Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Juan But Not Forgotten]

I've heard that Ukrainian government started their official Bitcoin and Etherium wallets. What's next, Twitch bits and accounts on OnlyFans?

 

[mudwogg]

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Really makes you think.

Western nations should send their Antifa and BLM-activists, rioters, protesters and the like to fight Russia. Unless they actually chicken.

 

[The 3rd Hooligan]

HE SPEAKS!

https://twitter.com/kevinrothrock/status/1497825223978192897?s=21

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His face looks bloated and in general not as healthy as usual. Maybe its just stress but fuck if it doesnt give confirmation bias to ones theorising Putin is one leg out and this is his last hurrah

 

[BradCarter]

Are your friends literal retards or is the internet in Russia filtered for all anti-goverment news like it supposedly is for those streamers I mentioned ?

How can they possibly not understand why this is happening considering recent history and the statements Putin and other's in the goverment have made over the years ?

Federal Service for Supervision of Communications, Information Technology and Mass Media - Wikipedia

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Educate yourself you raging retard. The Russian Internet is quite literally censored and filtered. The fucking website you are on right now is on the roskomnadzor blacklist

 

[AnonAutismo]

I mean to be fair Ukraine is handling this way better than most expected.

That’s the thing though, how badly did people expect Ukraine to handle an invasion that this is considered “better than expected”? IDK about the rest of the internet but everyone in this thread before the invasion kicked off broadly agreed that Russia would be sticking its dick in a beehive, which is what’s happened so far. We’re still only in the first week so there’s time for either a more definitive victory for either side or a stalemate.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Most people aren’t aware of the actual Nazis in Ukraine, let alone the tense relationship Ukraine and Russia have had for decades. To them, it’s “Russia invades Ukraine, this is just like Hitler invading Poland.” Most probably can’t answer why WWII happened after Hitler invaded Poland (because Austria and other nations got invaded way before Poland did, Poland just broke the pact set by the League of Nations).

You are correct that Poland being raped in the butthole by the Nazis didn't start World War 2 since the Soviets helped them.

World War 2 started because Britain and France had an agreement those those pollack niggers to help them out and declared war on Germany for fucking with the toilet plumbers otherwise who would clean the toilets of all those elite faggots in charge of Britain and France.

Britain and France had no issues with Germany taking about Czechia and Austria but oh no, don't beat up those funny looking halfwits that can't figure out to change a bulb on their own individually.

 

[The best and greatest]

No it isn't, because it drives them into the arms of China. Because of Russia's demographics, they will never pose half the threat that China does to US hegemony. Russia will be a third rate power for the foreseeable future, and if we want to stay on top of the pile we have to drive a wedge between them and China, giving Russia a pat on the head and some cookies every once in a while to keep them more on our side than on that of the Chinese. That means respecting their paranoia and letting them make oodles of money in Europe while the buffer states in Eastern Europe remain neutered and neutral. By sponsoring a coup on their doorstep and putting ever-deepening sanctions on them we have made them increasingly reliant on the only economically well-positioned nation with the wherewithal to ignore sanctions: the Chinese. It also makes us look incompetent to important Asian allies; we've egged Ukraine on and now don't have their back. What kind of message does that send to Japan, SK, or Taiwan, who all rely on our security umbrella and are crucial members of a balancing coalition against China?

This was never a reasonable expectation. China and Russia have implicit mutual interests they share in opposing the expansion of our global hegemony in place of their own. Any resources spent trying to court Russia under Putin would have been an utter waste for this reason alone. Putin does not have any interest in peaceful coexistence with us that doesn't involve Russian imperial ascendancy. They are and will (until they submit) always be our rivals and enemies.

I'm not saying we should necessarily war with Russia over this, but that's the beauty of a proxy war. We can drain Russia of its war assets and destabilize them at home all without having to risk any of our own forces so we can focus on the real threat in China. Also I doubt your forecast of how we end up looking at the end of this. The only reason this is happening to Ukraine is because they aren't in our sphere of military influence. I'd love to see our Asian allies contemplate breaking off now that they know what is put at risk when you don't have the NATO/USA military base insurance policy. If you ask me NATO needs a rebranding and an expansion of its mission statement. Pivoting out of China entirely and into India and other nations more amenable to our interests should also be a paramount policy goal in general imo.

 

[Particle Bored]

If you see lefties crying over muh ukes, point to Yemen and tell them they only care about a foreign authoritarian regime's military aggression when the victims are white.

 

[Shrek]

That’s the thing though, how badly did people expect Ukraine to handle an invasion that this is considered “better than expected”? IDK about the rest of the internet but everyone in this thread before the invasion kicked off broadly agreed that Russia would be sticking its dick in a beehive, which is what’s happened so far. We’re still only in the first week so there’s time for either a more definitive victory for either side or a stalemate.

I suppose I mean better than I expected from outside this forum compared to inside. I think a lot of people here had the insight to realized Putin may have gotten a bit cocky but the mainstream narrative for the past few months is poor baby Ukraine will immediately die as a way to get clicks.
I also may be completely uncompreheding your message because, fascinatingly enough, I am drunk off my ass on vodka.

 

[Hackallier]

More footage of the Russian soldiers in Kharkiv.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

There's a Russian-aligned faction that has this one old sniper dude who uses photosynthesis so he doesn't need to eat anything. It's really wild.

