Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Ike Aim]

Well, at least there's always that weekly staple we can all count on, COMICSGATE KINGS

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

Speaking of @Fathead, I haven't heard anything from him in a while.
Is he trying to outdo @PocketJacks as the biggest cuck in ComicsGate?

 

[Mister Dongs]

Comicsgate Financial Report - February 2022

February 2022's gross ($319,333.07) was a downturn from January ($411,569); the trio of public domain offerings between Von Klaus' Terror in the Trenches, appropriating the use of public domain Golden Age hero Black Terror, Narwhal's treatment of the public domain IP of Nosferatu and Gabe Eltaeb's Truth Justice American Way [sp], named after the public domain former slogan of Superman, not quite capturing momentum the way January's outings by CG Kings Nolan, Baron and Malin did. On paper, Comicsgate made more money in February of 2021 than it did in Feb 2022, but this difference can be attributed to the slowdown in Frog's crowfunding between then and now; at this time last year, Frog was crowdfunding multiple titles like Creed, Snowman and Reignbow Brute as well as Rekt Planet still being in InDemand. Removing Frog from the equation, the rest of Comicsgate collectively went up from $254,447 in 02/2021 to $303,138 in 02/2022, a sign for marginal optimism.

Following the public domain properties were the CG Kings crowdfunds from January carrying into their second month with Nolan's Giant-Sized Manly Tales, Jon Malin's struggling Graveyard Shift 4, Baron's Thin Blue Line and Billy Tucci's Shi Omnibus. After these is Tyger Blue by Matthew Fowler, a long time denizen of "slumtown CG" who rose to a role of leadership this month by furiously interrogating the IndieVolt team for their part in a scam involving several smaller creators sinking tens of thousands of dollars in a fake distribution deal opportunity to get indie comics into mall outlet Spencer's Gifts. With an unerring sense for bullshit excuses from creators that can only be honed by being Comicsgate for several years, Fowler engaged in a surreal combination of bloodsports and criminal interrogation as he shut down alibis, shouting down the IndieVolt guy's camwhore wife and declaring that "we out here grinding these streets, aint got time for these motherfuckers" was deemed top content by all until the matter was escalated to another smaller CG creator who doubles as a FBI federal fraud investigator as his dayjob (Dojo Kun Comics), concluded that the IndieVolt team (Varian and Lola Grant) weren't criminals, just immense retards that weren't merely grifted but grifted into using their operation and connections to defraud indie creators on the actual scammers' behalf.

After this is the passive income from Frog's various unfulfilled campaigns, Jeff Hicks' suspiciously funded Ghostbusters' parody and Jon's, er, controversial 22-page isekai comic fueled mostly by spite towards Liam and Micah.

Finally Mark Poulton launched some comic called Black Owl, which appears to be the whitey-hating version of Nighthawk from Supreme Power with a cape. Bravo Poulton, bravo.

1​	Von Klaus​	Terror in the Trenches​	$42,060.00​
2​	Gabe Eltaeb​	Truth Justice American Way​	$28,050.00​
3​	Narwhal​	Nosferatu​	$27,360.00​
4​	Graham Nolan​	GIANT-SIZE TWO-FISTED MANLY TALES​	$25,750.00​
5​	Jon Malin​	Graveyard Shift 4​	$23,340.00​
6​	Chris Braly​	Thin Blue Line​	$19,520.00​
7​	Billy Tucci​	Shi Omnibus​	$13,300.00​
8​	Matthew Fowler​	Tyger Blue​	$12,660.00​
9​	Frog​	Various​	$11,695.00​
10​	Jeff Hicks​	Wokebusters​	$8,800.00​
11​	Jon Del Arroz​	A High School Girl In the Crusades​	$8,260.00​
12​	Mark Poulton​	Black Owl​	$7,820.00​
13​	Patrick Thomas Parnell​	Johnny Phantasm Extreme 93​	$6,297.88​
14​	Dave Brink​	Perfect 10 Issue 3​	$5,591.16​
15​	David Dominguez​	Cerebrum Vol 1​	$5,450.00​
16​	Richard Meyer​	Is This You?​	$4,500.00​
17​	Rob Shaffer​	Tales of Novterra​	$4,200.00​
18​	Aaron Lopresti​	Wraith of God​	$3,550.00​
19​	Cody Fernandez​	Jack Irons: The Steel Cowboy​	$3,240.00​
20​	Art Thibert​	Black and White Vol 2​	$2,880.00​

