Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Welp, if anyone had any doubts, IZelensky left Ukraine for good and is now in Poland.

My guess is that he left long time ago seems to be more realistic than I though, since Chairman of the State Duma Volodyn claimed this on Feb 26:

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Translation:


I knew this fucking clown had no balls.

Lvov isn't Polska clay yet, is it?

 

[IKOL]

Of course it is going to be an issue. Life will become much shitter, but the Pope will staunchly remain Catholic and the bears will continue to defecate in Siberian taiga. I am honestly not sure what point you are trying to prove aisde from that.

He thinks because of muh sanctions the people in Russia will get SUPAH-DUPAH PISSED and overthrow Putin. He's a redditor, what would you expect?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Last night I was watching Cocomelon on YouTube with my toddler - it's a silly singing cartoon channel - and a ad for supporting Ukraine fucking came up.

Any time the propaganda is 100% in one direction and constantly in your face no matter what and you are banned from hearing or voicing any other views, you know for certain the truth tends to be opposite what is the establishment drum beat.
Not saying Putin is an angel, but this is getting to be like those involved in a coverup doing all they can to silence Jack Bauer or some shit.

I remember when Pewdiepie made a video mocking those degenerate niggers.

And Jewtube got super butthurt at how much funny and based it was, and deleted it.

 

[Several Goats]

Twitter was a mistake

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

Russian state propaganda video footage from a Chechen war camp in the forests of Ukraine:

Interesting how the Chechens seem to be going for a more trad war camp aesthetic with yurts and pots of food over open flame, rather than the practical but SOVLLESS modern solutions like MREs.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499774021545697282

https://archive.ph/PMhcs

Coming from an Ukraine account makes it even more comical.

Spoiler: NSFW - The new swastika

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"Whose motorcycle is this?"
"It's a ruski chopper, baby!"
"Whose chopper is this?"
"Zed's."
"Who's Zed?"
"Zed's ded, baby! Zed's ded!"

 

[marfusha]

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https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499774021545697282

https://archive.ph/PMhcs

Coming from an Ukraine account makes it even more comical.

Spoiler: NSFW - The new swastika

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Nexta is belarusian opposition media

 

[Inebriated Raccoon]

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Lots of question marks surrounding the sampling here.

Am I missing or misunderstanding something? There are numerous people who seem convinced that the Ukranians will win. Even western media coverage seems to imply an inevitable Ukrainian victory.

Yet, every news that exits Ukraine is them getting bombed, civilians dying, Russians eventually capturing or re-capturing cities and nuclear plants, them being understandably desperate in asking for a ceasefire or NATO intervention (which has an incredibly low likelihood of happening), them asking for additional sanctions, etc.

Is it the sanctions? The hope that the Russian people will somehow overthrow their government or that the sanctions will hinder the Russian government’s ability to fund the war? Presumably, the Russian government predicted these sanctions and probably have some countermeasures that will dampen some of the consequences, right?

The Russian military seems to dwarf the Ukranian military. Additionally, it seems that many untrained Ukrainian citizens are acting as volunteer soldiers. I imagine that having untrained civilians getting caught up in a war can cause significant problems (i.e getting in the way, accidentally setting off traps, misidentifying enemies, more likely to sustain injuries thus spreading medical supplies/attention thin, etc).

I feel for innocent civilians who are up in this war. But, from my understanding, unless there is actual foreign military intervention, expecting a Ukraine victory seems incredibly delusional. However, maybe I’m missing something or maybe I’m being too pessimistic and need a different perspective on this conflict.

 

[Random Internet Person]

How the Ukraine war exposed Western media bias

Archive is slow.

The Middle East found itself dragged into coverage of the conflict in Ukraine over the past week as journalists descended on the country to cover the biggest European war in decades.

Western war reporters, more used to being deployed in Middle East conflict zones, were quick to make comparisons. Some of those comparisons went overboard, causing outrage in the Arab world.

"This isn't a place, with all due respect, you know, like Iraq or Afghanistan that has seen conflict raging for decades," said CBS News foreign correspondent Charlie D'Agata, referring to Ukraine. "You know, this is a relatively civilized, relatively European... city." He later apologized.


Other news outlets poured sympathy on Ukrainian victims, with interviewees and correspondents pointing out that, unlike Middle Eastern refugees, Ukrainian victims were "white," "Christian," "middle class," "blonde" and "blue eyed."

In a matter of days, hashtags, and even t-shirts, featuring the phrase "civilized" surfaced in the Middle East in protest.

The media coverage prompted the New York-based Arab and Middle Eastern Journalists Association to issue a statement condemning the "pervasive mentality in Western journalism of normalizing tragedy" in places like the Middle East.

Its president Hoda Osman, who has reported for several Western media outlets, including France24, ABC News and CBS News, said the contrast between coverage of Western victims versus Middle Eastern ones demonstrates a dehumanization of the latter.

We asked her why she feels this is happening and what can be done about it.

Western news outlets have many more minority journalists than they used to. Has that diversity trickled down to coverage?

There's no doubt that having more minority journalists would lead to better coverage, whether it's through catching misinformation, bias and racism, booking interviews with knowledgeable people who understand the nuances, offering background and context or helping with something as simple as correct translations and pronunciations.

Over the past 16 years, we've seen the number of journalists of Arab and Middle Eastern descent working in the Western media grow significantly. There's also more diversity in the type of media outlets [Middle Easterners] are a part of, from local TV stations and newspapers to occupying senior positions at national and international news outlets. But we still need more. Simply being in the room makes a difference and results in improved reporting.

