Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Lord of the Large Pants]

As I said earlier in this thread, the Russians did poor soldier-for-soldier against a similar enemy when they attacked Georgia in 2008. The point is, fighting on the home ground and having a NATO-trained former Soviet army won't matter much when you are against an enemy that is better armed and bigger at the end of the day.
But check any news like CNN and they have nothing but "UKRAINIAN RESISTANCE FIGHTERS BEAT BACK 58 DIVISIONS SINGLE HANDEDLY!"
Then the next day we see the front line map move another 10 miles inward. And if you think Russian conscripts can't fight well, how is a literal jailbird handed a gun going to do against even a basic trained soldier?

Criminals may be less hesitant to take life than conscripts.

Not saying that's definitely how it will go, just something to consider.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Sitrep as of right now

 

[ColtWalker1847]

so how likely is the sceneraio were everyone takes a step back into a cease fire with similar conditions to what ukraine was similar to what it was like before and we kick the can a few years more with the possibility of it all happening again?

It seems stupid for either nato and the eu to burden themselves to insert another future deadbeat like ukraine and for russia to annex the whole thing is a much bigger headeache than just getting his neutral buffer zone. Honestly for all the sperging and propaganda i doubt that anyone really wants ukraine.

I figure Russia declares a ceasefire once they drive organized Ukrainian troops out of the areas they want in the east and south. The Ukrainian rump state has no choice but to accept it as they can't drive them out. Taking and holding the whole enchilada just doesn't seem desirable to me. Especially as the locals out west are extremely not fond of Russians.

 

[make_it_so]

so how likely is the sceneraio were everyone takes a step back into a cease fire with similar conditions to what ukraine was similar to what it was like before and we kick the can a few years more with the possibility of it all happening again?

It seems stupid for either nato and the eu to burden themselves to insert another future deadbeat like ukraine and for russia to annex the whole thing is a much bigger headeache than just getting his neutral buffer zone. Honestly for all the sperging and propaganda i doubt that anyone really wants ukraine.

The ideal scenario is that we get peace, Russia withdraws, and there is agreement on all sides that Ukraine will be like Austria - economically close to Europe and otherwise completely neutral - and that the Eastern Ukraine issues are resolved by dialing back the Bandera-worshiping and a general federal reform that gives greater autonomy to all of Ukraine's provinces.

But we probably won't get the ideal scenario because too many egos of very powerful people would suffer from it.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Do you ever get the feeling the powerful lament the bomb?

Like the fact that there is an "We both lose" button changes everything.

Biden doesn't care about those he would send to die, but sending them to die would move the nuclear clock a little closer to midnight.

Once again, like with gunpowder weapons, technology has equalized the human existence by forcing our superiors to be in the splashdamage of retaliation.

Honestly, I’d say nuking is only a deterrent if you feel like it is one, and you don’t care about what happens next. I mean, I have no doubt in my mind Iran would launch nukes at America or Israel if they could get away with it the minute they could do it.

I think China would launch at anyone who they think would foil their plans to take over the world.

I’m not sure if Putin would do it. He may be pushed to the brink, but he’s pretty methodical in terms of what he does, and he doesn’t seem petty as shit to just get one on his enemies.

 

[Richardface]

Given the sanctions scorched earth, is there anything restraining Putler from taking Georgia next?

 

[The golden neckbeard]

I figure Russia declares a ceasefire once they drive organized Ukrainian troops out of the areas they want in the east and south. The Ukrainian rump state has no choice but to accept it as they can't drive them out. Taking and holding the whole enchilada just doesn't seem desirable to me. Especially as the locals out west are extremely not fond of Russians.

The way NATO is arming them they have no choice but to take it to the Polish border. Russia can't let a Ukraine light arm up or agitate an insurgency.

Stopping the war wont lift sanctions. Putin might aswell take it all.

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

Plus with the kung flu hitting them hard, I don't know why the GOP is obsessed with stopping abortions when abortions are why niggers share of the population has been still static for a long time while Hispanics and Asians grow larger.

Same reason all of Twitter and Reddit sound the same. Because their masters told them "this is your opinion." They can't think through the implications because the thinking has been done for them and that's that.

 

[Butcher Pete]

Bro we literally are dismantling 155 million peoples currency, stealing property and going as far as banning atheletes and travel.

