Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Doseferatu]

Why do the Serbs have a love boner for Russia?

It makes sense that they hate NATO after the bombing and killing of over 1,500 Serbs.

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[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Interview I found of a US Colonel and former advisor to the Secretary Of Defence, Doug MacGregor on the Ukraine vs. Russia dynamic.
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You can tell the talking head is flabbergasted that someone from the military is somehow against prolonging human suffering and a pointless war

Putin doesn't care about sacrificing Russians and Impoverishing his people. He actually is based because he knows the average Russian is a mongrel dog that needs to be put down.

the russians should just fuck off back to their shithole tbh.

Mad tbh

 

[A Logging Company]

Still of the opinion that the war is irrational and that Russia could easily have manuvred themselves into a more advantageous position without firing a shot.

Firstly there was no immediate threat of Ukraine joining NATO. Nato have been fairly consistent in that no nation with territorial claims and/or already involved in an armed conflict can join.

Secondly Ukraine was and still is politically unstable. The only thing uniting them is Russian aggression.
Ukraine has a sizeable reactionary political wing and actual national socialists in Parliament. And yet the majority voted for a liberal jew. These factions were assured to come into conflict sooner or later. The ukrainian parliament has already had one representative jailed for plotting a violent coup.

Without Russian aggression Ukraine increasingly risked internal violence. And it should have been then, not now, where Russia should have elected to act.

You're missing the fact that the US has only displayed weakness both internationally and internally. Putin and his boys probably ruled its now or never. After the Euro-Maiden, it would be only a matter of time before Ukraine would join the EU and NATO. So may as well strike while the eagle is being guided by a dementia patient and woke retarded underlins.

If I had to guess, their main miscalculation was the extent that Western countries would sanction them (even the neutral Swiss who bought/sold confiscated Jew gold from the Nazis during WWII is getting in on it), albeit they have not shutdown the gas and oil. Another thing that probably miscalculation was how fervent the anti-Russian sentiment would ramp up in Western countries, to the point where there are hate crimes against Russians (or attempted since that restaurant in D.C. was owned by a Lithuanian) already beginning to set in. This fervor may just push the US and allies into a hot war against their will.

 

[Strix454]

Why do the Serbs have a love boner for Russia?

Because they are typically the only reliable friend Serbia has.

 

[Fcret]

Why do the Serbs have a love boner for Russia?

Serbs are the most closely-related of the Southern Slavs to the Russians culturally (being Orthodox) and the Russians historically regarded them as the natural leaders of Yugoslavia. So the Russians tend to support them no matter what.

 

[Scotsman]

The hard brass tacks of the matter is Ukrainians are to Russians what the English are to the Scottish. Two different people who have to share the same historical legacy to their mutual misery.

Yes.

 

[Coccxys]

Every war means a lot of money. Unfortunately, not for the regular folks.

We all get shares as part of our salary so its really discussions of if we sell up now or sit on them.

 

[Mr Bunny]

NATO bombed the shit out of them when Yugoslavia was going down.

It makes sense that they hate NATO after the bombing and killing of over 1,500 Serbs.

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So it's more fuck NATO than pro-Russia. Alright.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Why do the Serbs have a love boner for Russia?

Something to do with a NATO bombing campaign in the mid 90s.

 

[Strix454]

So it's more fuck NATO than pro-Russia. Alright.

No. Its pro-Russia. The Russians are a big reason they got independence from Turkey in the first place. The Russians also went to war to defend
them in World War I. Its not about what the Russians are doing now being right or wrong. Its about a historical alliance. The one is always
kind of there for the other.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Putin doesn't care about sacrificing Russians and Impoverishing his people. He actually is based because he knows the average Russian is a mongrel dog that needs to be put down.

Putin understands something our idiot western leaders don't. People thrive in conflict. They are at their best when they suffer for a higher purpose. The sanctions will only make his internal position stronger.

The irony of this however is he has inflicted on Ukraine a similar mentality. They too have decided they are willing to suffer if it serves a higher purpose.

 

[Fcret]

Something to do with a NATO bombing campaign in the mid 90s.

It long predates that. In the lead-up to WW1, the Russians officially drew the line in the sand that said the Austrians were not permitted to violate Serbian sovereignty in order to investigate the assassination of Franz Ferdinand.

 

[HumanHive]

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Oh wow. AA. First invented in... [checks wikipedia] 1870.
I guess we should just give up on air warfare and go home.

 

[No_one]

We all get shares as part of our salary so its really discussions of if we sell up now or sit on them.

Totally reminds me of "Catch-22' and the part about a guy who paid the enemy to bomb his airbase but then he showed how much he's earned and assured everyone that 'everyone gets a share'.

 

[Daddy's Little Kitten]

Vladimir Putin's black belt revoked by international taekwondo organization

Vladimir Putin, a self-admitted judo connoisseur, had his honorary title suspended one day after another martial arts organization revoked his status.

www.newsweek.com

Official Announcement of the International Judo Federation

Official Announcement of the International Judo Federation

www.ijf.org

These sanctions are getting brutal. Basically OVER for Russia after this one.

Now he doesn't know karate anymore

 

[HumanHive]

Lol, Tucker is talking about the Sam Hyde Kinzinger tweet.

 

[make_it_so]

AHAHAHA, THEIR MINISTRY OF DEFENSE TOLD THOSE ARMED CIVILIAN FUCKTARDS, THAT THE VEHICLES WITHOUT "Z" AND WITH UKRAINIAN FLAG MAY BE SABOTEURS, EXPECT EVEN MORE FRIENDLY FIRE.
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I half way want to see them lose just because of how fucking retarded they are.

 

[MelloYello]

Still of the opinion that the war is irrational and that Russia could easily have manuvred themselves into a more advantageous position without firing a shot.

Firstly there was no immediate threat of Ukraine joining NATO. Nato have been fairly consistent in that no nation with territorial claims and/or already involved in an armed conflict can join.

Secondly Ukraine was and still is politically unstable. The only thing uniting them is Russian aggression.
Ukraine has a sizeable reactionary political wing and actual national socialists in Parliament. And yet the majority voted for a liberal jew. These factions were assured to come into conflict sooner or later. The ukrainian parliament has already had one representative jailed for plotting a violent coup.

Without Russian aggression Ukraine increasingly risked internal violence. And it should have been then, not now, where Russia should have elected to act.

Reasonable.I still think NATO expansion is the single most important factor.
Russia may have been privy to information, or misinformation, that Ukraine was certainly heading towards NATO membership, given another decade or two.

If that's something the Kremlin decided to be a definitive red line, it would make sense to deal with the issue now, rather than give it another 5 years of weapons being funneled into Ukraine. The Minsk Agreements obviously weren't working out as intended, despite ample time passing.

 

[Vlinny-kun]

Tucker Carlson is deboonking the "ghost of kviv" meme and I'm dying.

 

[Honk Hill]