Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

  • Total voters
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Gonna be funny to see the about face the lefties will have to do after promoting civilians getting fully automatic weapons + instructions on how to make molotov cocktails to fight a goverment.
When has being forced to hold two diametrically opposed beliefs about one thing ever bothered them at all?
 
As a few other posters noted, there has been a strange absence of Russian aircraft so far.
i think that's mostly because there is no real need for it
ukraine doesn't have planes flying anymore i think, so no need for russian planes to try and shoot them down
and beyond that, what does aircraft do that you can't also get done with rocket artillery? not much, so they probably prefer to keep their expensive planes safe on some airfield while ground forces get the work done instead.

much easier and cheaper to rebuild a lost grad truck than to rebuild a lost fighter jet. also much easier to train people in how to drive and operate a grad truck (or other artillery vehicle) than to train a fighter jet pilot.
 
The managerial class is full of bitchmade feminized faggots, who might be saying that shit to placate their retarded wives that have been indoctrinated to see Russia bad because CNN and MSNBC told them Putin is a "crybaby meany man" most likely that is picking on poor innocent retarded slavniggers.
So I've been intentionally keeping this at arms length because propaganda is gay, but for me it comes down to one question:

Does Russia have an actual casus belli against Ukraine?

My gut says 'no' or else they wouldn't have led with the retarded 'denazification' excuse. And if they don't have a just cause to invade, then this whole thing is just Putin being a bitch and the rest of the world is right to call him on it.
 
Do all towns and cities just have air-raid sirens? Does western European cities still have them? Every piece of moder war footage I see both here in Ukrain and others have almost universally has the standard warble siren. Are they just a thing everywhere and we just don't know where the speakers/sirens are because they never get used?
 
Funny-man cracks wise while a nation burns:
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The initial Russian offensive was focused on the south east and knocking out the Ukraine's air defense systems. You don't conquer a country unless you actually try and occupy it, and in the first few days Russia wasn't trying to do shit. Maybe they thought that a show of force would spark a mutiny in the Ukrainian army but I doubt they ever thought the Ukrainian government would simply fold given their allegiances.

Now we're seeing the actual campaign. Careful, methodical, pausing to allow supply lines to catch up with advancing columns, cutting deals with Ukrainian mayors and governors, surrounding and laying siege to the cities that resist.

We're all burger biased and believed this would be something like Iraq. A massive air campaign to destroy all infrastructure, military and civil, including media followed by a brutal thrust into the capital with a declaration of victory followed by years of guerrilla warfare before leaving in defeat. The Russians aren't playing that game. I doubt they'll want to occupy western Ukraine, they want the black seas ports and they definitely want the Russian speaking east. Think the Turkish invasion of Cyprus and eventual partition.

I just got weird possibility in my head what if the reason Russia send conscript etc was force recon ? waste Ukrainian ammunition and see what tools they have the hit those with regular profesional army.
 
theres only so many objectives your armies can pursue at a time
they probably have everybody in the central/western ukraine area busy working on the encirclement/siege of kiev, no capacities to launch even more operations now
Eh I don't know. They still have a ton of troops in reserve, and you can only throw so many forces at one objective before strategic depth becomes useless redundancy. A lot of the places I'm seeing they could even go old USSR zerg rush mode and still take them though they'd take absolutely massive casualties doing so. Personally, I think as @Kane Lives pointed out, there's a reason why their airforce seems to be largely absent.
 
So I've been intentionally keeping this at arms length because propaganda is gay, but for me it comes down to one question:

Does Russia have an actual casus belli against Ukraine?

My gut says 'no' or else they wouldn't have led with the retarded 'denazification' excuse. And if they don't have a just cause to invade, then this whole thing is just Putin being a bitch and the rest of the world is right to call him on it.
The Democrats are the boy from "The boy who cried wolf" when it comes to their enemies.

I don't disagree with the Democrats that Putin is an asshole.

The issue is that they call everyone an asshole or a crybaby like they did to Trump and before that Bush and even now they using that term against Boebert and MTG and Gosar.

Biden allows Putin to invade Russia when the "crybaby orangeman" managed to keep Ukraine invasion free and his mentor allowed Crimea to get away without resistance. And now they crying over please lets put boots in Ukraine and do the gay no fly zone shit.

This is about the bitchmade managerial class that keeps crying wolf on everything and then wonder why so many just don't care what they pushing.
 
I'm a bit surprised Russia hasn't tried to take some of the Ukrainian airfields in the western portion of the country and turn those into FOBs in order to stop NATO from dumping weapons into the country since they control the skies now outside of drones, and I doubt Ukraine is keeping large garrisons there for obvious reasons. Granted I may be thinking about things from a US doctrine perspective which says it's perfectly fine to supply forces purely through air transport.
Putin knows how to play the game. It's ok to supply one side weapons, but but neither of the big players want to so much as DIRECTLY scratch the paint of the other side.
 
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