Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
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STRONK!

The reason everybody shit talks Chinese and Russian gear is that their new toys (that are totally gonna fuck up the west this time) have consistently proven to be a bunch of overblown shit. Either their capabilities massively overstated or so expensive and complicated that they cannot be deployed in the numbers needed.

Again and again and again this has happened.
Worse then that they spend all their military budget acquiring the toys and allocate nothing for the cost of using them. I am mad on behalf of the Russian soldiers here. They weren't even told they were invading a country, and when they did go in ran out of fuel on the first day. The Russian Air Force apparently didn't get the memo there would be a war and didn't allocate enough fuel to provide saturation cover. Which means a third rate enemy air force with 10% of the on paper jets Russia has is STILL flying combat missions. And let's not even get into the fact they launched an air assault on an airport, didn't tell the troopers what they were doing and promptly got their asses handed to them by fucking airport security and the local gopnik gangs.

A consistent pattern of fuck ups is emerging here.
 
However, any good General Staff has such plans on the books, ready to go, with modifications as directed. Such plans should also long since have been in the hands of the major commands. You just transmit the changes and timelines. Planning is one of a staff's main reasons for existence. So is common sense, knowing plans don't survive contact with the enemy.
Chances are those contingency plans were and are sitting right there on the shelf, and even glancing in their direction gets you 7 years in Siberia
 
STRONK!

The reason everybody shit talks Chinese and Russian gear is that their new toys (that are totally gonna fuck up the west this time) have consistently proven to be a bunch of overblown shit. Either their capabilities massively overstated or so expensive and complicated that they cannot be deployed in the numbers needed.

Again and again and again this has happened.

Littoral combat ship, Zumwalt class, Paladin, F-35, OICW and the whole future soldier program, every military overhypes and you occasionally get something good from it like the F-15 or Virginia class
 
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Putin is believed to be self-conscious about his height, which has been estimated by Kremlin insiders at between 155 and 165 centimetres (5 feet 1 inch and 5 feet 5 inches) tall but is usually given at 170 centimetres (5 feet 7 inches).
Literally the Ethan Ralph of world leaders.
 
STRONK!

The reason everybody shit talks Chinese and Russian gear is that their new toys (that are totally gonna fuck up the west this time) have consistently proven to be a bunch of overblown shit. Either their capabilities massively overstated or so expensive and complicated that they cannot be deployed in the numbers needed.

Again and again and again this has happened.
reminds me of when NATO and the west thought the mig 31 was this hyper capable super agile and mach 3 capable aircraft
 
That was more because german paratroopers dropped without weapons....a weapons box was dropped first and trouble in Crete was the soldier couldnt find the damn boxes in the middle of the night

Russians drop with an ak atleast
The Germans dropped at first light. But the British still chopped them up, just not enough to keep them from securing an airfield.
 
So whats the biggest clown world result we can expect? Ukranian victory wish a push back and seizure of russian territory? something else?
New, extremely lethal strain of coof mutates among the Russian soldiery. 70% of personnel either dead or incapacitated. Ukrainians, thanks to some kind of bizarre mutation in their DNA, are either immune or only lightly affected by the new strain and push all the way to Moscow.

20 years from now, we have to consult High Imperial Patriarch Zelensky about the locations of our orbital space lasers for fear of running afoul of MAD.
 
Worse then that they spend all their military budget acquiring the toys and allocate nothing for the cost of using them. I am mad on behalf of the Russian soldiers here. They weren't even told they were invading a country, and when they did go in ran out of fuel on the first day. The Russian Air Force apparently didn't get the memo there would be a war and didn't allocate enough fuel to provide saturation cover. Which means a third rate enemy air force with 10% of the on paper jets Russia has is STILL flying combat missions. And let's not even get into the fact they launched an air assault on an airport, didn't tell the troopers what they were doing and promptly got their asses handed to them by fucking airport security and the local gopnik gangs.

A consistent pattern of fuck ups is emerging here.
Ukraine holding on would be fascinating. For the past 70-80 years the world has waited in terror for the Russian bear to lash out. Then we get this.
Too bad we still have to take them seriously they still have enough nukes to end human civilization 10 times over
 
Worse then that they spend all their military budget acquiring the toys and allocate nothing for the cost of using them. I am mad on behalf of the Russian soldiers here. They weren't even told they were invading a country, and when they did go in ran out of fuel on the first day. The Russian Air Force apparently didn't get the memo there would be a war and didn't allocate enough fuel to provide saturation cover. Which means a third rate enemy air force with 10% of the on paper jets Russia has is STILL flying combat missions. And let's not even get into the fact they launched an air assault on an airport, didn't tell the troopers what they were doing and promptly got their asses handed to them by fucking airport security and the local gopnik gangs.

A consistent pattern of fuck ups is emerging here.
Just horrible. No reason for this fuckery. I'd clean house when this is over, put in officer and senior NCO/warrant officer survivors in planning cells to nip this shit in the bud should it happen again. Too many young men are dying due to older officers' incompetency.
 
Literally the Ethan Ralph of world leaders.
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Sometimes to make him feel better, I would pay Joko Widodo pretend to be me at meetings. Joko is 5'8 so Putin thought he was 6 inches taller. I'd also pay Joko to hang out with Joe Biden sometimes. Because he speaks Indonesian, he would just sit and nod to Joe's anecdotes without giving nonverbal indications that he was listening to a retarded person.
 
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