Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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Russia already commited war crimes in Ukraine. Bombing a children hospital in Kiev, shooting at schools, attacking residental districts.

Yes, pretty small numbers of casaulties - because Russian is weak and didn't have big troops in Ukraine.
Well, yes. But as some of you already pointed earlier in the thread, they didn’t go full Terror mode (yet).
The situation is bad but it could be horribly worse.
 
Russia kills Independent Journalists though. The west doesn't.
Not that this makes it any better, it doesn't.

But pretty much all Journalists who've been murdered in Russia get killed by the thugs of a local politician after trying to expose local corruption/criminal activity, it's rare for the FSB to kill people. Putin would rather throw a dissident into a legal nightmare of prison and court dates that is A LOT less exciting for Western journalists to write about.

Oh, and a number of American and Western journalists have died under questionable circumstances.
 
Per Ukrainian Twitter:
18:00 - Kharkiv has surrendered, in Russian hands.
19:00 - Kharkiv holding, mayor says they'll never give up.
20:00 - Kharkiv soldiers destroy 75,000 Russian units, including 86,000 tanks. Asking for donations and NATO support.
21:00 - 17:00 - Air raid sirens in the city.
18:00 - Kharkiv has surrendered, in Russian hands.

Per Ukrainian Twitter:

15:00 - Explosion in Lviv
15:04 - Explosion in Kyiv
15:08 - Explosion in Kharkiv
15:10 - Explosion in whatever-iv
16:00 - Ukraine gov't begs for foreign volunteers
16:30 - Ukraine gov't says they'll "fight to the end" or some variation of that
17:00 - 3,500 Russian troops dead, 500,000 planes shot down
18:00 - Ukraine gov't begs for foreign volunteers
19:00 - Former boxer joins the fight
20:00 - OnlyFans model "joins" the fight
21:00 - 50000 Russians captured. Image shows 3 of them
22:00 - Explosion in Mariupol
23:00 - Explosion in Melitopol
 
Per Ukrainian Twitter:

15:00 - Explosion in Lviv
15:04 - Explosion in Kyiv
15:08 - Explosion in Kharkiv
15:10 - Explosion in whatever-iv
16:00 - Ukraine gov't begs for foreign volunteers
16:30 - Ukraine gov't says they'll "fight to the end" or some variation of that
17:00 - 3,500 Russian troops dead, 500,000 planes shot down
18:00 - Ukraine gov't begs for foreign volunteers
19:00 - Former boxer joins the fight
20:00 - OnlyFans model "joins" the fight
21:00 - 50000 Russians captured. Image shows 3 of them
22:00 - Explosion in Mariupol
23:00 - Explosion in Melitopol
24:00 - Night sets in.
 
Honestly, I would not dislike Russia if he only put eastern Ukraine under his control, but at this point he's going for the whole pie, or at least taking Kyiv.
Russia doesn't want to annex Ukraine, at least Putler doesn't. He wants to take out the government, install a new one and leave, this includes the current moves they are making to encircle Ukrainian cities and the Ukrainian formations on the Donbas contact line so that they can be used to keep order when a new government is installed, one which Putin is hoping the Ukrainians can live with.
 
I swear Russia shills really thinks this like EU 4 or Hearts of Iron. Hurr Durr, my division just entered this province/city unopposed. That means it's mine guys. Change the color on the map!

That is not how this works. Isolating enemy strong points may have worked with Island Hopping in the Pacific war, but it does not work in a pure land war. Soldiers need to eat. Their equipment needs fuel. They need ammunition. You can't just leave entire brigades of enemy soldiers behind your line of advance because it's too hard to get them out. Those troops don't just stay in place. They can attack your supply lines. Cut you off, and then what? You are alone in the wheat field and it does not matter if the map says you own that particular region if farmer Stanislav and his buddies are shooting at you
 
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