Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[mr.moon1488]

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Are there even mechanisms to remove a security council member?

I doubt it, but these people don't play by their own rules.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

https://twitter.com/flightradar24/status/1497953549900447750

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Well that does it, nuke Russia now, that's a fucking war crime.

 

[Get Fisted]

I still think it's just weird Russia wanted to expand its borders/slap Ukraine in the face enough to be neutral for it to not thnk of joining Nato a third time (I could had sworn Ukraine tried to join something on the Obama period and Russia gave it a slap to the face) only for Russia to do a quick 180 and nuke away all the work it did if its true (and immediately make everyone come to rape Russia's ass for daring to firing off nukes or the world would still leave Russia alone so it won't be dragged under? It's still not their problem, but not sure how the world would react if Russia just simply fire them at Ukraine and nowwhere else.)

I believe the colden ones were really, really fucking good at something called scorched earth. If you won't give me your ball, I'll burn down your fucking house and everyone inside of it, would be the same if someone wanted Russia's ball, I'd assume. I'm just running on assumptions.

 

[Quixotic Man]

People on Twitter either really want full on war between NATO countries and Russia or don't understand what they are talking about.
I have my suspicions.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

The Russians respect Ukraine, not like the Americans who "shock and awe" the fuck out of a country and terrorize the citizens, destroy all civil infrastructure before allowing their armor to move one inch.

 

[ConspicuousArdiunoDue]

Globohomo bots in full gear today
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Spoiler: more

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Imagine if nuclear war started because someone really high up in the US decision making was so autistic about this plane that he decides to get Joe Biden, while he's off his dementia meds, to spike the nuclear football.

 

[Terra Pax]

No.. it doesn't. What I said was "There wasn't any chatter on here on how the lab locations and the places Russia attacked first lined up" because that's interesting to me if true.

And as someone said those labs would have a procedure to DFE so they would have to be one of the places first hit to get anything you could before that process was complete. I didn't think that had to be explained. That doesn't mean it was a "driving factor" for the attack. I don't even think that's a plausible inference to make. It would be like saying the Russians invaded Ukraine to take over Chernobyl because it was one of the first places attacked. That's a silly argument and nobody would make it and nobody has. You take over Chernobyl first because it's an important location. Same with any hypothetical labs. That's not the reason you invade another country.

I can't tell if you honestly got this from what I said or if you're trying to win internet points.

I'm going to ignore the idea that you think showing me a public press release of a study the lab released itself is proof that they wouldn't or couldn't be doing anything else potentially illegal pr sinister. Because even if they aren't and everything is kosher you can't be so dumb as to think if anybody was doing something illicit they would release it for public knowledge.

Yeah obviously, I may have misinterpreted your argument initially.

If they do have dangerous samples of things on hand then, I agree, it would make sense for them to be secured very quickly.

It is what it is. I just don't think that the US is using this programme to develop biological weapons for offensive capabilities in Ukraine and if they were I don't think that the Russian government would keep it a secret to use in some potential future secret dealing with the United States.

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Now lets be clear all of the labs listed in the reports are real and the funding documents are also legit.

Publicly these are medical laboratories which conduct research on pressing public health issues like Covid 19 testing, childhood immunisation etc.

All perfectly above board, the US government pumping money into the Ukrainian public health system is just a sign of their well known altruism... except why the fuck is the United States Department of Defense giving out these grants and why the holy fuck is the DoD issuing these grants on condition of transfer of custody and ownership of IP?

As to why Putin isn't calling them out? Well he has. When the Russians state publicly that they view Ukraine's developing military capabilities as an existential threat to their existence they are obviously not referring to the conventional armed forces in that country. As to why he hasn't called them on it explicitly? Probably 2 reasons. First what would be the point? He'd be painted as a crazy liar by the western media. A Q-anon tier lolcow. Second admitting that he'd allowed WMD research to go on right next to the motherland for years and did fuck all to stop it makes him look weak to his own people.

I'm not claiming that this was the only reason for the invasion but it certainly was a reason.

If the Ukrainians crack and decide to do a deal with the bear you can expect to see a spergout to end all spergouts from the burgers. There is no expectation that the Ukrainians can even slow the Russians down but the there is an expectation that they will perform their designated role of dying in large numbers for a western audience.

The DoD is involved because it's being done under the auspices of the Biological Threat Reduction Programme which is part of some larger DoD initiative called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency. Not to mention that the dates on those documents go back to 2010, before Euromaiden, and the ousting of the pro-Russian government.

Also, I'm sure that "transfer of custody" just means when the project was completed who it was handed over to. Similar terms get used at work when working with contractors as to who regarding "transfer of ownership" and similar terminology. The document is only talking about buildings and conceptual designs of buildings.

I don't think that Putin really cares about being called a liar by western media - especially if it's true.

 

[BradCarter]

Not that you idiot, the fact that conditions have been dropped in negotiations . Think putin realised he bit off more than he can chew

..... that's a large leap. There's a dozen reasons to drop conditions to just meet and talk. When he starts offering white peace we can start making conclusions.