A Russian that speaks Spanish. In Russia.

 

[Mr Bunny]

We really don't know how anyone is doing. Russia seems to be winning on two fronts North and South, in the East they seem to be stuck?

Are they stuck or are they just holding and making small advances when they can and letting the Southern front close in and flank then fully push west, and link with the North.

 

[Breadbassket]

Zelensky has announced the formation of a new unit meant for foreign volunteers who want to take part in repelling Russian aggression.

 

[Disheveled Human]

You are correct that Poland being raped in the butthole by the Nazis didn't start World War 2 since the Soviets helped them.

World War 2 started because Britain and France had an agreement those those pollack niggers to help them out and declared war on Germany for fucking with the toilet plumbers otherwise who would clean the toilets of all those elite faggots in charge of Britain and France.

Britain and France had no issues with Germany taking about Czechia and Austria but oh no, don't beat up those funny looking halfwits that can't figure out to change a bulb on their own individually.

Poland has been Europes kicking can for over 100 years they had to deal with both the nazi and commies. Poland hates everyone around them to some degree. Probably the most unfortunately placed country in Europe in recent times

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

That’s the thing though, how badly did people expect Ukraine to handle an invasion that this is considered “better than expected”? IDK about the rest of the internet but everyone in this thread before the invasion kicked off broadly agreed that Russia would be sticking its dick in a beehive, which is what’s happened so far. We’re still only in the first week so there’s time for either a more definitive victory for either side or a stalemate.

We haven't even seen major gains in central or western Ukraine yet except going for Kyiv from the north, trying to occupy eastern Ukraine is poking the beehive but occupying central and western Ukraine is where they put it's dick into it.

World War 2 started because Britain and France had an agreement those those pollack niggers to help them out and declared war on Germany for fucking with the toilet plumbers otherwise who would clean the toilets of all those elite faggots in charge of Britain and France.

Britain and France had no issues with Germany taking about Czechia and Austria but oh no, don't beat up those funny looking halfwits that can't figure out to change a bulb on their own individually.

Also they basically abandoned Poland and didn't attack Germany, it's called the phoney war for a reason.

 

[MrJokerRager]

This was never a reasonable expectation. China and Russia have implicit mutual interests they share in opposing the expansion of our global hegemony in place of their own. Any resources spent trying to court Russia under Putin would have been an utter waste for this reason alone. Putin does not have any interest in peaceful coexistence with us that doesn't involve Russian imperial ascendancy. They are and will (until they submit) always be our rivals and enemies.

I'm not saying we should necessarily war with Russia over this, but that's the beauty of a proxy war. We can drain Russia of its war assets and destabilize them at home all without having to risk any of our own forces so we can focus on the real threat in China. Also I doubt your forecast of how we end up looking at the end of this. The only reason this is happening to Ukraine is because they aren't in our sphere of influence. I'd love to see our Asian allies contemplate breaking off now that they know what is put at risk when you don't have the NATO/USA military base insurance policy. If you ask me NATO needs a rebranding and an expansion of its mission statement. Pivoting out of China entirely and into India and other nations more amenable to our interests should also be a paramount policy goal in general imo.

Disband NATO to follow the advice of the Great George Washington to avoid entangling alliances.

Getting involved with the Europoors has been a giant mistake and the founding father were wise to how retarded and warlike the people's of Europe were in fucking each other up for the lulz.

Make individual treaties or whatever with nations that have a high opinion of America like Taiwan and based Nippon and SK and Poland. The others can fuck off since they are leeches and not worth the trouble no more.

 

[Weeby Catto]

I'm trying to understand this line of reasoning. Specifically the bolded part.

Why would NATO not impose sanctions for this, even when Putin achieves his objectives early and Ukrainians all capitulate on day 1? It never stopped them before, and I don't see how a few days difference in making Zelensky kneel will change the response the West will have to this.

Fast invasion means it most likely wont turn into a bloodbath, country still intact. The plan was always installing a new puppet leader and Ukraine willingly accepts Russia's alliance. Easy invasion like Crimea. Then Zelinksy can be shoved somewhere and be accused of treason etc.

Then those sanctions will seem very ridiculous and won't be done. Don't forget that initially some countries doesn't even want to sanction him. Italy still wants Russians to buy Guccis. But when things get worse, it becomes very ugly for Nato not to impose these sanctions, because even their citizens are protesting for against Russia.

If the enemy invade your neighbor's house at night and everything is finished by morning, you will be hard pressed to do anything, even if your neighbor has become a totally new family. But if there is brutal fighting across a week, you'd be hard pressed not to take any actions to help your neighbor.

 

[BradCarter]

We really don't know how anyone is doing. Russia seems to be winning on two fronts North and South, in the East they seem to be stuck?

Are they stuck or are they just holding and making small advances when they can and letting the Southern front close in and flank then fully push west, and link with the North.

There was talk earlier about a ceasefire at Chernobyl because of a cracked containment and radiation kicked up from explosives. Dunno if it was ever confirmed

 

[Disheveled Human]

Zelensky has announced the formation of a new unit meant for foreign volunteers who want to take part in repelling Russian aggression.
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That is one way to sneak NATO troops in as a loop hole lol.

 

[God of Nothing]

A Russian that speaks Spanish. In Russia.

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