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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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As I've already said before, Putin's stance against "globohomo" is a scam designed to gain support from the right-wing in the West. His country is full of degeneracy, abortion, AIDS, alcohol abuse, and he's done nothing to address such problems. Even if his country didn't just get economically blasted back to the Dark Ages due to the sanctions, even if he and the West got along nicely, the fact that he didn't solve his nation's real problems means that there won't even be a Russia 50 years from now.

He also did not keep Russia in line. He just befriended the oligarchs who sucked the country's economic opportunities dry, and co-opted them with the state. Instead of reigning them in and creating real competition in a market economy, he just made sure that these fat cats can use the state as a shield instead of using mobsters to take out competition. It's basically a mafia state in all but name.

Putin's just butt-mad that his side lost the Cold War and didn't get to become the "globohomo" world hegemony. Not to mention that his whole justification for this war is "MUH UKRAINIAN NAZIS!" and he's also bringing in tons of immigration from third-world countries to make up for his nation's declining population and military. He's just as much a woke activist as the rest of the western world is, he was just better at hiding it from the morons on the internet.


At least American soldiers know when they're going into a combat zone. They don't find out 1 hour before they invade a foreign land.
Second this. Putin had and his puppet republics have tankies and antifatards fighting on their side. Anyone (left or right) who thinks he's the great anti-globohomo prophet is naive at best and a diagnosable tard at worst.
 
Had seen people suggesting that the bombing at some Holocaust memorial site the Babyn Yar was fake/debunked
Ukraine itself debunked it.

"Jewish groups have condemned a missile attack near a Holocaust memorial park"

"However, it is now known that the most iconic memorials in the park are unscathed. These include a large menorah, newly built synagogue and a monument honouring the Soviet citizens and prisoners of war who died, which is located closest to the TV tower."

"A museum building which was not yet in use caught fire, and there is damage across the 140-acre site, such as burnt and uprooted trees, the BBC has been told."


What you are thinking of is the initial coverage where everyone claimed it was hit. Further examination revealed that it hit the radio tower, and a nearby unused building to which the museum later planned to expand to.
 
Because around half of Ukraine is some form of pro Russian. Outside of Chernigov and Kiev, that's where most of the military action us taking place.
Do you think any those people still support Russia after everything that's happened? Bombs and bullets don't have names on them, and rain on both the just and unjust.
 
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International Cat Federation bans Russian cats from competitions​

The International Cat Federation says it has banned Russian cats from its international competitions in the latest rebuke to Russia since it invaded Ukraine last week.
The federation, which considers itself “the United Nations of Cat Federations,” said in a statement that it was “shocked and horrified” that Russian forces had invaded Ukraine and “started a war.” Known as FIFe (for its French name, Fédération Internationale Féline), it said that the measures were decided Tuesday and that officials could not “witness these atrocities and do nothing.”

It said the rule would remain in place until the end of May and would then be reviewed.
“No cat belonging to exhibitors living in Russia may be entered at any FIFe show outside Russia, regardless of which organization these exhibitors hold their membership in,” said the organization, which spans almost 40 countries.


Explosions continue to rock Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, where air raid sirens blare into the night. Fierce battles are raging across the country, and a U.N. agency says 1 million people have been displaced.

Photos taken across Ukraine have shown families abandoning their homes, carrying their children and pets as they flee.

The federation, which was established more than 70 years ago, also said it would not allow cats bred in Russia to be imported or registered in any of its pedigree books. Officials said they would be donating funds to assist cat breeders in Ukraine and thanked neighboring countries for their efforts to help Ukrainian refugees.
According to its website, the federation holds more than 700 shows globally each year, with more than 200,000 cats exhibited from Brazil to the United Kingdom.

Countries around the world have imposed sweeping sanctions on Russia following President Vladimir Putin’s invasion. In the days since the war began, Russia has been banned from numerous events and is becoming increasingly isolated on the world stage.


In a bid to showcase solidarity with Ukraine and its people, countries worldwide have united in their efforts to impose crippling measures on Putin and his allies in Europe and the United States.

ports federations and leagues have aggressively sidelined Russia’s teams and athletes, and boycotts have also rocked Russia’s cultural, entertainment and travel industries.
On social media Thursday, reactions to the federation’s ban — deemed by some as “cat sanctions” — were mixed. Some critics called the move “ridiculous.”
“Russian breeders should not be punished for a war that isn’t of their making,” one user wrote on the federation’s Facebook page.
Others, however, said that any act of solidarity — no matter how small — should be applauded.
“Russian athletes are currently banned from virtually every event. Why should cat breeders/exhibitors not be banned as well?” read one tweet.