 

[Strix454]

Simple Zack is back to talking about his delusional understandings of public domain characters. He is back to talking about
writing his own Superman and Batman comics. He still doesn't understand trademarks and how they play into doing that
at all. I think he also has this idea that every batman comic and every image of batman falls into public domain all at once.
People have talked to him I think and he has listened to people talk about it, but he still doesn't get it.

The interesting new bit that he talked about why he doesn't want to do
modified versions of mainstream characters to tell his stories. He then launched into a rant bragging about how nearly
all of his characters are modified versions of Marvel characters:

Knife Hand = Iron Fist
Cuffs = Luke Cage
Silkworm = Spiderman
Devil Dog = Punisher + Captain America
Hellpriest = Daredevil

It was kind of disappointing listening to him brag about his core characters are all just knock-offs of stuff from Marvel. Even the
stuff he created for Jawbreakers ends up being superhero fan-fiction. And if Disney were more legally aggressive on his sort of stuff
than it probably is, he would be in serious trouble. You can do derivative characters by changing things up. But you can't go out
in public and brag about how your characters are really their characters. That is just a bad idea.

He also fell into a batshit crazy rant about eating at McDonalds in the middle of the video.

Every time Simple Zack eats lunch or dinner at McDonalds, he feels that its a life failure. Breakfast is still
cool at McDonalds for Simple Zack of course because that is what he does. The stuff on the Breakfast menu is just
great. But grown ass men like Simple Zack shouldn't be eating cheeseburgers for lunch or dinner
at McDonalds.

Retarded......

 

[Strix454]

Speaking of @Fathead, I haven't heard anything from him in a while.
Is he trying to outdo @PocketJacks as the biggest cuck in ComicsGate?

The big news last I remember is that he has patched things up with Nasser and they are going to work
together again on their Lobo knock-off. comic.

Given whats going to inevitably happen IMO, that could be used to make a case for Nasser
being the biggest cuck in comicsgate. The literal cuck of a cuck.

 

[Miniluv]

Simple Zack is back to talking about his delusional understandings of public domain characters. He is back to talking about
writing his own Superman and Batman comics. He still doesn't understand trademarks and how they play into doing that
at all. I think he also has this idea that every batman comic and every image of batman falls into public domain all at once.
People have talked to him I think and he has listened to people talk about it, but he still doesn't get it.

The interesting new bit that he talked about why he doesn't want to do
modified versions of mainstream characters to tell his stories. He then launched into a rant bragging about how nearly
all of his characters are modified versions of Marvel characters:

What a dumb fuck.

He honestly believes that these characters will just become "public domain" and everything about them is suddenly his to use as he sees fit. There are all kinds of things related to these characters that will likely not make that transition, important things like their supporting characters, the villains, elements of their costumes and even the symbols on their chests. At best, Zack would be left with the basic outlines of the way these characters were portrayed in 1938-1940, with little resemblance to the cultural icons we know. Going the route of simply modifying a character would give him greater freedom to tell whatever story he wanted to tell rather than needlessly handcuffing himself to the lesser version of the character in the public domain. I guess Zack really wants to write a story about a guy in plain blue long johns who can jump pretty far as long as he can call the guy Clark Kent.

I also like how he follows up his statement that he doesn't want to do modified versions of mainstream characters with the revelation that he's doing his own version of Batman and the entire Bat-Family in a future installment of Jawbreakers. Make up your mind, retard.

He also fell into a batshit crazy rant about eating at McDonalds in the middle of the video.

