Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%

  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%

  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%

  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%
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Corpun said:
I saw some articles the other day about PMC companies setting up in Ukraine to fight, with numbers around 7,000.

Is this true? And who is paying them? I assume it is the government but that just says they're even more desperate than just arming civvies and convicts to shoot eachother. I guess oligarchs might be buying them up in preparation for whatever happens next.
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Assuming the Ukr gov't is paying, it's arguably Western countries funding the mercs by proxy, since the West is throwing billions at Ukraine.
For example: Canada to give $500M loan, send $7.8M in lethal weapons to Ukraine: Trudeau (just one of many tranches of leaf taxpayer dollars getting sent to UA)
 
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Koko Jambo said:
They will go all-in and import gas from America or go back to nuclear power. There is technically also Turkmenistan who has a lot of gas reserves and they hate Russia but not sure how this will play out.
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>they'll import gas from America

Good luck with that, enjoy spending beaucoup bucks on intercontinental gas shipments via boat and probably still not keeping up with demand.

>go back to nuclear power

How many years do you think it will take to build nuclear reactors? What do you expect ze Germans to do for heat until then, chop up their furniture and burn it?

>Turkmenistan

Great idea. Do you plan to run the pipeline through Kazakhstan, Russia, Belarus and Poland? Or through Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia/Austria? And how long will it take to build it?

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Varg Did Nothing Wrong said:
>they'll import gas from America

Good luck with that, enjoy spending beaucoup bucks on intercontinental gas shipments via boat and probably still not keeping up with demand.

>go back to nuclear power

How many years do you think it will take to build nuclear reactors? What do you expect ze Germans to do for heat until then, chop up their furniture and burn it?

>Turkmenistan

Great idea. Do you plan to run the pipeline through Kazakhstan, Russia, Belarus and Poland? Or through Iran, Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Slovakia, Czechia/Austria? And how long will it take to build it?

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Just dig down lmao.
 
I feel that Putin will realise that a limited war to take Ukraine won't be enough.

This indicates that he will send a shit ton more men and equipment and this will devolve into a sort of an existential war for Putin.
 
MushroomLandTV said:
Here's something gracious that may or may not play after Putin leaves:
That's the first anthem of the Russian Republic, it predates the USSR. It's not cheesy like the pre-2000 one, and it's not the same reused Soviet Union melody.
Pretty beautiful to be honest, it sounds hopeful instead of powerful and grandiose like the USSR one.
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That's not Russia's true National Anthem.

 
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Varg Did Nothing Wrong said:
>go back to nuclear power

How many years do you think it will take to build nuclear reactors? What do you expect ze Germans to do for heat until then, chop up their furniture and burn it?
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Most of the power plants the Germans decommissioned technically haven't been dismantled yet. They can just turn them back on. Provided the greens let them.
 
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Saleh said:
I feel like Putin will realise that a limited war to take Ukraine won't be enough.

This indicates that he will send a shit ton more men and equipment and this will devolve into a sort of an existential war for Putin.
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Probably due to the "Russia weak!!!" spam.

Ukraine has a population of 45,000,000. Russia has overran it in a week.

The size difference involved is not far off that of Poland vs Germany in 1939 - Poland had a large Army for the time, and a population of around 35,000,000.

Germany's was 90,000,000.

So... in terms of size of countries involved, you have one country that is roughly 2.5 times the size of it's neighbour taking 35 days to push through the country.

Russia is on track to beat that record, and the size difference is similar - Russia is around 3x the size of Ukraine by population.
 
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Mr Processor said:
"On August 9, 1945, God’s inscrutable providence allowed an atomic bomb named 'Fat Man' to be dropped from a B-29 into the heavily populated city of Nagasaki. The epicenter of the blast was the Urakami district, the heart and soul of Catholicism in Japan since the sixteenth century." -- Homiletic & Pastoral Review

Perhaps it was intended to eliminate the Catholic-Japanese threat.
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God hates Catholics?
Based and Protestant-pilled
 
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IAmNotAlpharius said:
Not to our politicians and Wall Street. They consider Russia a bigger enemy and if China wasn’t so autistic they’d be willing to throw Taiwan under the bus if the price was right.
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The problem with China taking Taiwan isn't China's belligerence. We were fine with them taking Hong Kong and ruining it. The problem is that with respect to Taiwan, our ruling class is bought by all sides of the conflict. American politicians are some of the greediest in the business, and they don't think past the next 24 hours when taking a bribe.

So, China wants Taiwan, and has bought our political class...but the problem is that once they do, TSMC-made electronics become unavailable in the USA (either because Taiwan blows up TSMC, or for the same natsec reasons Huawei has no access here). Washington has to care about this, both because a lot of our military equipment uses TSMC-made chips, and because Washington is simultaneously bought by American Fortune 500 companies that depend on TSMC, and we're not just talking about Apple, NVIDIA and AMD. It's basically every industry, as nearly every chip not made by Intel or Samsung is made in Taiwan.

A huge problem with geopolitics right now is nobody's really in charge. Washington has most of the formal power, but Washington itself is bought by, as we've seen, countries as irrelevant as Ukraine.
 
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