Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Sammich said:
The Swift cutting them off puts it in pretty uncharted terrority. I think the norks are, but i can't think of any other country that is.
Russia has A LOT of oil/nat gas.. That will keep them from really suffering I think. It's gonna suck for a bit, but I don't think it's much worse than what's happened to them in the past with sanctions and stuff. Might push them towards an alliance with china/india though, and that is more troublesome for the united states/the west that it is for them.

Now let me be clear, i am some random braindead faggot on the internet with zero background in any of this, but it's just my take.
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I mean the difficulty with this is a lot of Europe bought a fuck ton of Russians natural resources, I am sure countries like China and India will purchase more oil and shit at a cheaper rate but there hits a point of how much can you overstock purchase. Unless China and India are willing to Purchase the difference they are gonna be short on how much they can move.
 
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Gay_nig_from_outer_space said:
You mean these VDV? Hohol bros I thought we killed all 6 million VDV and retook the airport!

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And random unsourced tweets counter nothing I said. Russia is becoming a laughingstock and Ukraine is damaging them enough to where we see Ukrainian civilians taking Russian soldiers hostage.
 
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Penis Drager said:
You even notice how Ukraine is the X-Men and Russia is the government?
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Or how Russia is like Sparta, an austere society that emphasizes tough and warrior virtues; while the United States is Athens, a mercantile oriented society that insists on spreading its form of democratic government?

Oh wait I'm actually making a cultured reference that aren't Disney Corporation owned properties.

So Putin is like Team Rocket, and Ukraine is like Ash's Picachu because they are trying to steal it. So Zalinsky is Ash and NATO is Brock, and I think my brain just collapsed on itself.
 
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Radical Cadre said:
They're going to bluff Zelenskyy into being seen as a competent leader/folk hero and Ukraine will be stuck with an incompetent moron at the helm for another term.
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This dude is gonna be dead in a month or less. The fact he chose to go down with the ship when he had an out is badass. Compare this to Afghanistans leader after the US dipped the fuck out.
 
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Duke Nukem said:
I don't object to it personally, I just find it foolishly ironic that a person of the Slavic races would idolize a regime that believed them to be racially inferior and in fact favored their extermination.

Russian neo-Nazis exist too, and they're even more ludicrous because their country lost over 20 million people to the real Nazis.

But seriously I understand the goal is to troll the vodka monkeys, I've seen Ukrainian troops drawing Nazi symbolism on their helmets to do this.
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It is an oversimplification, if not outright wrong, to assume that Hitler wanted to exterminate the Slavs. You're basically parroting wartime propaganda. Hitler abhorred what he often called the 'Judeo-Bolshevik Menace,' but his criticism of the Slavs tended to be fairly limited. He may have had a certain level of disdain for them as foreigners, and especially getting mad about Slavic encroachment on Germans, for example abhorring what he termed the Czechification of the Austrian Empire, but I do not think the level you are talking about is accurate. There is plenty of stuff floating around online to corroborate what you say, but I think it is mostly either wartime or post-war disinfo.

Much of Eastern Europe was proverbially stuck between a rock and a hard place, ie between the German Reich and the Soviet Union. For many in Eastern Europe, Hitler was the lesser of two evils. There were TONS of Eastern Europeans who volunteered to fight alongside the Germans. Many joined volunteer units of the SS, for example the Latvian Legion, or the 1st Galician from Ukraine. Indeed, even a lot of Russians joined the Germans, not seeing the Judeo-Bolshevists in charge of the USSR as representative of Russia, in a ~125,000-strong unit called the Russian Liberation Army, or the Vlasov Army. There was even an entity called the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, which fought alongside the Germans, and then carried on fighting the Soviets until 1956; the modern Ukrainian Right Sector flag is based on the UIA flag. There was a similar guerrilla war in the Baltic states that also lasted until 1956; they are known as the Forest Brothers, for their forest-based insurgency.

It is not a part of my family, but I happen to know like five different people who have at least one Eastern Euro grandparent who fought for the SS, and then fled to the West to avoid Stalin's persecution after the war was lost.

I think it is most reasonable to look at Eastern Euro "Nazism" or "neo-Nazism" as an expression of anti-Soviet politics/values, and a desire from nationalists for national autonomy/sovereignty, rather than being in favour of Soviet propaganda stating that Hitler wanted to exterminate all Soviet citizens. Stalin did a much better job exterminating Eastern Europeans than Hitler ever did.
 
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