Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Freya]

Ladies, they're both run by corrupt kleptocrat sacks of shit.

I agree

 

[draggs]

Maybe the phrasing is wrong. More accelerating or facilitating the rise and dominance of China by undermining itself and global institutions the west controls.

How? This kind of cope is so , anything and everything *somehow* facilitates the rise of China or a multipolar world or some other fantasy cope.

 

[MrJokerRager]

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France had no time for fucking around with camel jockeys when they busy tard wrangling niggers in Niger.

 

[AnaphylacticShock]

Belarus' job will be simple, block off all supplies from the western border. At which point it becomes a much worse kind of war of attrition for Ukraine, one where supplies on their side become finite and all Russia has to do is dig in and wait.

Can they get supplies through Hungary and Romania?

 

[Leslie Nielsen]

It's funny how every happenings thread, regardless of topic, eventually works its way back to Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the fact that the ATF should be abolished.

Fuck the ATF, repeal the NFA, repeal the Hughes amendment. I should be able to own machine guns and warships.

 

[Jump]

I have a criminal record. They would never take me

I think its a safe bet that Ukraine is not doing background checks at this time.

 

[LaxerBRO]

If you're going to defend the nuking of Japan, you might have a better time with this anecdote: in preparation for the invasion of mainland Japan, the US government printed up so many Purple Heart medals that we are still issuing them to this day, and that was only a fraction of what they expected to need for the long haul.

I don't defend the atomic attack on Japan but am putting it in context. The truth is that Japan were already putting out offers of conditional surrender in an attempt to protect their emperor, who was considered a minor deity. Between the offers of surrender and the Russians, I believe that the atomic bombings were unnecessary but it wouldn't have been much worse firebombing them.

 

[Kane Lives]

There are almost no Ukranian troops in this area so it wont be all that challenging for anyone attacking

The problem is that its the Belarussian army....I dont put much faith in their ability to do anything but beat up protestors and its close enough to poland you may see clandestine NATO support so i dont think it will get far but hey, maybe they will pull it off

Wait really? The Ukies left their western oblasts wide open? Well then.

I mean, I suppose in a do-or-die it's understandable.

That said, it's also western Ukraine. If any sort of resistance or guerilla action starts, it's here. I don't think the Belarussian gonna have it easy.

 

[The Ugly One]

Ok grandpa. Let me explain how inflation works. At that time minimum wage was $4.85/hr. Meaning the costs of goods in purchasing power from earnings were pretty much the same.

You may now go back to slowly masturbating about the tragic loss of pets.com, America Online, and the General Motors Saturn division.

People were still getting married and having kids in the 1990s. Cities feel like open graves to me now.

People forget the militia paranoia that the feds were stoking. Ruby Ridge and Waco were very 1990s phenomena.

 

[Gehenna]

We will see how it goes for them

The sooner we wrap this up the better.

The longer this goes on the higher the risk of Nuclear war, so in that regards I hope they are successful

I'm inclined to agree, but would note that this is setting up for a -long- siege. Not a shut it down quickly, but instead "Lock the border, surround the major cities, then let them starve over weeks, maybe months".

Really lowers Russian casualties, but makes it a long goal. It stands more in the way of immediate usage for a negotiating tactic since at that point death is inevitable for the Ukrainians, and the leaders saying 'we won't stop!" are literally sentencing their civilians to death in gruesome ways.

 

[Gay_nig_from_outer_space]

Speaking of Putin, I wonder what made him return as president.

He was president during Dunya then retired I guess and some stock looking Russian became president and then all of sudden, he returned back and has been pissed off ever since.

Dimitri Medvedev was his stooge/stop gap because of constitutional limits on term limits. Basically Putler engineered it in such a way that Medvedev ran the show nominally, he changed the constitution to flip the powers of President and Prime Minister and then he came back as President and continued where he left off.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

Don't forget: jobs were being shipped overseas by the tens of thousand every month. Dozens of plants were closing each month. Entire towns on the West Coast had become poverty stricken due to the collapse of the timber industry.

There was fighting in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe.

2000 wasn't all it was cracked up to be if you were trying to survive with a family.

I said in my previous comment that things were fucked up even then. My point is that it’s 100x worse now with no way back. Yeah, it wasn’t perfect, but I’d still rather be back there now.

 

[Fcret]

It's funny how every happenings thread, regardless of topic, eventually works its way back to Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the fact that the ATF should be abolished.

I wouldn't find most pro-Russia people so insufferable if they weren't trying to connect geopolitical happenings to some retarded domestic culture war shit.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

I'm inclined to agree, but would note that this is setting up for a -long- siege. Not a shut it down quickly, but instead "Lock the border, surround the major cities, then let them starve over weeks, maybe months".

Really lowers Russian casualties, but makes it a long goal. It stands more in the way of immediate usage for a negotiating tactic since at that point death is inevitable for the Ukrainians, and the leaders saying 'we won't stop!" are literally sentencing their civilians to death in gruesome ways.

Surprised to see you outside the Biden thread. Just thought I’d mention it.

 

[Dave_Ph]

I really don't understand the significance put on the use of fairly basic atomic weapons in Japan. If you are horrified by the use of atomic weapons then I recommend you look up the US firebombing of the home island. Just as many casualties but burning to death, dying in a ditch from burn injuries, or asphyxiating due to a firestorm is better than dying by a nuclear blast wave. I am not saying it was better but just putting things into perspective. WWII was horrific by modern war standards in terms of loss of civilian life and humanity.

And by "modern war standards" you mean being a pussy and losing

 

[Bananadana]

The a-bombs caused survivors to develop cancer years afterwards.

What is it with the US Army and stuff that silently gives everyone, including their own soldiers, cancer or other permanent and possibly deadly diseases ?
A-Bombs, The chemical conundrum dropped on vietnam, Depleted Uranium, burn pits.
Its like "kills shit even when not used on an enemy combatant" is a requirement that is met more often than its not.

Belarus' job will be simple, block off all supplies from the western border. At which point it becomes a much worse kind of war of attrition for Ukraine, one where supplies on their side become finite and all Russia has to do is dig in and wait.

I can already see them firing at a Polish supply truck and triggering article 5 on accident.

 

[HumanHive]

Forgot the most important: be a winner.

True, but at the same time you can get arrested by your own side and put on trial - so it isn’t completely “I win so I make the rules”. Just War and international law keep conflicts organized. That’s what is important. Organized wars are easier to win.

 

[Gehenna]

Can they get supplies through Hungary and Romania?

More than enough Belarussian troops to lock down the whole western border, not just the border with the Poles. And since there is only one major city in the way it would be pretty hard to really... stop. At worst it becomes a slow timer of an increasingly shrinking portal for supplies.

 

[Harvey sheckelburg]

I'm inclined to agree, but would note that this is setting up for a -long- siege. Not a shut it down quickly, but instead "Lock the border, surround the major cities, then let them starve over weeks, maybe months".

I can already imagine people calling for a Kiev airlift to drop supplies to the city.

 

[BradCarter]

It's funny how every happenings thread, regardless of topic, eventually works its way back to Waco, Ruby Ridge, and the fact that the ATF should be abolished.

So? That's basically the content of my nightly prayers.