Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
    694
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"The Adults are back"

And it's terrifying.

I've talked to people from the west who are seriously talking no fly zones and war, and it seems a few stupid "Adults" and """Experts""" on twitter are entertaining this idea.

The most sober and measured politics during the Cold War being done under the WW2 Generation is no coincidence, they didn't LARP out some capeshit fantasy of wars that would kill hundreds of millions if not wipe out all human life.

Americans and Russians should be out on the streets RIGHT NOW making sure these monsters know that Nuclear war is NOT on the table.

/Pol/ had a thread earlier sharing screenshots of Twitter retards advocating for nuclear war with Russia, and how nuclear winter is nbd.

It's scary how quickly people are falling for the mainstream media bullshit for the second time in three years, after they tried to divide and conquor people with racism during the Black-Lives-Matter riots of 2020.

It's insane how fast people have gone from wanting to save lives in a pandemic to screaming for Russian blood. And it's even worse when you see supposedly right leaning people who should know better after the past 2 years of lies falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
 
Apparently 141 countries voted to condemn Russia at the United Nations. Russia's feelings are assumed to be very hurt.
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Yes, the UN will UN-NAZI the world.

Speaking of which, I like how loyal Syria and Uncle Assad is to Mother Russia.

That is what we call fucking loyalty.

Also China, India and Pakistan want no part of this shit, given all three own nuclear weapons while Israel betrayed Russia.
 
https://www.linternaute.com/actuali...ivez-son-allocution-sur-la-guerre-en-ukraine/ -> A small résumé in french.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKZOs98-21w -> His speech.

TL;DR : More bullshit propaganda as usual and we, his subjects, are going to take an economical, moral and civilizational/democratical hit with this war and the events that are coming with it. Now open the spoiler at your own risk(im a borderline dislexic)but I did what i could to translate, transcript AND trim the bullshit. Red part is me.

Refugees, civilians victims. We stand by Ukrain, we salut you and give a fraternal support to its president. I have been an excellent negociator with Putin for months and I was not alone because Biden was here. Putin is the sole responsible for this war, we did not wanted it. Presence of NATO and néo-Nazi in Ukrain is false. The Russian governement is attacking the memories of te nazi and the soviets. France/Nato and Europe answerd firmly and like ONE man. We supported Ukrain with military equipments and humanitarian ways. Bla bla. Russia is a fringe country now, the UN condemnned firmly this invasion and the international community showed its unity. Boycot boycot, we will continue de push other nations to pressur Russia into a ceas-fire and to condamn the invasion + to respect humanitarian operation in Ukrain. Sanctions were taken quickly(fund, bank accounts,), SWIFT exclusion, Rubl dropping. Embassy moved, helped is given to bi-nationals who seek to leave the territory. Thanks journalists (Understand : Thanks propagandistes). Thanks to the OTAN members for their protections, thanks for the reinforcements in Poland and Baltic stats. Several hundreds of french soldier arrived in Romania yesterday. Now he is saying that all of this will intensify in order to stop the fight BUT WE ARE NOT WAR WITH RUSSIA. Muh Soviets saved Europe from the Abyss but we are today with all the Russians that against the war. Muh I will speak as much with Putin as I do with Zelinsky in order to convince him to stop all of this and more, to avoid that the conflict spills over(Fuck me, still 6 minutes of his blathering). Everyone is alreay upset and more changed are coming. Europe is in shamble : "I will have the opportunity to come back to that again soon". Hundreds of thousand of refugees will be taken, France will take its share and I thanks evrey city, town and associations that are preparing to take in the refugees in the best condition possible. More good feeeling toward refugees. We will take kids orphaned of their fathers whom stayed behind fighting. Our different economical sectors are suffering and are going to suffer even more du to sanction and the Urkain war, our growth is going to take a hit. Raw resources prices are going up will have conceconces on buying-power(Heating, electricity, gaz, oil etc.). "In face of those economical and social concequences I will only have one compas : To protect you.". His governement will try to find other sources of importation(USA, Europe, Middle-East) and muh promises that will find more. His ministeries are working on a Plan de Resiliance to answers those challenges. BUT DOT NOT FOOL YOURSELF, these event are turning point in history, war in Europe is here again under your very eyes. Muh Democracy ! Our children's freedom is something we need to fight for again. Now we must take historical decision, the budget of the Defense is going to get a boost on many front. Europe now must pay the price of freedom and peace. Europe needs to be more independant and be sovereign/souveraine(every sector). New European Plan of Relance(to restart the economy, to prop it up) to promote a new economical model based on independance and progress. Energy first(LMAO, see "L'affaire Alstom", this man is a Tartuffe and a sell-out). New nuclear reactor incoming and green energy sources coming too. Now about peace, we need an army ready to face any army or threat so Europe needs to take a new direction : Versaille, the 10th and 11th of march will reunite europeans stats leaders in order to decide what to do in that regard. Muh "Unity", Muh "New Era", "We must continue". My dear compatriots, you are afraid but this war will impose us to take decision and I will give you feed back. This war is shambling our democratic life and our electoral campaign. We will be united despite the differences betweens us, "I know I can count on you" and MUh Liberté, égalité, fraternité and Muh "The place of France in the world". "I will never cease to fight for those values" and "Vive la République et Viva la France"