Every time Simple Zack eats lunch or dinner at McDonalds, he feels that its a life failure. Breakfast is still
cool at McDonalds for Simple Zack of course because that is what he does. The stuff on the Breakfast menu is just
great. But grown ass men like Simple Zack shouldn't be eating cheeseburgers for lunch or dinner
at McDonalds.

Retarded......

It's always confounded me that Zack can be both obsessed with his fitness and appearance and completely oblivious to the effect his terrible diet may have on those things. His biggest fear of getting his annoying reflux cough looked after was that the doctor would actually tell him to stop eating garbage. Oh no, he might have to prepare his own meals and eat a fucking vegetable like an adult without autism. The horror.

 

[Least Concern]

It was kind of disappointing listening to him brag about his core characters are all just knock-offs of stuff from Marvel. Even the
stuff he created for Jawbreakers ends up being superhero fan-fiction. And if Disney were more legally aggressive on his sort of stuff
than it probably is, he would be in serious trouble. You can do derivative characters by changing things up. But you can't go out
in public and brag about how your characters are really their characters. That is just a bad idea.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask… Why are you manually putting line breaks into your posts? Are you writing them on a typewriter?

Doing this makes your posts quite unpleasant to read on phones and other smaller screens/web browser windows. If you didn't realize this, try resizing your browser window and see what your posts look like. Even with the browser window at full width on my laptop, your post looks like this.

 

[jspit2.0]

Since I know you're a Dean capo could you please pass along a message to him? He's hiding from me at the moment.

Dean, do you remember when you did a video with your mum where you were tweaking and clearly on cocaine? Do you remember when she said she prefers Stephen Crowder to your content? Do you remember being ashamed for being a junkie? Do you remember on your @Yusuke account before it got exposed you made a post in the Onision thread where you spread your brothers dox around and shilled your own channel? Do you remember when you used to wear a beanie like Tim pool to hide your receding hairline? Do you remember when you told JDA directly that you didn't want any beef and Vikki was crazy and then you talked shit about him on your show? Do you remember when Lady Alchemy had a 15k GoFundMe for her legal defense? Do you remember how Vikki said it wasn't a very big amount? Do you remember how you only got 1.1k for yours? Do you remember when Comics Gate Artists donated money to it? Do you remember how you don't talk to them anymore? Do you remember when you probably spent the GoFundMe money on cocaine? Do you remember when you hired Spectre as your lawyer? Do you remember when you you said you don't do gay ops? Do you remember when you did a gay op to try to get the Spectre thread removed? Do you remember when the very logs you leaked said that you hired Spectre as your lawyer? Do you remember when Ethan Van Scriver tried to save you by letting you sign on to his motion to dismiss? Do you remember how you make videos about he's evil every week? Do you remember when you tried to snake Surfer and he called you autistic? Do you remember when you did an interview with Mockulous and you lied to everyone when you said that Spectre just wrote what you told him to write as if you're a lawyer and he's your paralegal? Do you remember when Captain Manning went on The DankStream with JDA and he called you a faggot and told you to get a lawyer? Do you remember when you cried to AltisticRight about bullshit as if he's the dad of users on this site and he gave up your Kiwifarms account name because he thought you were a faggot? Do you remember when your brother had a wedding with the rest of the family on the beach and you stayed at home? Do you remember when Ethan Van Scriver had his lawsuit dismissed because it was was filed in the wrong jurisdiction? Do you remember that could have been you? Do you remember when your brother went on a stream with Yellow Flash and Rekieta and they laughed at you because you hired Spectre as a lawyer? Do you remember the first time your parents asked you when you were going to move out of home? Do you remember your girlfriend being thrice the age of your brothers wife? Do you remember when you made a twitter account where the profile picture was a gorilla to harass her? Do you remember when people stopped believing you were the victim? Do you remember when you started YouTube you thought you'd make it big as a commentator? Do you remember covering lolcows like John Michael Kelly? Do you remember when you haven't broken 500 views for your entire time on the youtube platform except that one time for that interview with Ron Toye? Do you remember that you have 640 subscribers? Do you remember when people started to think of you as a joke? Do you remember the first time someone called you a lolcow? Do you remember the last time I dabbed on you? Do you remember Cuckson Gin, Sriracha and Cow Poly?

