Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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FightenGnome said:
You mean back when Russia made an agreement with the West not to expand NATO? Russia's fault for trying to do what's best for the people living in those regions and trusting the West!
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Which agreement? There was never any damn agreement about NATO not expanding east. It is desinformation spread by fools and those who lick Putins boots.
 
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garum expert said:
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Fcret said:
There was never an 'agreement' on this. All the west said was that NATO expansion was not on the agenda after the end of the Cold War. Russians invented this idea that promises were made.
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"We didn't actually mean it when we said we wouldn't encircle you with your former satellites so you can't be upset about it."
It was the peak of post-Cold War arrogance to think the world's #2 military would tolerate having hostile foreign allies on its direct border with missiles aiming at it. Look how close they put their country to our military bases.
 
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The Foldless Brain said:
"We didn't actually mean it when we said we wouldn't encircle you with your former satellites so you can't be upset about it."
It was the peak of post-Cold War arrogance to think the world's #2 military would tolerate having hostile foreign allies on its direct border with missiles aiming at it. Look how close they put their country to our military bases.
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We never said we wouldn't. We said we didn't have any plans to.

Here's a question - why didn't Russia spend the intervening 30 years cultivating relationships with their neighbors that kept them out of NATO and the EU?
 
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SneedEyeMitch said:
Ireland, after not long getting it's Republic even took a path of neutrality when WW2 was happening and both factions drew up plans to invade it. Britain even tried offering them Northern Ireland and they still didn't bite and take a side.
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Ireland should have got the Dresden treatment. Do it again, Bomber Harris.
 
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Is this is true it's a real fucking low.

Haven't bothered moralising the conflict or picking a side cos no need to add my hot take to the 990 pages of hot takes we have here but pretending to be an ambulance crew is something I feel we can all agree is a shit move.

Not surprised it would be the Chechens though.
 
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Foltest said:
Even if Putin win the war, they will lost the peace.
Their economy will take a major hit and the Russian state is now a pariah in Europe. Even shit countries as Germany are waking up to this.
The EU is more united now (heck, even Hungary is now against Putin) and Russia will not be trusted anymore.
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Now this is a take I want to see more of in this thread. What are the results from this. I want to agree with you, but I don't know if the Russians will be worse off. This will set off a Cold War 2 that the West will surely lose, if not on a popularity level, than on a practical level. Up until this occurred, Western governments were more focused with making war on their own people over other nations. I think it would be too late to turn the ship around now from "All heterosexual White men must be second class citizens" to "Heterosexual White men, save us!"

The end of the American Empire might happen sooner than the end of an Antagonistic Russia though it does depend on what Putin does and more importantly what his successor does.
 
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Elbereth said:
Ok, what right Russia has to invade and kill people over policy of independent country?

Take your meds.
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Because it’s in their self interest to keep American influence outside their sphere of influence to ensure their national security is intact. And on a basic level they have the right because might makes right, it always has and always will. It’s just the way of the world and you’re too retarded and delusional to understand that and want to live in a fairytale world where everybody should get along. It’s just not reality, it never has been and it never will.
 
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