 

International Cat Federation bans Russian cats from competitions​

The International Cat Federation says it has banned Russian cats from its international competitions in the latest rebuke to Russia since it invaded Ukraine last week.
The federation, which considers itself “the United Nations of Cat Federations,” said in a statement that it was “shocked and horrified” that Russian forces had invaded Ukraine and “started a war.” Known as FIFe (for its French name, Fédération Internationale Féline), it said that the measures were decided Tuesday and that officials could not “witness these atrocities and do nothing.”

It said the rule would remain in place until the end of May and would then be reviewed.
“No cat belonging to exhibitors living in Russia may be entered at any FIFe show outside Russia, regardless of which organization these exhibitors hold their membership in,” said the organization, which spans almost 40 countries.


Explosions continue to rock Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, where air raid sirens blare into the night. Fierce battles are raging across the country, and a U.N. agency says 1 million people have been displaced.

Photos taken across Ukraine have shown families abandoning their homes, carrying their children and pets as they flee.

The federation, which was established more than 70 years ago, also said it would not allow cats bred in Russia to be imported or registered in any of its pedigree books. Officials said they would be donating funds to assist cat breeders in Ukraine and thanked neighboring countries for their efforts to help Ukrainian refugees.
According to its website, the federation holds more than 700 shows globally each year, with more than 200,000 cats exhibited from Brazil to the United Kingdom.

Countries around the world have imposed sweeping sanctions on Russia following President Vladimir Putin’s invasion. In the days since the war began, Russia has been banned from numerous events and is becoming increasingly isolated on the world stage.


In a bid to showcase solidarity with Ukraine and its people, countries worldwide have united in their efforts to impose crippling measures on Putin and his allies in Europe and the United States.

ports federations and leagues have aggressively sidelined Russia’s teams and athletes, and boycotts have also rocked Russia’s cultural, entertainment and travel industries.
On social media Thursday, reactions to the federation’s ban — deemed by some as “cat sanctions” — were mixed. Some critics called the move “ridiculous.”
“Russian breeders should not be punished for a war that isn’t of their making,” one user wrote on the federation’s Facebook page.
Others, however, said that any act of solidarity — no matter how small — should be applauded.
“Russian athletes are currently banned from virtually every event. Why should cat breeders/exhibitors not be banned as well?” read one tweet.

These sanctions keep cutting so deep they’ll be eating the damn things in a month anyway. China can send over some recipes.
 

International Cat Federation bans Russian cats from competitions​

The International Cat Federation says it has banned Russian cats from its international competitions in the latest rebuke to Russia since it invaded Ukraine last week.
The federation, which considers itself “the United Nations of Cat Federations,” said in a statement that it was “shocked and horrified” that Russian forces had invaded Ukraine and “started a war.” Known as FIFe (for its French name, Fédération Internationale Féline), it said that the measures were decided Tuesday and that officials could not “witness these atrocities and do nothing.”

It said the rule would remain in place until the end of May and would then be reviewed.
“No cat belonging to exhibitors living in Russia may be entered at any FIFe show outside Russia, regardless of which organization these exhibitors hold their membership in,” said the organization, which spans almost 40 countries.


Explosions continue to rock Ukraine’s capital, Kyiv, where air raid sirens blare into the night. Fierce battles are raging across the country, and a U.N. agency says 1 million people have been displaced.

Photos taken across Ukraine have shown families abandoning their homes, carrying their children and pets as they flee.

The federation, which was established more than 70 years ago, also said it would not allow cats bred in Russia to be imported or registered in any of its pedigree books. Officials said they would be donating funds to assist cat breeders in Ukraine and thanked neighboring countries for their efforts to help Ukrainian refugees.
According to its website, the federation holds more than 700 shows globally each year, with more than 200,000 cats exhibited from Brazil to the United Kingdom.

Countries around the world have imposed sweeping sanctions on Russia following President Vladimir Putin’s invasion. In the days since the war began, Russia has been banned from numerous events and is becoming increasingly isolated on the world stage.


