Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Matt Damon]

But somehow people have this weird idea that it's ok when Russia does it to it's own population to stoke irrational fear and paranoia of the west. Their NPCs get programmed too. It's all a load of horseshit. All of it.

It's not about whether they're deceived or not - it's what they're likely to do and support given what they believe.

People in the west are fucking morons duped by government and media, but that doesn't mean I'm not concerned they're going to start World War III out of idiocy.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

You think it's a secret that Russians have been afraid of invasions out of the west for 700 years? It's not

Although those invasions have always failed whether it was Germans or Swedes or French or Germans again, the Huns and Mongols coming from the east were the invasions that were actually successful

If hurr durr we afraid justifies Vlad daddy's excellent blunder that has made all of Europe afraid of him - and not in the 'we're so afraid we don't dare cross him' way, more like 'we're so afraid we must hurt him as badly as we can with our Murican frens so he can't do it to us' - I guess Muricans being afraid of jihadis under the bed justifies kicking Saddam's shit in and unleashing 20 years of multifaceted Muslim civil war across two continents too. We were afraid! So it's all good

It doesn't necessarily actually justify it, but in their minds it does, which is just as relevant.

 

[Maurice Caine]

Useful for what? Taking several days to get to Chicago?

Real shit video but at its prime it was one of the best railways in the world. Well, used to be. Doesn't exist now.

 

[BradCarter]

In Lvov, a foreigner blocks Ukrainians from entering a train going to Poland by threatening them with a knife, and only allows his buddies to pass (link)

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Project Mayhem is still ongoing then, eh?

 

[IKOL]

Boring AF false flag, after all the bullshit these past few years I demand at least an assassinated globo.

It's unfortunate but Soros is going to outlive us all.
Shame.

Also,sorry if that was there, but check this:

War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity Committed by the Ukrainian Military-Political Leadership in Donbass - Permanent Mission of the Russian Federation to the United Nations Office in Geneva

Presentation Ukrainian War Crimes : The Saker : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Report on Ukrainian atrocities

archive.org

Deliberately taken from one of discord servers.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Depends, If we go what i've heard called "multipolar" or whatever, the idea of a china/russia/x alignment could be pretty important to offset any sanctions. The bank stuff and shutdown of air space to russia will/has fucked them up pretty bad already. It makes me wonder how prepared russia was going into this, did they divest of the ruble (i've read about them shorting that.. not sure how that works or if it's even possible)

No matter what though, it has hurt them. But in ways, the price of oil for one, there are probably offsets.

And I also wonder if we’re going to see Russians be forced into things like the Russian Mafia, or Russian terrorists attack the West in retaliation for all this shit, or if Chechen separatists will mobilize and attack since all these actions have affected their interests.

Putin knew exactly how and who in the west would respond.

He was right.

I have spent a couple of hours a day before naps calling my globohomo buddies to make sure we all tweet about how we hate Russia. Now twitter and reddit users are saying mean things about him.

Meanwhile, /pol/ is sending coordinates of a Ukrainian unit position that was also being considered the site of a pride parade. Air strikes and snipers on standby.

 

[Shidoshi]

Other than the link saying that they fire from schools

You haven't provided any proof Hamas fires from schools.

lol I just browsed the front page and realized it's a pro Israeli propaganda site. Right on cue, just after I said it was Israeli propaganda you respond by sending me a link to a pro Israeli NGO site.

 

[NJBear]

Gas in my area went up 20 cents in 2 days.

 

[Toothpaste]

Female looters in Kherson demonstrate causality.

