Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Mate, I'm not claiming to be an expert on uprisings. And I'm guessing you're not either considering you've watched a documentary about one. I'm not saying an uprising will happen in X days/months/years. But they can happen in any one of those time frames, in many different ways.

But there will be a lot of unrest, and that will only build as time goes on without having what they're used to, unless given other options.
I don't disagree with you, but I'm talking about now. We can't know what will happen in the future. Maybe there would be an uprising. Who knows how things will turn out?

It's actually an interesting thing. Who will lead the uprising when shit goes south? Russian ethnical minorities? A rogue military/oligarch faction? Commis? Libs? And what will happen with Russia? The country might fall apart into many sovereign republics.
 
Russia depends much more heavily on Western infrastructure (especially tech) than those countries ever have/will. If you don't think a large portion of the population will not oppose the war, especially when exposed to Western (social)media, you're kidding yourself.
The thing is: even if Russkies wanted to rise up against their government they couldn't do it on their own since Putler has his personal SS mercenaries build up from non ethnic Russians who don't have a problem to massacre the Ivans. A bit like with the Cossacks during the time of the czar. In my pov it's better to just heavily attack the Russian elite with sanctions. In the end it's not guaranteed if it works out but at least some random oligarch has more influence on the state of Russia then all 150 Million Ivans combined.
 
The thing is: even if Russkies wanted to rise up against their government they couldn't do it on their own since Putler has his personal SS mercenaries build up from non ethnic Russians who don't have a problem to massacre the Ivans. A bit like with the Cossacks during the time of the czar. In my pov it's better to just heavily attack the Russian elite with sanctions. In the end it's not guaranteed if it works out but at least some random oligarch has more influence on the state of Russia then all 150 Million Ivans combined.
With unrest comes opportunities though, for anyone close to him looking to take charge. Especially during war.
 
It's actually an interesting thing. Who will lead the uprising when shit goes south? Russian ethnical minorities? A rogue military/oligarch faction? Commis? Libs? And what will happen with Russia? The country might fall apart into many sovereign republics.
Chechnya if the money stream from Moscow ends. They wouldn't lead the uprising of all Russkies ofc. but they could topple the Russian state if they weren't lead by a Suffi brainlet who plays the based white man on IG.
 
Yeah, let's point out the absolute dumbest example of the 'cancelling' as the example, right?

How do you think Russia plans on replacing the everyday things like cards? The normies gonna be pissed they can't use FB, insta, Twitter etc. too.
Russia already has VK as their own version of Facebook. Instagram thots and perpetually online twitterati already oppose Putin and are as impotent as they are everywhere else. I'm not even telling you it as a moral argument, it's strategically pointless and always has been everywhere it's been used up to now and will be again. You can even make the case that it's counterproductive because you're cutting off your own sources of propaganda within Russia and removing the benefits of participating in the global economy.
 
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Yeah. In Kiev you could buy a Toyota Sequoia ARMOURED.
It's not the same car but again it shows how stupid and dangerous it is to stream your 'adventures'


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Edit: Give this to /k/ and they probably give you some detailed info within an hour or 2:

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Hell, I can do that. It's an essentially a "we have M4 carbine at home" setup, using the same basics but different parts to do it. Laser module looks like a civilianized version that may or may not have the IR capability, flashlight looks to be a standard Surefire brand, which is the usual standard due to its reputation as being absolutely fucking blinding if shone into your eyes at night. Optics are non-magnified red dots, and the grips are on the shorter side. One is running picatinny rails and the other has keymod, so they are on some level personalized (or at least not standardized), indicating that these were individually purchased, rather than received in bulk from a sponsor. Image cuts off too early to determine barrel length, but the one on the left looks like it might be mounting a suppressor, given the apparent size of the thing, which by extension would indicate a length well under the 16" minimum for a no-fuss civilian rifle.

EDIT: On closer examination, the one on the left is mounting a red dot, the one on the right has an EOTech holographic sight with flip-up magnifier, you'd recognize it from Modern Warfare 3. The owners of these weapons are either tacticool LARPers, or people who really know their shit; it's too much guuchi for an infantryman, but not enough to instantly mark them as retards.
 
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To the dumb cunts that don't think 'cancelling' Russia is going to be effective coz it's also targeting innocent Russian civilians (Mastercard, VISA, YouTube and whatever else there is): think about it this way - if you suddenly lost access to all this, would you be pissed at the man that caused it?
Putin is a dictator and frankly I don't like dictators. But you aren't doing anything but making people in Russia hate the West more. It wasn't Putin that fucked with their livelihoods and made them even poorer. Sure his actions are detestable, but how does taking it out on the common man help things when you could diplomatically resolve this mess?
 