 

[Elämällä on väliä]

Are there even mechanisms to remove a security council member?

Yes - and their are pretty easy.

UN countries are just didn't recognize government of one country and recognize another government as legal. That happened in 1971 with China (before 1971 Taiwan have a seat, after 1971 commies take it).

 

[Potatoherder]

HOLD THE PHONE! She might not be completely fucked
https://twitter.com/AntonovCompany/status/1497967106209595401?cxt=HHwWkoC-rbDJ7MkpAAAA
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There is a second incomplete airframe. They had always planned to finish it but couldn't secure the finances. So they have a good chance to repair her if she isn't too bad.

 

[Matt Damon]

I've been watching this shit show since day -10 at least. Every day I wake up in burger land, I check the net for the news if Ukrainian flag is still flying over Kyiv.

I've been all around social media watching results/fakes and this is my mentat analysis. The number of confirmed Russian corpses and abandoned Soviet mobiles is growing in geometric progression. At this point it's impossible to repost it all even working full time.

pedoRussia dick riders bros ... surrender now and tell us that you have always been Ukrainian or "brother nation" or whatever. Even oligharch children have been posting shit against Russia (which is why they are smarter than you)

Mark this post. In a month or two time the narrative will change how Russia never supported Putin for 20 years and welcome soldiers of NATO to deliver scraps of food. You'll see endless parade of russian sows and their mutilated pupa tugging on heartstrings.

Okay, you don't like Russians. You've made that abundantly clear for many, many days now.

We get it.

 

[Invoke-Mimikatz]

Qtards have taken page 1019 and installed idiot bio labs chatter. Expect increased levels of idioticy going forwards

 

[FatalTater]

While feeding the birds this morning I have formed a theory about the black people stuck in Ukraine, reportedly just because they are black and people just want to make trouble for them.

Africans say they are facing racial discrimination in Ukraine

Africans in Ukraine allege that they are facing racial discrimination from Ukraine's security agencies | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

Most of America seems to be mad at Russia and cheering on Ukraine.
This has potential to unify everyone.
Since the dust is settling from the St Floyd of Fentanyl riots, there needs to be something else to divide black and white.
Voila! This story!
Or I guess Ukrainians could be racist af and picking on people that look different. I have no idea and don't trust any media that immediately runs with racism as the cause of any damn thing without more info.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Joined: Feb 20, 2022

Huh

If you haven't spent your life here you're undermenshen.
Probably never even jerked it to tentacle porn

 

[borsabil]

Not that you idiot, the fact that conditions have been dropped in negotiations . Think putin realised he bit off more than he can chew

How do we know the Russians put conditions on the previous offer? Because the Ukrainians said so. How do we know that the Russians have dropped the pre-conditions for these talks? Because the Ukrainians said so. How do we know that Russia. after all of 3 whole days in the field, is now trapped in a military quagmire? Because the Ukrainians said so.

The Ukrainians have been consistently lying their arses off through the whole war. They lie about literally everything. I have no problems with this, the poor fucks are fighting a vastly superior opponent, they really don't have a choice. But as a non exceptional individual I'm not dumb enough to accept everything they claim at face value. In fact given their record so far I assume the complete opposite of whatever they're stating the western media and I think I've been right every single time so far.

 

[Mr Bunny]

So? NATO didn't expand by forcing countries to join, like Russia is doing. Countries join NATO and NATO expansion is just what happens boarder wise.
I don't care that NATO expanded, I care about why is everyone surprise that NATO expanded. It makes sense to me that post-soviet countries would like to join a defensive alliance to defend against their past occupiers.

Intelligence is like an underwear. It is important that you have it, but not necessary that you show it off.

 

[дядя Боря]

Well that does it, nuke Russia now, that's a fucking war crime.

Mriya was destroyed the very first night of the attack. That information and photos were not made public due to sensitive nature of the situation on the ground when shit was up in the air if Ukrainians could hold off. A lot of photos were held back to black out feedback to russia.

At this point it's downhill/ beginning of freefall for Russia, with photos release telling you that it doesn't matter anymore.

The real battlefield are Russians backhome trying to withdraw whatever cash they can and freely protesting because there is just too many of them to pack into police buses.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

There is a second incomplete airframe. They had always planned to finish it but couldn't secure the finances. So they have a good chance to repair her if she isn't too bad.

I really hope they can, and not just because of aviation sperging. Those super heavy antonovs are really great for humanitarian work during natural disasters.

 

[Getting tard comed]

The DoD is involved because it's being done under the auspices of the Biological Threat Reduction Programme which is part of some larger DoD initiative called the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

I know this one! This is like nuclear detterents right?

 

[Dave_Ph]

Qtards have taken page 1019 and installed idiot bio labs chatter. Expect increased levels of idioticy going forwards

I do want an update from them on the UN/NWO troops who seized control of Canada last week