Spoiler: Cause

Spoiler: Effect

Directed by Robert B. Weide​

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

Zelensky claimed the Babi Yar was damaged but a jew reporter for some news site based in Tel Aviv went there and found no damage:

Babi Yar memorial said to be undamaged by Russian missile strike

archived 2 Mar 2022 21:21:32 UTC

archive.ph

 

[Jump]

A Ukrainian Finance Portal Minfin (short for Ministry of Finance, but it's not actually a government ministry) has published a list detailing all the companies currently sanctioning Russia and/or withdrawing from the Russian market. There are some pretty big brands that Russians will have to do without:

Spoiler: Full list

Apple Pay - blocking cooperation with banks on the sanctions list

Apple - complete exit from the market

ASOS - stopped delivering goods

Adidas - refusal to work with the national football team

Audi - out of the market

AMD - Microchip Supply Ban and Preparing for Video Card Supply Ban

Amazon - a complete block of all retail

Adobe - Full Block

British Petrolium - 20% of shares left Rosneft

BBC revocation of broadcast licenses

BMW - plant closures, supply lockdown

Bolt exiting the market

Boeing - exit from the market

Chevrolet - exit from the market

Cannes Festival - block of the Russian delegation

Cadillac exiting the market

Carlsberg - export restriction

Cex Io - ban Russian users

Cinema 4D - application not working

Coca Cola exiting the market

Danone exits the market with its subsidiary Prostokvashino

Disney bans all films

Dell - exiting the market

Dropbox - leaving after a few days

DHL - exit from the market

Eurovision - disqualification

Ericsson exiting the market

Exxon Mobil recalls all specialists from Russian oil companies

Etsy - block of all balances on Russian accounts

Facebook - ban of Russian media accounts

FedEx - complete ban on deliveries

Formula 1 - cancellation of the tournament in Sochi

Ford - Closing all stores

FIFA - disqualification of the national team at the World Cup and a ban on holding any international matches in the Russian Federation

Google Pay - partial block

Google Maps - info block for Russia

General Motors - export stop

HP - Import Prohibition

Harley Davidson - stop deliveries

Instagram - blocking propaganda

Intel - microchip supply ban

IHerb - Suspension

Jaguar exiting the market

Jooble - uninstall service

KUNA - exit from the market

Lenovo - exit from the market

LinkedIn - preparing for a full exit from the country

Mastercard - suspension of card production, shutdown of sanctioned banks

Maersk - stop deliveries to / from the Russian Federation - goodbye to consumer goods with Ali express and ASOS

Mercedes - out of the country

Megogo - delete all Russian movies

Metro - dismissal of 10 thousand employees

Mitsubishi - dismissal of employees of 141 service centres

Microsoft Office - a wide range of measures under discussion

Mobile World Congress - refusal of accreditation for a delegation from the Russian Federation

NFT - a block of funds from users of Russia and Belarus, transferring their money to Ukraine

NHL - full block for players from the Russian Federation

Nemiroff - revocation of a production license

Netflix - block for Russian subscriptions, stop production of Russian TV series

Nike - Closing all stores

Nintendo - a ban on purchases in rubles

Nestle - closing of all 6 factories in Russia

OnlyFans - country closure

Paysera - blocking

PayPal - freezing accounts for withdrawal

Paramount - film distribution block

Parimatch - franchise recall

Play Station - restriction for Russian users

Pornhub - ban on access to content

Porsche - leaving the market

Renault - exit from the market

Samsung pay - service blocking

Siemens - stop work on all new projects

Snapchat - out of the app in the Russian Federation and Belarus

Scania - exit from the Russian Federation

Shell - termination of the contract with Gazprom

Spotify - Unable to pay for a subscription

Sony - film distribution block

Twitter - restriction on registration of accounts for citizens of the Russian Federation

TikTok - mass ban of aggressive users and so-called media

Toyota - dismissal of 2,600 employees

UEFA - the cancellation of the Champions League final in St. Petersburg, a ban on all clubs from participating in the Champions League and the Champions League, termination of the contract with the general sponsor Gazprom

UPS - Total Shutdown

Universal pictures - film distribution block

Visa - blocking banks under sanctions

Volvo - leaving the market

Yandex - exclusion of company shares from quotations on the NY stock exchange

YouTube - blocking hundreds of RF channels and their monetization

Warner Bros cancels all film distribution

Webmoney - prohibition of transactions

Volkswagen - exit from the market

Zoom - Software Development License Revocation

Международные компании и бренды, которые послали Россию туда, куда уже пошел российский корабль

Из-за фашистской агрессии против Украины российский рынок массово покидают международные компании.

minfin.com.ua

Paypal and Etsy are just strait up keeping the money in the russians accounts. So the little guy who has no control over anything gets fucked by US tech companies. This is how you win Hearts and Minds.

