Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Lysenko]

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As far as I'm concerned, Putin drove Russia to a national suicide the moment he attacked Ukraine.

The sanctions are something the Russian economy can never recover from in its current state. The living standard of the average person will fall drastically, he can no longer travel abroad, he can no longer purchase the goods he used and all his savings will vanish. There will be no real economic development in Russia anymore. Once the ability of the government to trade and gain international currency dries up, inflation will spike up. We might see something very similar happening to Russia as what happened to Venezuela. The difference is that Venezuela never had any delusions of being a relevant world power. Russia does. They wish to create a rival "Russian world" to the current "Atlantic world." This will never work.

Russia as we know it today will fall. It is only a matter of time. The only way to keep any sort of control is to go full "North Korea" and become an international pariah that brutally destroys any internal dissent. I don't think that Putin will be able to manage that. There are way too many rival forces with power and way too much to lose to allow him to do that. Whatever rises from the ashes will be something completely different to Russia as we know it today.

The danger is that Russia in its death throes is a dangerous beast that might lash out unpredictably. We cannot know what will happen if the Russian leadership decides that the game is over for them unless they do something extremely drastic. Considering the ultranationalist in control of Russia, this could very well mean a major war.

"Why do we need the world if Russia is not in it?"

Russia was barely having any relevancy before this anyway. Except for oil.

 

[Disheveled Human]

No.
Seriously, its just not.
Can we pretty please stop trying to gaslight god knows who by stating "OMG ROCKETHOLOCAUST" every time a fucking building gets hit by something ?
This is twitter-tier disinfo.


This is the real life version of what you just described, and what it looks like:

Battle of Grozny (1999–2000) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Does your video look like it got the Grozny-deluxe treatment ? Or like a single, concentrated strike to reduce damage, compared to just bombing everything?

Doesn't matter the west is gonna use this shit against Putin because they can. More war crime porn Mr. Putin, he sure is doing a good job at fucking himself and his countrymen in the ass. Everyone has HD cameras and can watch this in real time. The optics of this are as bad as it gets.

 

[Dave_Ph]

I wonder if people leaked how to make a pipebomb to ukraine
although strategically speaking it'd be easier to molotov a tank from above a high building multiple times, but that would required cordination. personally if I was in a wartorn area, I'd start gathering as many vodka bottles as I can preferably 99 proof vodka, and wait from a very high vantage point and chuck those bad boys until I make a good boom boom all the while laughing autistically maybe before that dump a shit ton of gas and then chuck the molotov cock tail while running for my life. all the while laughing "ha ha tank go boom." wouldn't even do it for the money just the fun of it.

Are you discussing your rich fantasy life with your therapist.
Sometime they may go a bit too deep

 

[tyko]

Bad as 2020+ has been in America, it must be downright hell in Ukraine.

First it was the "New Normal", and now it's war there.

Hopefully this war ends soon.

Don't worry, mister Great Reset supports Ukraine so they'll be fine.

 

[Womanhater69]

you should've seen the butthurt when brussels was starting to consider labeling nuclear (and gas) as sustainable energy due to it's low emissions. iirc austria and luxembourg were complaining the loudest, followed by spain. still curious where especially luxembourg is supposed to get that green energy from with ample space for dams and wind turbines...

Expecting sense from the average 'leaders of europe' is unfortunately impossible.
Not that Luxembourg is one.

 

[Corpun]

Real hero, real leader.

The Zelensky stanning in those comments is depressing. I'm sure these people stan Poroschenko as well.

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How to get your own people killed 101.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Twitter right now:

 

[Saleh]

As far as I'm concerned, Putin drove Russia to a national suicide the moment he attacked Ukraine.

The sanctions are something the Russian economy can never recover from in its current state. The living standard of the average person will fall drastically, he can no longer travel abroad, he can no longer purchase the goods he used and all his savings will vanish. There will be no real economic development in Russia anymore. Once the ability of the government to trade and gain international currency dries up, inflation will spike up. We might see something very similar happening to Russia as what happened to Venezuela. The difference is that Venezuela never had any delusions of being a relevant world power. Russia does.