In a bid to showcase solidarity with Ukraine and its people, countries worldwide have united in their efforts to impose crippling measures on Putin and his allies in Europe and the United States.

ports federations and leagues have aggressively sidelined Russia’s teams and athletes, and boycotts have also rocked Russia’s cultural, entertainment and travel industries.
On social media Thursday, reactions to the federation’s ban — deemed by some as “cat sanctions” — were mixed. Some critics called the move “ridiculous.”
“Russian breeders should not be punished for a war that isn’t of their making,” one user wrote on the federation’s Facebook page.
Others, however, said that any act of solidarity — no matter how small — should be applauded.
“Russian athletes are currently banned from virtually every event. Why should cat breeders/exhibitors not be banned as well?” read one tweet.

Now this one is just harsh.
 
Am I the only one who reads "pantsir" as "pantsu?"

Also, that convoy is some failboat shit. Am I wrong in thinking that their dudes are sleeping in their vehicles and are probably having some seriously cranky moments? Jesus, imagine the smell of 10 unwashed Slavs smoking and farting in a confined space for three days. I bet the roadside is a literal open sewer by now.
 

Russia's Defense Ministry says 498 of its troops killed in Ukraine, 1,597 wounded in 1st report of military casualties​

Russia's Defense Ministry says 498 of its troops killed in Ukraine, 1,597 wounded in 1st report of military casualties

Russia's Defense Ministry says 498 of its troops killed in Ukraine, 1,597 wounded in 1st report of military casualties.

 
When you can trade your resources with only one actor, that actor can dictate their prices in terms that can't be favourable to you. Europe must stand united against Russia in this issue, there simply is no other way.

Dunno if anyone mentioned it, but China pulled a Sun Tzu on Putin. They're geopolitical allies - since Russia doesn't have many friends on the world stage, they're doing stuff like selling resources to China below market price to buy their friendship, and ignore their shenanigans in Siberia. China doesn't make friends, they're opportunistic cunts taking advantage of relationships.

Basically, I have no doubt that Putin ensured diplomatic support from China in his war on Ukraine. All they had to do is remain neutral and refuse to support any actions against Russia by international community.
In the end, Russia is bashing its head against Ukraine, depletes its military and exposes its weaknesses for everyone to see.
Most importantly, Russia gets economically severed from the West, while China keeps its position. If current trajectory continues, Russia's dependence on China will increase tremendously. It won't be a partnership, China will abuse the fuck out of Russia as they would have little in terms of alternatives. Like they've already been doing all this time.

Never interrupt your enemy "friend" when he is making a mistake. Well, it was Napoleon Bonaparte who said it, actually, not Sun Tzu.
I have little doubt that China has plans on Russia and are just waiting for the opportunity to strike, pull their own Crimea. Perhaps when Russia is at its weakest.
The flaw and danger with this is Imagine if North Korea was the Largest Country on Earth?

Because the largest country on earth has turned itself into North Korea in 7 days.
 

Russia's Defense Ministry says 498 of its troops killed in Ukraine, 1,597 wounded in 1st report of military casualties​

Russia's Defense Ministry says 498 of its troops killed in Ukraine, 1,597 wounded in 1st report of military casualties

Russia's Defense Ministry says 498 of its troops killed in Ukraine, 1,597 wounded in 1st report of military casualties.

Now, I don't believe the Russian numbers for a moment, and I am skeptical of the 9k figure from the Ukrainians - but I do not completely discount it.

So let's bowl down the middle and say there have been 5k killed. I think it's probably higher, but for the same of this it's not relevant.

In Afghanistan and Iraq, the death/casualty ratio for Western forces was pretty high.
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Call it 500 deaths to 8000 casualties. That's a 1-16 ratio. It improved over the war as MERT, better battlefield medical equipment and the Golden Hour were brought in. This isn't counting those who were PoW or lost (numbers were low) due to airpower + Comms.

Russia is going to have a much lower ratio, lack of air dominance means they cannot safely use helicopters to transport their injured. The roads are jammed, vehicles broken and lacking fuel. I can only speculate battlefield emergency medical supplies are poor quality and out of date. I think the ratio in WWII was 1-3 or the like. That's one death for every three casualties, prisoners, lost etc.

Point is, we can speculate what Russia's ratio of deaths to casualties is, I would guess it's closer to WWII than the UK in Afghanistan at the moment. However, even if it is more like 1-5, we could be talking about 25,000 combat ineffective troops on the Russia side and that represents well over 10% of the initial invasion force. That is, they've potentially been decimated in less than a week. If their own ratio is correct it's 15,000, which just under 10% of those who invaded.