My apologies for the autistic transcript of his speech and my apologies if this has already been posted. Have a nice evening. :)
Oh boy, can you smell the suicides from the farmers already?
 
Sounds almost similar to what the Democrats did during the 2020 election season.

Release all the thugs, intentionally make the justice system resemble something out of the Congo, lie blatantly through the media and allowing innocents to die and lose their livelihoods.

Speaking of which, this scene from a Russian movie over how they think of their enemies wanting to fuck them every now and then.

Russian movies especially near the end of the USSR and after have far more nuanced and human depictions of Hitler like the Germans do. Because it is a nation which suffered far more from him then others, I think there's a tendency to have more of a sober analysis of Hitler's personality rather then a clown or a cartoon character.

 
Globohomo aint gonna drop it 3 weeks from now. When they eventually do, it will be because Russia is prostrate at their feet and they can rape it as they please anyway or because Russia gives big concessions
Which is why Russia has nothing to lose and why they went ahead with this whole plan in the first place. They had to either make their stand or be chipped away piece by piece. Russia's position and its actions are entirely understandable if you're not a partisan hack.
 
Has it been blamed on Russia yet? Honestly could be either side, both militaries are using decades old tech that belongs in museums but given all the hohol frinedly fire I wouldn't be shocked if it was a Ukrainian that shot it.
Roma gov said it was due to weather. I know Doomers here want WW3 to start because it’s easier then necking to get to the anime world, but the investigation alone of the wreck will take more time then the entire war and even then 99% confirmed to shitty weather, shitty equipment and shitty pilots.
 
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If I end up being totally wrong on this one, everyone can feel free to point and laugh at me, but there's something off about these ones.

Like, the Heli is too clean. I see no real battle damage, or even any real signs of a hard landing crash. This is what military helicopter crash wreckage usually looks like:

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The fact that it looks pristine with no damage, just sitting there in the field is just odd to me. Like, if this is true, did the helicopter start running low on fuel so they just landed and hoofed it out of there? Did they have double engine failure but still managed to perform a perfect autorotation (but couldn't deploy their landing gear for some reason?). Was this just a Russian staging area where there were a lot of helicopters, and this one had mechanical issues so they just left it behind?

There are a lot of questions that make this odd to me, which could only be explained by extraordinary Russian logistics incompetence or Ukrainian PsyOps. I'll be interested to learn which it is, either way.
 