FOG is not a mercenary group it is a lifestyle brand that makes youtube videos, sells epic $50 hypebeast hats and Makes instagram posts with some cool soldier dudes with “fwrd“ as the caption
Oh joy more useless "war tourist" types, at least that college kid in Libya who spoke to the locals in broken Italian could help clean and repair firearms and carry artillery shells.

At least they're not the Redditors, I wonder how many of those guys even speak a word of either Russian or Ukrainian? Probably not many.
 
Russian cards work in Russia. The sanctions have been primarily for international trade... so the people affected are the elites and if you think the Putin did this without informing/consent of the elites in Russia so they could prepare you're dumb. They've been "diversifying" like crazy the past couple of weeks. So they are straight.

The plebs aren't about to rise up agaisnt Putin for this. This will, rightly, be interpreted as anti-russian people, not anti-Putin.

And newsflash, every succesful revolution, but most of them anyway, are started and led by dissident elites. There are no dissident elites in Russia. Putin is the dissident elite.
 
To the dumb cunts that don't think 'cancelling' Russia is going to be effective coz it's also targeting innocent Russian civilians (Mastercard, VISA, YouTube and whatever else there is): think about it this way - if you suddenly lost access to all this, would you be pissed at the man that caused it?

Reality is, MOST people, these days at least - with the internet would. It has the potential of causing a massive uprising against Putin the longer it's sustained.
Okay glownigger, what else?
 
Oh joy more useless "war tourist" types, at least that college kid in Libya who spoke to the locals in broken Italian could help clean and repair firearms and carry artillery shells.

At least they're not the Redditors, I wonder how many of those guys even speak a word of either Russian or Ukrainian? Probably not many.
Maybe I'm just dense, but did any previous wars had this degree of war tourism? Aside from that college kid you mentioned.
 
Also, the problem with "some random oligarch takes charge" scenario is that the elites are happy with Putin. He is not some Stalin V2.0 who solely rules Russia with an iron fist. Behind him are oligarch who are content with having him as a figurehead and he rules as long as they allow him to. After all, they put him in power in the first place.
 
To the dumb cunts that don't think 'cancelling' Russia is going to be effective coz it's also targeting innocent Russian civilians (Mastercard, VISA, YouTube and whatever else there is): think about it this way - if you suddenly lost access to all this, would you be pissed at the man that caused it?

Reality is, MOST people, these days at least - with the internet would. It has the potential of causing a massive uprising against Putin the longer it's sustained.
If you ask me:
The idea that Putins regime will fall by a coup is Western copium
The idea that Russia will start a new Euraasian co-prosperity sphere is Churka/Ivan copium

What will happen: the ethnic Russkies will take the anal fucking from the Western sanctions and will do nothing while Putin hands himself over to the China man in the long run.
 
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I like how you faggots are sadder about Russian economy being fucked and "bwaa boo muh babushka" than cities literally being bombed.
In all fairnesd the bombed economy has way bigger impact, unless a nuclear plant explodes. Remember that ukraine will likely be part of russia which means they will have to deal with the same terrible economy as well
 
Maybe I'm just dense, but did any previous wars had this degree of war tourism? Aside from that college kid you mentioned.
All of them prior to post WW2 wars I'd imagine. All those stories about Hercules and the other gay Greek heroes. War tourists. Things are just going back to the "normal" we've been away from so long.
 
It's almost like Putin was right about social media being a tool to subvert Russian society. I fully expect Russia to follow china in building a great wall along with other countries. The days of a worldwide internet are numbered as null keeps saying.

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While many in the usenet sphere lament "eternal September" as the end of the internet. I myself, subscribe to the 2007 theory. As soon as the average idiot on the street was able to access the internet at the touch of a button, anywhere. When it used to take building your own computer and setting up your modem and IP addresses, Essentially, gatekeeping.

I think that was the end of what the old internet represented. The idea that people around the world could work together for a common good. That time of the internet, that optimism, is gone now. Replaced by morons changing their profile picture to match the trend of the month. Replaced by Tiktok influencers, replaced by online marketing firms, replaced by the millions of children that are on their Ipads right now, controlling the internet trends.

The internet is now morphing into a more pervasive and intrusive version of TV. Did your TV ever ask for your details? Did your TV ever listen in on your conversations and then advertise to you based on that? Is your TV with you 24/7?

I think most people don't even realize whats happening.
 
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