Additionally, as posted above a lot of the UK battlefield casualties were due to disease - in wars in non-modern times this was the main cause of casualties, not actually fighting - yet they were well supplied and enforced cleanliness. Russians will likely have neither of these mitigations. So I would predicted lower survival for battlefield casualties, higher POW/Missing/Desertion/Disease. Either way, the Russians could are not doing well right now.
 
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Do you think any those people still support Russia after everything that's happened? Bombs and bullets don't have names on them, and rain on both the just and unjust.
Some people from DNR and LNR still believe Russia started all of this to protect them from Ukraine's aggression, so it's possibe they're moving to Russia now. But everything is such a mess right now and many people just follow propaganda.
 
Do you think any those people still support Russia after everything that's happened? Bombs and bullets don't have names on them, and rain on both the just and unjust.
CRP went on RT to blame the Ukraine government for the invasion, as Kharkiv - the city he and his family live in - was being shelled.

Some people are that deluded.
 
Some people from DNR and LNR still believe Russia started all of this to protect them from Ukraine's aggression, so it's possibe they're moving to Russia now. But everything is such a mess right now and many people just follow propaganda.
I'm waiting for the inevitable bombing of a refugee center set up in Russia or very similar event news, whether it will be actually Azov/Ukraine Government or 100% False Flag will matter little we already know which version is "Fake News" and which is "True News" (Or rather, we know what we'll be told) but for some reason I feel that is inevitable.

Russia says it took in 100 thousand refugees from those two regions if I remember their TV broadcast right.
 
Do you think any those people still support Russia after everything that's happened? Bombs and bullets don't have names on them, and rain on both the just and unjust.
not sure because I don't pay attention. what I can say are those regions have historically been pro Russian, and may have been seriously put down by aggressive Ukrainization.
 
Some people from DNR and LNR still believe Russia started all of this to protect them from Ukraine's aggression, so it's possibe they're moving to Russia now. But everything is such a mess right now and many people just follow propaganda.
I honestly I been seeing Ukraine propaganda and Russia propaganda online since the invasion.
 
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Now, I don't believe the Russian numbers for a moment, and I am skeptical of the 9k figure from the Ukrainians - but I do not completely discount it.

So let's bowl down the middle and say there have been 5k killed. I think it's probably higher, but for the same of this it's not relevant.

In Afghanistan and Iraq, the death/casualty ratio for Western forces was pretty high.
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Call it 500 deaths to 8000 casualties. That's a 1-16 ratio. It improved over the war as MERT, better battlefield medical equipment and the Golden Hour were brought in. This isn't counting those who were PoW or lost (numbers were low) due to airpower + Comms.

Russia is going to have a much lower ratio, lack of air dominance means they cannot safely use helicopters to transport their injured. The roads are jammed, vehicles broken and lacking fuel. I can only speculate battlefield emergency medical supplies are poor quality and out of date. I think the ratio in WWII was 1-3 or the like. That's one death for every three casualties, prisoners, lost etc.

Point is, we can speculate what Russia's ratio of deaths to casualties is, I would guess it's closer to WWII than the UK in Afghanistan at the moment. However, even if it is more like 1-5, we could be talking about 25,000 combat ineffective troops on the Russia side and that represents well over 10% of the initial invasion force. That is, they've potentially been decimated in less than a week. If their own ratio is correct it's 15,000, which just under 10% of those who invaded.

Additionally, as posted above a lot of the UK battlefield casualties were due to disease - in wars in non-modern times this was the main cause of casualties, not actually fighting - yet they were well supplied and enforced cleanliness. Russians will likely have neither of these mitigations. So I would predicted lower survival for battlefield casualties, higher POW/Missing/Desertion/Disease. Either way, the Russians could are not doing well right now.
Historically, the Russkies are not above giving their own wounded a "merciful" bullet and a posthumous decoration. I've seen a few screenshots suggesting this is still happening, but like 99% of what we are seeing, it could be propagandist bullshit, so grain of salt.
 

Director of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service describes Russia-West relations as "quite a hot" war​


Foreign Intelligence Service Director Sergei Naryshkin has said that he finds that relations between Russia and the West are more like a 'hot' war rather than a 'cold' war today.

"Western politicians and commentators like to call what is going on 'a new cold war.' It seems that historical parallels here are not quite appropriate. Not least of all because in the second half of the 20th century, Russia fought against the West in far-off places and now, the war has come close to the very borders of our Motherland," Naryshkin said in a statement on the website of Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service.

"So to us, it is clearly not 'cold' but rather quite 'hot,'" he said.

 
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