Russia as we know it today will fall. It is only a matter of time. The only way to keep any sort of control is to go full "North Korea" and become an international pariah that brutally destroys any internal dissent. I don't think that Putin will be able to manage that. There are way too many rival forces with power and way too much to lose to allow him to do that.

The danger is that Russia in its death throes is a dangerous beast that might lash out unpredictably. We cannot know what will happen if the Russian leadership decides that the game is over for them unless they do something extremely drastic. Considering the ultranationalist in control of Russia, this could very well mean a major war.

"Why do we need the world if Russia is not in it?"

Russia was fucked longterm anyways.

The Ukries would ultimately take Crimea and Donbass (with NATO support) and it's 25 million fighting age male population will be halved in some decades and their status as energy superpower would be challenged by Ukraine because they have trillions of dolars worth of natural gas in the black sea, the donbass and near Lvov.

Putin decided to neutralize Ukraine not only for political, strategic and territorial reasons but also for existential reasons related to energy.

 

[Mukhrani]

Blaming the US/"West" for the current Russo - Ukrainian conflict is just ignorance. Sure, you can look at this over the short term history wise and say it is due to XYZ intervention/meddling, but looking at any European conflict that way ignores thousands of years of historical conflict and animosity. So all the "Russia is just defending against NATO/Western aggression" bullshit is just that, bullshit. NATO wouldn't be a thing if it were not for the very real threat posed by Russia.

Find me a single influential policymaker in American pre-2008 who framed NATO expansion as a way to contain an aggressive Russia. The only people who were predicting an aggressive response from Russia at that time were the opponents of NATO expansion, mostly realists. The proponents of expansion were mostly calling these critics antiquated, and insisting that market liberalization around the world would lead to political liberalization and the 'end of history'. They were completely taken by surprise by Russia's actions in Georgia and Crimea, and invented the idea of a revanchist, aggressive Russia as a post hoc explanation that exonerated them after they fucked everything up. One of the fiercest critics of the later expansions was George Kennan, the guy who came up with the containment strategy that brought down the Soviet Union.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Are you discussing your rich fantasy life with your therapist.
Sometime they may go a bit too deep

I would strongly recommend you cease and desist in engaging with this particular poster.

 

[Happy Fish]

I really don't think forcing Russian financial independence is going to go how people think it is going to go, at least not past the short term.

 

[Get Fisted]

I would strongly recommend you cease and desist in engaging with this particular poster.

Did you never aggravate the retard kids in school? 'cuz you missed out on a lot of fun.

 

[Mukhrani]

More from Kharkiv
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I'm no expert in field triage, but did someone just throw a bunch of napkins on his wounds?

 

[Corpun]

Twitter right now:
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I'm sure most of these people don't even know the ethnos-linguistic make-up of Ukraine.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I really don't think forcing Russian financial independence is going to go how people think it is going to go, at least not past the short term.

Short term, they’re definitely getting screwed over. Long term, I think they could score a deal with China to help stabilize things, but at the cost of Russia pretty much becoming a serf state of China.

 

[MooseGump]

I'm no expert in field triage, but did someone just throw a bunch of napkins on his wounds?

Fellow medics we found the wounded, deploy the bounty double roll

 

[Get Fisted]

Fellow medics we found the wounded, deploy the bounty double roll

You didn't know we tested the quicker picker upper by packing allied wounds with it during dubya dubya two?

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

Another morning with electricity and the interwebs.

I guess I was wrong that hiring a (Latina,Cisgender) CIA analyst with an anxiety disorder was a tad to intersectional. Her therapist must be proud of her.

It’s Latinx shitlord.

Chill out. Brandon has got this.

I know right? Imagine if Russia had its puppet installed right now. It’d be game over man, game over.

 

[Corpun]

Short term, they’re definitely getting screwed over. Long term, I think they could score a deal with China to help stabilize things, but at the cost of Russia pretty much becoming a serf state of China.

Issue is China never sees itself as an equal partner. I'm sure Putin knows this and is planning some sort of leverage in order to avoid becoming Xi or whoever takes over's bitch, but who knows, he maight have massively overestimated.

 

[Niggaplease]

I wonder is russia has super secret zombie program, UwU that would be so cool and alot more surivable than a nuke explosion.