Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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So given all the videos showing Tigrs, I'm guessing that the BRDM-2 has been fully withdrawn from frontline Russian service? Because that was their go-to light armored car and support vehicle for most of the Cold War.
 
That's because it's not full on war, otherwise Russia would have no problems with fucking ukrainian forces up with missiles right where they were standing, yet they aim to make them surrender. Also, if I was attacking another country, I would destroy it's infrastructure - power plants, water supply, every source of fuel, most of the bridges, etc. They don't do this, since it will lead to countless dead civilians, especially during the cold winter nights.
This is the same cope Americans use when the subject of Vietnam or Afghanistan comes up.
 
america and most so called democracy's are also shams, it's just that the peasantry is dumber than in shitholes like russia so they don't notice it.
American Government provides more then the Russian Government does when it comes to its people but keep thinking that its all the same.
 
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Aren't soldiers not allowed to carry cellphones

Its sports hooliganism in another form. Where were these people when US-backed Saudi Arabia began attacking Yemen.
yeah but when the Bears beat the Boars in the big sport game 5000 men wont be dead or wounded.

I know getting mad online is stupid but seeing people i had some respect for start acting like wannabe special agents , trying to figure where troops are and funding a military through paypal , it kills alot of hope i had for the world.
 
What's with this site's pro-ukrainian bias?
It's like 50/50 in this thread tbh. I support Ukraine because I live in a NATO country so why cheer on someone I would have to fight at some point down the line. Better to watch them stumble and eat maximized losses in this exchange. Its really nothing personal outside of that.
 
This was never a reasonable expectation. China and Russia have implicit mutual interests they share in opposing the expansion of our global hegemony in place of their own. Any resources spent trying to court Russia under Putin would have been an utter waste for this reason alone. Putin does not have any interest in peaceful coexistence with us that doesn't involve Russian imperial ascendancy. They are and will (until they submit) always be our rivals and enemies.
This is disproven by the sino-soviet split. It's completely possible to play either country against the other, and we did it when Russia was in a much stronger position. They have plenty of conflicting interests in central and northeast Asia. You just need a competent foreign policy establishment, and the realist architects of containment are all either dead or sidelined in academia at this point while the West Wing larpers run the show.
The only reason this is happening to Ukraine is because they aren't in our sphere of military influence.
This is a non-point. They aren't in our military sphere on interest because they aren't a vital strategic interest. No amount of paperwork and promises will change this; it takes a lot of political capital to wage war against a power like Russia, a conflict which would see much higher casualties than even Iraq. The Russians have been playing nice in Ukraine because they have the overwhelming advantage and can choose to do so. If they didn't, they could make Kiev look like Grozny. Any US leadership would have to have enormous support in order to carry this out; Putin specifically waited until we had a weak president in a precarious political position to invade because he knew that Biden wouldn't waste scarce political capital on defending territory which just isn't vital to us. If we had brought them into our military sphere of influence it would just make us look like unreliable flakes because it would still be political suicide to intervene. We will got to war in the Gulf for oil, or in Asia to contain China, or in Western Europe to maintain Nato. We're not going to war for the Ukraine unless Putin makes a massive PR blunder.
 
They should work. Around six of them can be dropped onto a vehicle near a building two stories or higher. I doubt they'd be effective against the heavier tanks though.

Now that I think of it, civies can just drop molotovs onto unsuspecting Russians below. Expect to see some nasty vidyas
They are no longer civies, then and can be killed without impunity.
 
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