This is more serouis than you think. Even Iraqi Air-ways was free to fly over Saudi arabia and could play in Soccer leagues


This is fucking Cancel Culture on a national level. Russia is now your canceled youtube guy, you never hear from him again. he may pop up on Bitchute but nobody knows he still exists

The internet went from outright stealing the Daily Stormer domain name and canceling Anglin over a fat girl joke in 2017 to canceling and American president in 2020 to canceling an entire country in 2022.

We're at the point now where getting canceled gets you fired from your job, gets your bank account closed, and causes payment processors to refuse you service. There was talk (and some action) on not allowing the unvaxxed into fucking GROCERY STORES, for fuck's sake.

Being canceled is an assault on your person. It really is no different from robbing someone and attempting to starve them to death. And some point, a majority of people are going to understand that and will react accordingly, with actual violence and not "literal violence."

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Given the sanctions scorched earth, is there anything restraining Putler from taking Georgia next?

Nope

I was thinking that, Moldova and Russian parts of Kazakhstan and he could wrap it up

 

[Psychotron]

Oh shit, now Putin is gonna suffer the wraith of PETA
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Also it must suck to be that gorilla since they're supposed to be social animals.

The ghost of keiv spotted riding war elephant

 

[MrJokerRager]

It is. We don't have a JFK, Johnson, Nixon or Reagan. Even Bush 41, Carter and Ford would not have let this shit get to this point. All were men who had know war as soldiers. What we have is a dementia ridden fool who got deferments so he thinks its a game, it's in the abstract for him. Harris is just a ho and Pelosi a drunk grifter, Our leaders are going to fuck everything up because that's all they know how to do.

Pelosi and Harris are proof needed for why the Bible forbids women to be political leaders.

All those ancient old white sexist men who wrote the bible probably knew wtf they were talking about when they wrote that.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

The internet went from outright stealing the Daily Stormer domain name and canceling Anglin over a fat girl joke in 2017 to canceling and American president in 2020 to canceling an entire country in 2022.

We're at the point now where getting canceled gets you fired from your job, gets your bank account closed, and causes payment processors to refuse you service. There was talk (and some action) on not allowing the unvaxxed into fucking GROCERY STORES, for fuck's sake.

Being canceled is an assault on your person. It really is no different from robbing someone and attempting to starve them to death. And some point, a majority of people are going to understand that and will react accordingly, with actual violence and not "literal violence."

Russian's banned from Playstation and Xbox now also

 

[Matt Damon]

After a while it was "Wait until they die first, OK?"

Imagine if you lived through the siege after doing that.

How could you ever hope to function as a normal human being ever again?

 

[apolloday]

What shattered my will to live for a little bit was the idea they had to put out, i guess "flyers" to explain to them that eating their kids wasn't very cash money of them. They were starving so bad they had to be told to not eat their kids. THEY WERE EATING THEIR FUCKING KIDS!!!

>mfw babushka come home early because she forgot her turnip peeler

 

[The golden neckbeard]

bro's?

 

[The Other Baldwin]

Brainrot indeed. I don't know why you Putinbros are so touchy. You're obviously going to win. It isn't my fault they're half-assing it. Take that up with your drunken generals and 70 IQ soldiers.

You just don't get it...and that's okay. If we didn't have retards in here, it would be an echo chamber. I hate echo chambers. Welcome fellow 'tard!
(I agree with your post on some level, but I had to laugh and get at you a bit, you've been trolling for awhile.)

Russian's banned from Playstation and Xbox now also

Looks like fake news and they are just "demanding" it. Which is still news. Always quote your sources my man.

Ukrainian official calls for Xbox, PlayStation, and others to bar Russian players amid invasion

Ukraine’s deputy prime minister urges Microsoft, Sony, and others to take action

www.polygon.com

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Stopping the war wont lift sanctions. Putin might aswell take it all.

Don’t be so sure about that. Plebs won’t care what sanctions stick and what are lifted if the war ends.

It’s a great bargain chip and is an amazing tool for potential peace.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

You just don't get it...and that's okay. If we didn't have retards in here, it would be an echo chamber. I hate echo chambers. Welcome fellow 'tard!
(I agree with your post on some level, but I had to laugh and get at you a bit, you've been trolling for awhile.)

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Looks like fake news and they are just "demanding" it. Which is still news. Always quote your sources my man.

Ukrainian official calls for Xbox, PlayStation, and others to bar Russian players amid invasion

Ukraine’s deputy prime minister urges Microsoft, Sony, and others to take action

www.polygon.com

Wont be long. Think Microsoft already said no more updates for Russian IP addresses

 

[MichaelScarn]

Major power outages being reported out of Taiwan.