 

[Übertroon]

Laugh at this fucking moron

 

[Margo Martindale]

seethe lol the un itself admitted hamas stores weapons in its schools https://unwatch.org/un-admits-palestinians-fired-rockets-unrwa-schools/


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Propaganda inflating heroic deeds during times of war is a strategy as old as war and the printing press, not exactly a groundbreaking realization.

 

[PittyKitty]

One thing I absolutely hate about the Ukraine fanboys in this thread is the weird personalization of geopolitics they do.

“Russia is a bully”
“Russia is a jilted lover”
“Russia just doesn’t want to let Ukrainians make their own choices”

It’s bizarre. Russia probably believes that allowing Ukraine to become another American puppet in Eastern Europe is destructive to its long term interests. Putin is paranoid and a gambler, so he opted for a preemptive attack when he saw NATO and Ukraine do joint military exercises in 2021 and saw the writing on the wall.

Just for everybody’s information: countries that aren’t great powers are not actually sovereign and are generally indirectly ruled by great powers. America successfully seized power in Ukraine a decade ago, and now Russia is trying to take it back. “Ukrainian independence” is meaningless and whoever controls media in Ukraine will manufacture public opinion in the long term.

Its easy to say that but Eastern European countries still remember how life looked like under Ruskies. It ended about 30 years ago, people who were alive back then are still alive now.
No one wants to live like that willingly.
Not if there is a choice.

If it was any other country then propably Ukraineans wouldn't give much fucks, as long as they d treat them humanely.

 

[Mr Snek]

I don't understand why anyone cares. I would have thought Vietnam would have taught the western world to stop caring about foreign conflicts, but I suppose the war propaganda machine is still working.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Laugh at this fucking moron
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Ok this is officially the dumbest take of the whole war, and that includes the no fly zone tards.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

But you're saying things that are almost provably false. They are shelling some cities indiscriminately with artillery, not smart bombs. Just because they don't have the capacity to do 1,000 sorties doesn't necessarily mean that they're being careful. You may be attributing to compassion what could be better attributed to current inability.

They're not shelling indiscriminately, that's literally a lie. If they were shelling indiscriminately Ukrainian cities would be rubble and there would be massive casualties the media would make sure we knew about. I doubt Russia are suddenly incapable of what they did in Chechnya, they're currently more powerful than they were then.

I'm not attributing anything to compassion, I think they probably wanna prop up a friendly regime when they topple the current one and killing 10's of thousands of Ukrainians and destroying cities wouldn't engender any sympathy for that. They want the Ukrainian army intact as a potential ally, hence the encirclements and not destroying the encircled forces. I'm not an expert, it's just my schizo theory but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Margo Martindale]

They did, to be fair they were literal Chads.

The Arabs fear facing someone like General Butt Naked

 

[Übertroon]

In Lvov, a foreigner blocks Ukrainians from entering a train going to Poland by threatening them with a knife, and only allows his buddies to pass (link)

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And this is why you don't let non whites into your country

 

[Hüftpriester]

But somehow people have this weird idea that it's ok when Russia does it to it's own population to stoke irrational fear and paranoia of the west. Their NPCs get programmed too. It's all a load of horseshit. All of it.

Have you been paying attention Western politics for the last 6 years? Russia has every reason to be paranoid of the West. They're portrayed as the new boogeyman in place of Islamic terrorists. The only difference is America and her allies wouldn't be able to curbstomp Russia like they're Iraq or Libya.