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What the fuck?

I noped out about half way through this, is there a TL;DR or does this make any point by the end?

Vikki is a sperg, Dean is her bitch, and EVS and CG aren't cows...I'm guessing?

Basically reading over the last couple of pages annnnnddddd....

The point I'm trying to make here, that you don't seem to grasp, is that you and I seem to have common ground concerning the fact that this thread has been "all Ethan all the time." About how that has made the thread lame. I take a different trajectory, point out about how tiring (and now, IMO, way off base) this is, and you bitch about that. And no, it's NOT the same thing, because the people (not person) I'm discussing hasn't been a primary discussion topic in this thread in anywhere near the same way EVS has.

BTW, if you get a chance, you might want to read this, and this instead of regurgitating whatever crap you're being spoon-fed be certain people and groups.

I got no issue with you, man. I'd recommend we just drop it. Most of my posting about this current shitshow is over the lawsuit thread (which, as @FROG notes, has taken on a very different tone than this thread). I just wanted to address the asinine assertion by Big Daddy that anybody critical of D&V are pro-Preston, while adding how I personally feel the EVS alogging has now risen to an absolutely absurd level. The former is addressed because I think it's a grossly unfair viewpoint that I think is meant to smear critics given how Lamont has... ahem... certain "proclivities."

The sentence you quoted literally says you're doing it about someone else, not EVS. Tone down your crayon consumption before reading.

Couple of things.

Hard to get away from Frog. Bitch will literally make even the most remote thing about him. Wouldn't be a problem except....

A group of people really don't like him. I get it. But CG is a fan club/personality cult around a retarded faggot from Jersey. That's why I find it weird that some people will do the low key gunt guarding for Frog.

I'm sure if Dean wants to create a farms account and answer for himself he will. Young Rippa did..

In Comicsgate related news, it looks like ex industry pro Gabe Eltaeb is barely outpacing smelly CG savant Narwhal in their campaigns they launched at nearly the same time.

Gabe's comic Truth, Justice, American Way looks like an ensemble type superhero comic whereas Narwhal seems to be adapting the old silent film Nosferatu into comic form.

Looks like Gabe's got a line of T-shirts to sell too. His campaign seems a little low for an ex industry pro, I wonder if Narwhal will overtake him in the end... And Narwhal's Nosferatu looks more like a goofy nerd than a scary creature. I'm sure Comicsgate will hail it as a masterpiece though..
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Truly this was worth throwing away working at DC comics for.

I know many of you cringe just thinking of Simple Zack talking about the big Slavic slapfight.

Yet 2017 YBZ just posted a video describing the Russian army like it is an issue of America Chavez

I am on the floor laughing.
Maybe YBZ should stop talking comics and just do a rant about something he knows...

No, I just don't care about him anymore. This is like Batlesbian or season 8 GOT. It's low hanging fruit.

Since you are all a bunch of Scriverfags and argueing about it boring us all, I have a new person entering the wonderful free for all called comicsgate

It all started with Perch being salty about being mentioned in that article. Video below but it is mostly boring salt.

I present to you Mr. Adam Yeater
He presents himself as an American artist, comic maker and publisher of One Last Day and The World of Knonx. He is currently publishing his extreme horror series called Blood Desert on a monthly basis.
He laments how corporate comics have destroyed true underground quality comics.

His comics:
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February 25 he published this article The Strange and Toxic World of American Comic Book YouTube Commentators. - archive

In that gem of an article he runs every major comicbook youtuber through the wringer, including Perch, his christfag buddy Wes, Clownfish TV, Yas Queen Zac, The Super Van Scriver Bros, Yellow Fag, Forced Adversity aka Actual Fagdom and "Cancel Culture Kayfabe" with a lot of shade, some sick burns and a lot of ranting.

