Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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Disband NATO to follow the advice of the Great George Washington to avoid entangling alliances.

Getting involved with the Europoors has been a giant mistake and the founding father were wise to how retarded and warlike the people's of Europe were in fucking each other up for the lulz.

Make individual treaties or whatever with nations that have a high opinion of America like Taiwan and based Nippon and SK and Poland. The others can fuck off since they are leeches and not worth the trouble no more.
Coalition building is a large part of how we spread our hegemonic influences and keep the growing and increasingly bellicose world power rivals of ours in check. We can sneer at the notion of NATO existing or expanding all we want, but it does serve a purpose in countering the imperial ambitions of our immediate rivals.
 
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I have a vibe that, in a vacuum, the Germany military in Ukraine's situation would have capitulated by now. Am I a fuck other NATO members lol@krauts sperg or am I being realistic?
 
I mean to be fair Ukraine is handling this way better than most expected.
That's because it's not full on war, otherwise Russia would have no problems with fucking ukrainian forces up with missiles right where they were standing, yet they aim to make them surrender. Also, if I was attacking another country, I would destroy it's infrastructure - power plants, water supply, every source of fuel, most of the bridges, etc. They don't do this, since it will lead to countless dead civilians, especially during the cold winter nights.
 
When a shitty leader comes to power it is the people’s duty to remove that leader or face the consequences of their inactions.

There's some ethical middle ground between 'you're heroic because you got swiss cheesed in a doomed coup attempt, leaving your wife with children a widow*' and 'you're just as bad as Putin because you aren't stopping him so you deserve everything you get.'

* (there's no political solution for Russians to remove Putin, obviously.)

People have been killing each other over madmen with power since time immemorial and will continue to kill each other over this stuff 1000 years from now. It's not a carousel everybody wants to die on, some people are just trying to squeeze out a normal, somewhat happy life. Suggesting that means they "deserve" what they get is a bit of a just universe fallacy.

Sometimes things just suck and are unfair for normal people, there's nothing wrong with admitting that.
 
Every great enemy of the United States since World War II has been "new Hitler". New Hitler has become a secular devil that we must
all always unite to destroy.

If we don't fight him, the camps will be open again within weeks.

If we negotiate with him, it can only lead to a "Munich".

Any attempt to promote neutrality is "isolationism" which makes you Nazi Charles Lindburg and will lead to New Hitler marching into Paris

Since he is "New Hitler", any means of fighting in him are allowed. Law/morality/sense all go out the window because we are fighting New Hitler

The defeat of "new Hitler" is always followed by "denazification" where the defeated people are taught how to be good people.

We have all be united against "New Hitler" because anyone is isn't united in the effort is a freakin nazi.

It worked for Saddam Huessien then. It works for Putin now.
You would hope that after the Iraqi misadventure, more people wouldn't be willing to fall for the fucking "New Hitler" ruse. But I guess since Iraq is seen as the fault of the "bad" political party and the "good" political party is the one currently promoting the New Hitler narrative now, people are okay with it.
 
There's some ethical middle ground between 'you're heroic because you got swiss cheesed in a doomed coup attempt, leaving your wife with children a widow*' and 'you're just as bad as Putin because you aren't stopping him so you deserve everything you get.'

* (there's no political solution for Russians to remove Putin, obviously.)

People have been killing each other over madmen with power since time immemorial and will continue to kill each other over this stuff 1000 years from now. It's not a carousel everybody wants to die on, some people are just trying to squeeze out a normal, somewhat happy life. Suggesting that means they "deserve" what they get is a bit of a just universe fallacy.

Sometimes things just suck and are unfair for normal people, there's nothing wrong with admitting that.
Agreed. Russia is a Sham-democracy so its unfair to hold the citizens of Russia to the same standards we'd hold a free and liberated people to in being accountable for their government.
 
You would hope that after the Iraqi misadventure, more people wouldn't be willing to fall for the fucking "New Hitler" ruse. But I guess since Iraq is seen as the fault of the "bad" political party and the "good" political party is the one currently promoting the New Hitler narrative now, people are okay with it.
This is the zoomer war, zoomers where running about playing and picking their noses to pay to adult stuff.
 
If western countries had balls they would use that as a way to send troops to intervene without officially intervening.
FDR kind of did that before World War II, but you couldn't get away with it today. If one of them gets captured,
they will spill the beans to save themselves. In the case of the US, there are alot of guys that wouldn't trust the
US to keep its word if they did something like that. That even if the army didn't do anything directly, years later
some government agency would mess with you over benefits and such.
 
Finally some confirmation of a downed aircraft.
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Agreed. Russia is a Sham-democracy so its unfair to hold the citizens of Russia to the same standards we'd hold a free and liberated people to in being accountable for their government.
america and most so called democracy's are also shams, it's just that the peasantry is dumber than in shitholes like russia so they don't notice it.
 
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