One thing i hate more than wokesters as a eastern european is someone who lives comfortably preaching about national pride to the bottom 60-70% of the people who get ass raped and mercilessly exploited by oligarchy. He is right majority of those in the army are piss poor fuckers that the army was only option for making a decent living and buncha conscripts who got forced into this fuckery give them less deadly alternative and majority of them will surrender also most of them have some skills that EU needs anyways.
One thing I hate is someone assuming how I live.

People don't stay on in the Russian army as contractors unless they are passionate about it or unless they have zero skills otherwise. For the former, it's the love of being in the army (usually having at least one screw loose) and for the latter it's either be a soldier, or be a security guard in some liquor store.

What skills that they can offer does the EU need?
 
Why risk more casualties bum rushing a city when you can encircle it and wait. Not like the russians don't have air superiority
I think you are greatly simplifying how hard it is to "encircle a city, and wait".

Beyond that Russia can't wait. It's been a week of war now. If this drags on another few weeks and they are still stuck outside Mariople, Karkiv and Kiev, then Ukraine will have had enough time to start fielding its war time regiments. They also don't have air superiority. Their shit is taking a pounding from the Javelines and Stingers, and the Ukraine Air Force is still flying.

Russia has at best 3 more weeks to seal the deal or its going to be in a nasty protracted war they didn't bring enough troops in to fight. Putin is going to have to order general mobilization in Russia and call up his reserves. That is not going to go over well domestically.
 
It amazes me that it took only like 3 days for people to go from just supporting Ukraine to
"REEEEEEE BULLY ALL RUSKIES, DAT WILL SHOW LE HECKIN EVIL PUTINERINO!!!!!!!!!"
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By the end of next week somewhere in the West there will be Kristallnacht directed towards Russians, I'm calling it now.
You forget a majority of people are drones for propaganda, and can't think for themselves. They're the perfect subject people who will happily lynch someone one day if they are told their problems will be gone and the next act remorseful and give away all their possessions if they are told that will make up for the lynching and bring them absolvation.
Russian movies especially near the end of the USSR and after have far more nuanced and human depictions of Hitler like the Germans do. Because it is a nation which suffered far more from him then others, I think there's a tendency to have more of a sober analysis of Hitler's personality rather then a clown or a cartoon character.

I wish we had that in the west, moreso for all high ranking Nazis and chracters modeled after them in general. I'm sick of the same copy paste Nazi bad guy in every movie. I prefer to know how Hans Somethinggermanberg became an SS General, not 'Ze Jews and Bolsheviks vill all be destroyed vth zis wunderwaffe!'

Downfall is probably one of the best WW2 movies out there for this reason, and it helps it isn't produced by Hollywood.
 
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This is a really nice explanation on why people get so fucking rabid when you as much as mention that you're doing something in an "unconventional" manner and will try to change your mind in an extremely condescending and/or aggressive manner. Pre-Ukraine examples being- using an older OS, loving big government, or anything related to the covid vaxxxx.
 
I wonder if this have been posted here. Apparently somewhat discount Diablo clone devs decided to raise up the price for their game on Steam.
HOWEVER, not on GOG. :suffering:

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>We don't blame Russians, we are all brothers and sisters. It is the government that is to blame. That's why we are implementing a measure that will only hurt regular Russians, and not said government.
It's all so tiresome.

Speaking of GOG (and other Western online stores in general), if you're Russian you can still buy shit from them, as long as your bank is not one of those hit with sanctions. It may take you a day or two to set up a new account, but that's all there is to it.
Also in case of software, you can always just pirate it.
 
/Pol/ had a thread earlier sharing screenshots of Twitter retards advocating for nuclear war with Russia, and how nuclear winter is nbd.



It's insane how fast people have gone from wanting to save lives in a pandemic to screaming for Russian blood. And it's even worse when you see supposedly right leaning people who should know better after the past 2 years of lies falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
What's even crazier to me, as someone who lived through 9/11, is that it's actually happened faster than the demonizing of Arabs and the middle east did after that.
 
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