Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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IamnottheNSA said:
I blame Reddit's Molotov cocktail recipe sharing (and how "it totes working against modern tanks, trust me bro").
Reddit's got blood on their hands, far more so than Kiwi Farms. We need to step up our game.
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It's strange to me. Some otherwise very intelligent people I talk to were adamant that training civilians to make improvised incendiaries and make them think they can attack armored vehicles wasn't irresponsible, though my argument was less the inherent ineffectiveness of those against modern armored vehicles (cold war armored vehicles really, their protection was made to a standard where they could be covered in napalm for some time and still survive to drive away from the fire) and more that militarizing civilians is a bloody minded and irresponsible move that will result in them getting killed and enemy soldiers getting wary and overreacting to civilians because, even though hitting an armored vehicle with a molotov cocktail is likely to do nothing but look scary, throwing one at a person is at the least going to injure them severely, and once one soldier sees his buddy get third degree burns all over his body because he didn't pull the trigger on somebody in civilian clothes they won't think twice next time they have to ponder that decision.

This isn't hard to get. The thing civilians should be doing is either moving away from the war zone, or hiding, or if they feel they absolutely must be doing something, at least joining a volunteer organization where they can help, instead of trying to do something they don't know how to do, which is fight in a modern war. There's a refugee situation. People need help, and you hardly have to go kill people or get killed to help your countrymen. I'd say that the most helpful thing they could do in a fight is leave the fighting up to, you know, the trained soldiers who instead of bottles full of flammables only effective within throwing distance have a metric ass load of anti-tank missiles purpose built to destroy everything from trucks to tanks, and know how to use them.

I don't really know. I chalk it up to being altogether too trusting of the media and friendly-oriented propaganda. Which is what I'm thinking or maybe just hoping all this about arming civilians and training them on molotov cocktails is anyways in the grand scheme of things, even if it's inspiring some people to take extreme risks where they shouldn't.
 
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Johnny Salami said:
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Maybe some kind of support role would work, but this kid was talking about combat. Even if he did have experience with a gun I don't know how much help some tourist who doesn't understand Ukrainian would be to the Ukrainians. I expect most Ukrainians know English as a second language, but you can't expect them to hobble their own communications just so some yank can play wars too.
 
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Freezard said:
It's strange to me. Some otherwise very intelligent people I talk to were adamant that training civilians to make improvised incendiaries and make them think they can attack armored vehicles wasn't irresponsible, though my argument was less the inherent ineffectiveness of those against modern armored vehicles (cold war armored vehicles really, their protection was made to a standard where they could be covered in napalm for some time and still survive to drive away from the fire) and more that militarizing civilians is a bloody minded and irresponsible move that will result in them getting killed and enemy soldiers getting wary and overreacting to civilians because, even though hitting an armored vehicle with a molotov cocktail is likely to do nothing but look scary, throwing one at a person is at the least going to injure them severely, and once one soldier sees his buddy get third degree burns all over his body because he didn't pull the trigger on somebody in civilian clothes they won't think twice next time they have to ponder that decision.

This isn't hard to get. The thing civilians should be doing is either moving away from the war zone, or hiding, or if they feel they absolutely must be doing something, at least joining a volunteer organization where they can help, instead of trying to do something they don't know how to do, which is fight in a modern war. There's a refugee situation. People need help, and you hardly have to go kill people or get killed to help your countrymen. I'd say that the most helpful thing they could do in a fight is leave the fighting up to, you know, the trained soldiers who instead of bottles full of flammables only effective within throwing distance have a metric ass load of anti-tank missiles purpose built to destroy everything from trucks to tanks, and know how to use them.

I don't really know. I chalk it up to being altogether too trusting of the media and friendly-oriented propaganda. Which is what I'm thinking or maybe just hoping all this about arming civilians and training them on molotov cocktails is anyways in the grand scheme of things, even if it's inspiring some people to take extreme risks where they shouldn't.
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Me thinks the media is encouraging because if say some dumbass redditor goes there and gets gunned down as you will, then that country could use him to convince his countrymen they have skin in the game
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Granted I doubt many will got but all it takes is one highly regarded individual who bought into the propaganda to cause shit
 
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They already conscripted everybody. There is no need for useless western reddit troons with no skills and who don't know the language to fill out support roles. They have all the people there to do that and who can do it better.

Make them designated molotov-throwers or something. Literal meat-shields. Stack them up like the dead gooks in korea as a makeshift parapet. That's about as much use they can be in a fight and even then some people are less useful than a self-deploying sandbag.
 
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One wonders how long European solidarity will last if this pans out

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Johnny Salami said:
Me thinks the media is encouraging because if say some dumbass redditor goes there and gets gunned down as you will, then that country could use him to convince his countrymen they have skin in the game
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I have noticed something interesting in the media in my country though. There is little to no mention of the actual Ukie military, but there is laser-focus on civ volunteers and militia. If you only listened to the radio or the BBC, you could be forgiven for believing that this war is literally just peasants with fire bombs against the full mailed fist of the Most Foul And Most Evil Fascist Russian Empire. I work alone and listen to current affairs talk radio nearly all day, and I have only heard Ukrainian civ casualty and Russian military casualty figures.
 
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Kane Lives said:
Neocons all deserve to be put in a penal battalion.
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In a troupe who dance on landmines for the amusement of troops or randoms.

I suppose with these Commie warmonger shutins, women's clothes and cutting their dick off isn't enough. They want people they never met or will ever meet to suffer for their own personal issues.
 
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CryptoHermit said:
GRAPHIC: A Ukrainian soldier was looking for asspats online by posting online and Russian opsec recognised the building they were in and shot a rocket into them. 14 dead and unknown wounded.
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I know this is late but this fucktard killed all of his buddies for a selfie. Take Joe's phones away before you go into a combat zone. Zero reason for this to happen.
 
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I know this was dropped, but why do some users write it as THE Ukraine? I guess when' Ukraina is conjugated to Ukraiinska it does make sense... but not really.
 
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