At some point he says:

Dude, if you are a kiwi, you are my hero!

Worth a read for a chuckle and maybe there is some milk here.

A personal fav of mine. Describe these people from the ground up and what does it sound like?

 

[FluffyJackal]

He honestly believes that these characters will just become "public domain" and everything about them is suddenly his to use as he sees fit. There are all kinds of things related to these characters that will likely not make that transition, important things like their supporting characters, the villains, elements of their costumes and even the symbols on their chests. At best, Zack would be left with the basic outlines of the way these characters were portrayed in 1938-1940, with little resemblance to the cultural icons we know. Going the route of simply modifying a character would give him greater freedom to tell whatever story he wanted to tell rather than needlessly handcuffing himself to the lesser version of the character in the public domain. I guess Zack really wants to write a story about a guy in plain blue long johns who can jump pretty far as long as he can call the guy Clark Kent.

I also like how he follows up his statement that he doesn't want to do modified versions of mainstream characters with the revelation that he's doing his own version of Batman and the entire Bat-Family in a future installment of Jawbreakers. Make up your mind, retard.

Considering Meyer's impatience and short attention span, by the time Superman becomes technically public domain he will have moved on to brighter and shinier things...

 

[9th legion centurion 002]

I know many of you cringe just thinking of Simple Zack talking about the big Slavic slapfight.

If this comic stuff doesn't work out, maybe Richard can do videos where he takes current event political topics he knows little to nothing about and gives his autistic hot takes. That could be entertaining.

Speaking of @Fathead, I haven't heard anything from him in a while.
Is he trying to outdo @PocketJacks as the biggest cuck in ComicsGate?

Speaking of @PocketJacks, have you guys seen the latest headline from the war-

 

[Rupin]

If this comic stuff doesn't work out, maybe Richard can do videos where he takes current event political topics he knows little to nothing about and gives his autistic hot takes. That could be entertaining.

Speaking of @PocketJacks, have you guys seen the latest headline from the war-

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this is Preston’s chance to live out his dream of finally becoming his White Lilly character in all her perverted glory.

 

[A nameless trool]

If this comic stuff doesn't work out, maybe Richard can do videos where he takes current event political topics he knows little to nothing about and gives his autistic hot takes. That could be entertaining.

The video starts with "I don't want to be this guy that jumps from trend to trend LIKE ALMOST EVERYBODY" and then he goes on what he has read in the news that made him cringe as a professional killer of brown people and the guy who invaded Iraq.
YBZ feels like a Final Fantasy character: He will either impulsively make a weak sauce attack (video) the moment he sees a flashing icon.
Or he will refrain from doing one, the tension building up inside him, until he hits a limit break and make a flashy pow-wow attack (video).
His glory days were a lot of those similar videos, him listening to people say that Captan Marvel and America Chavez being the best ever, then actually readinig the comics (like a sucker) and staying silent about how they suck. Until a Bleeding Cool article called him a racist, so he started his channel.
That's why his Vita video of the week is so boring too

 

[Captain Manning]

I'm sure if Dean wants to create a farms account and answer for himself he will. Young Rippa did..

He's had an account since October of 2020, Big Daddy. He logs into it pretty frequently. It was recently unmasked by the mods due to their displeasure of gay op faggotry (as I explained to @The Holmes).

I just thought I'd correct the record again.

Technically, BTW, this this means one Kiwifarmer is suing three. Unless there's yet another plot twist and it turns out John "I prefer A cups" Lamont has an account here too. Then it would be an all Kiwifarmer lawsuit.

 

[Simply Outplayed-HD]

This whole time? It was true? Holy shit.

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[NasserRabadi13]

Given whats going to inevitably happen IMO, that could be used to make a case for Nasser
being the biggest cuck in comicsgate. The literal cuck of a cuck.

It's not being a cuck to act like adults, put the past behind us, and move forward with the sequel that our fans have constantly asked for.

Brutas 2 is gonna be bigger and better than book 1! I've improved as a writer, I have the best editor I can ask for, and Donal Delay is a top 5 CG artist.

