Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Carla Cogs said:
Canada imports Oil when they have Merica at their doorsteps?
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Not all oil is the same. Canadian tar sands oil is low quality and full of contaminants, so it's mixed with higher grades of oil to make a blend that can be easily refined. Same reason why the US exports oil despite having enough at home - US shale oil, because of its extraction process, is very clean, requires very little work to refine, and is easy to turn into petrochemicals for stuff other than energy, so it sells for a premium on intl markets. No reason to burn it for fuel when you can sell it to be turned into a more valuable chemical product.

American refiners don't like shale oil because it means all the fancy equipment they bought to handle increasingly shitty arab crude is basically worthless so Canadian oil is a godsend for them because it means they can stay in business.
 
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дядя Боря said:
NATO to 1997 state of things border ...

this is what Russia demanded this past December, this is what Putin said himself like a month ago and I have not heard that this was not on the table.
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Putin didn't want Poland or the Baltic states to join NATO. They have and they're not leaving. You have eastern European nations who despite the various conflicts with each other over the centuries minus the Serbs all can agree on hating Russians. Even if let's say France and Germany collapse into conflict these countries have all agreed to align with each other and support one another.
I think Putin's gamble will cost him dearly politically especially if anti war protests begin to grow. There is a good chance the US could color revolution the protests and agitate and make things worse for Putin.
 
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The more I see of other nations either looking the other way or making deals with Russia the more I think Putin actually had some discussions with international partners before going for it.

It seem there are quite a few countries annoyed with America playing global hegemony and while they aren't going to directly go against that they seem more and more willing to take actions against America's interests where in the past they would have been entirely in lock step.
 
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Meat Target said:
Oil is now over $105 a barrel. Who was that fucknut who said we need to be okay with it to own Putin?

"You have to make sacrifices (but we conveniently do not)! Grow a Victory Garden and carpool, we wanna LARP like it's WW2!"
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I mean if the Biden administration is competent and oil/gas leasing and drilling opens up again ohh boy I think middle America will get that desperate breathing room it desperately needs right now.
 
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The Ugly One said:
Posted earlier, but I'd like to just reemphasize that the reason we care so much about "democracy" in Ukraine is they've historically helped our ruling elite steal a lot of money.

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Apparently saber-rattling over WW3 and completely destroying the credibility of the SWIFT system is worth it to maintain the Biden family income.
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It's all about protecting money.

The US didn't enter WW1 because of the Lusitania or the Zimmerman Note. Not entirely. What they didn't tell you in history class was that J.P. Morgan had extensive financial ties to Britain. The US entered so he wouldn't lose his investments.

The Wheel of Time turns...
 
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Cold Root Beer said:
Maybe Russians military is just a retard-fest, but you have to remember, Russia looking weak, but ultimately achieving their strategic and tactical goals is a possible PsyOps objective on their part. This isn't meant to be a show of force, I think. They're actually trying to achieve specific tactical goals, and your enemy looking like a bunch of mouthdrooling retards is oftentimes to their advantage unless it's just going to be strictly posturing.
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My feeling is a bit simpler this time. I think Russia just sent low-rank, low-morale units first because they, for whatever reason, thought Ukraine would be an easy grab, then they were met with unexpected resistance (e.g. Ukraine gov't arming it's citizens and asking them to make molotovs), and so brought in the big boys right away. Y'know, natural escalation, like a government calling in it's military when a protest gets loud enough.
 
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