I'm running the campaign and handling fulfillment, and we are gonna have most or all of the 48 pages done before launch.

 

[The Coon]

Looks like Liam DMCAed Jon's High School Girl In the Crusades campaign and Indiegogo took it down to review it. Has the orange leprechaun gone too far this time?




P.S. I just couldnt resist

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Looks like Liam DMCAed Jon's High School Girl In the Crusades campaign and Indiegogo took it down to review it. Has the orange leprechaun gone too far this time?

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Imagine the absolute state of CG when you need to clout-chase Liam of all people to make a buck.

 

[Strix454]

Looks like Liam DMCAed Jon's High School Girl In the Crusades campaign and Indiegogo took it down to review it. Has the orange leprechaun gone too far this time?

Liam is becoming more boring. Pretending that a comicsgate fan came to his house and fought him with Liam putting him in the hospital.....that was good stuff. Liam following up with claims that he has facial cuts & a shoulder fracture and sending a email supposedly from his wife to EVS begging for peace......priceless.

DCMAing a campaign because of a joke cover? Not so much.

 

[The Coon]

Well this was short lived, looks like the campaign is back up and running.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Simple Zack is back to talking about his delusional understandings of public domain characters. He is back to talking about writing his own Superman and Batman comics. He still doesn't understand trademarks and how they play into doing that at all. I think he also has this idea that every batman comic and every image of batman falls into public domain all at once. People have talked to him I think and he has listened to people talk about it, but he still doesn't get it.

I suspect Simple Zack's thoughts on this are more erm, emotional in nature than legal. When he talks about why being able to make a public domain Superman comic would be more worthwhile than making a comic about a Superman-analogue like Plutonian, Hyperion, "Truth, Justice American Way", etc, the idea is that it's the intangible emotional ties that a reader has with Superman specifically that holds its intrinsic value (as opposed to, say, the story). Sort of like how Ray Kroc saw the value in the emotional sentiment associated with the McDonalds brand in that movie Meyer likes. Specifically, the idea is that when someone looks at a Superman comic the hundreds of stories of Superman they've already read would inform and enrich the reading experience of each subsequent Superman comic, including in theory even if it is in the public domain and made by Richard C. Meyer. Feelings and aesthetics are top priority in all of Meyer's creations, whether it's capturing the feeling of being dropped into issue #300 of a breathing Bronze Age universe that Jawbreakers was going for, the "tijuana toilet comic feeling" of Iron Sights or the dayglo thing that was 499 (as opposed to other qualities such as, y'know, structure, craft, worldbuilding, originality or hard work). He may not have access to the rights to or even refer to the hundreds of Superman stories DC published, but the idea is that the customer would bring his memories of those stories when they read the work.

One problem with this is that the very act of an IP entering the public domain will likely shatter any notion of an unbroken, singular 'Superman' in the reader's mind as multiple Supermen appear on the market with zero relation to one another. Another is that over the past decade DC Comics has needed no outside help with degrading the idea of a consistent single character/universe, what with its constant devaluation of "continuity" between lax/non-existent editorial and constant reboots/crises between lax editorial and contant "Crisis" reboots. Recently, Frog recalled his dealing with former DC Comics President Dan Didio and how he "sperged out" about how it was very important that the DC Comics universe be internally consistent, a concern that Frog dismissed as stupid and an issue that "nobody cares" about and, according to Grant Morrison in a recent Substack interview, used by Scott Snyder as a wedge to stage a coup to oust Didio from his position. I can see why a creator would argue that "no one cares"; things like an enforced "house style" and insistence on a consistent universe all make the creator more interchangeable and subordinate to the publisher-owned intellectual property. But from the perspective of a fan I must disagree - the once-painstakingly maintained illusion that I could take a comic I have and it would inform every subsequent issue of that series I bought, or that I could go back over hundreds of back issues and each would add new context to the stories I've already read as a character passed hands from creator to creator over the decades, may have been DC Comics' most valuable property of all to offer of all.