Is the level of bias that you see in the Western press unprecedented? What's the difference this time?

What is sad this time is that the [offending] comments came so casually, spontaneously, and as a result, revealed existing bias, something we would expect a journalist covering an international event to be above.

Sadly, we were not shocked. The remarks got some attention thanks to social media, but we knew this kind of bias and racism exists.

How seriously do you think news outlets are taking these claims of bias?

I think public pressure will have some impact. I also expect that many organizations truly want to do the right thing.

We have called on newsrooms to train correspondents on the cultural and political nuances of regions they're reporting on, and not rely on American- or Euro-centric biases.

Do you think now that Western journalists have covered a European war they will be more sympathetic to victims of Middle Eastern wars?

To be honest, I don't think it even matters whether or not they do. We are just asking journalists to be journalists and do a good job of reporting without inserting their own biases into the story and making unnecessary comparisons.

The transcript has been edited for length and clarity

Enjoy the work of Abbas Al Lawati and Nadeen Ebrahim

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Not only that, any military with zero experience in launching a combined-arms assault over eighty-plus miles of opposed water/sky against a defended shore, and tries to do so, is going to be fucked worse than a whore on Saturday night.

Hell just the troop transports crossing the straits would be massive targets for the Taiwanese missiles. Thousands dead before a single boot hits the beach.

 

[Oxous]

NEXTA claims this is Russian politician Lyudmila Narusova publically acknowledging that conscripts were deployed in Ukraine, as well as the losses they took. It looks like her, at least. She's not formally affiliated with any party. This is the translation they provided of what she's saying:

"Yesterday the conscripts, who were forced to sign a contract or signed for them, were withdrawn from the war zone in Ukraine. But from a company of a hundred men only four were left alive."

Nexta is belarusian opposition media

They're Belarussian? I always thought they were just Ukrainian.

 

[Borscht]

There fren, I posted maps and shiet: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/russian-invasion-of-ukraine.107023/page-1744#post-11325904

My map is better.

Spoiler: RAWR!

I will be going to Hell for this, but I laughed hysterically for a couple of minutes. I do not know why. Please forgive me, Ukrainean frens.

 

[Vesperus]

I'm sure this may have been answered, but I find digital camo so interesting I'm answering anyway.
Digi pulls this neat trick of confusing the eye. Typical camo purpose is to make your body shape mix into the background. The problem is the human eye and really most animals with complex eyes are incredibly good at picking out shapes that don't belong. When trying to blend in, even with camo, your body still creates an unnatural shape in the background, it's that shape that gets seen.
What digi does is at a distance, breaks up that line. Because the edges are no longer clearly part of a larger human shape they tend to blend into the noise of the background.
It's actually quite ingenious and makes me nerd out a bit. Although the effectiveness is questionable for larger vehicles and obviously a large digital camo box is going to require more distance before the eye doesn't just see a tank thing with odd colored squares.

I'm not scrolling back through 500 pages of shitposts to find it, but there was a good article about it linked. It's not about invisible tanks, it's about buying a few seconds confusion: Within 500 meters it doesn't matter if it's painted with teletubbies waving pride flags, you know it's a tank. Beyond 1,300m it's a big vehicle that isn't yours. The "golden hour" - for the British - is when a Challenger is running you down from 1.3 km and they don't want you to realise until it's too late.

The paints used have different radar/thermal/optical qualities to baffle your onboard AI. That it has that 'digital' look is just a further bamboozlment for the 21st century - Am I looking at a flaw in my HUD, a QR code for free shipping, or has the graphic not loaded in yet? Oh shit it's a--

--BOOM--

It's Dazzle for the 21st century.

 

[Dave_Ph]

Yes, people are retards and you've proved that point by thinking the average person doesn't feel empathy towards another average person because of where they're from.

If you do think that, you have a very loose grip on reality and should probably just stay in ya bedroom in ya mums house.

And before you say some shit like 'Hahha lol people hate niggers so obviously people are prejudice", whatever man just look at how things are in the west these days and tell me the common person wouldn't hate that mentality and find it evil.

Found the virtue signaling Emo

We must incinerate the Russian Convoy

Russia sends humanitarian aid to Melitopol, Ukraine

Over 100 tons of humanitarian aid has been sent via convoy by Russia to the Ukrainian town of Melitopol. RT's Murad Gazdiev reports from the city. #news #worldevents ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------…

www.bitchute.com

 

[W00K #17]

I genuinely feel for these people in Mariupol. Things might be about to get really rough there. The last time a city of slavs was under siege, some of them ate other slavs.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Interesting how the Chechens seem to be going for a more trad war camp aesthetic with yurts and pots of food over open flame, rather than the practical but SOVLLESS modern solutions like MREs.

Every military feeds its soldiers hot cooked meals as soon as there a big enough camp set up to be able to accommodate it. MREs are not meant to be eaten constantly, they're combat rations for when you are in a hot zone and cannot cook food for various reasons (lack of materials, inability to set up cook fires, quickly changing situation).

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

Can any of the Russophones ITT explain what ЗА НАШИХ (ZA NASHIKH) means? Translator tools are giving me crap like "for our." Is it basically something like "GO TEAM!" or "GO US!" in English?

 

[Freezard]

Twitter was a mistake

Lmao Alexander made Julius Caesar have a midlife crisis because he wasn't Alexander by his middle age, and Caesar ended up greater in the long term. I can't imagine anybody having a midlife crisis over not being Zelensky except somebody who takes unprescribed estrogen pills.

Like really from the most neutral political stance you could take his great contribution to history would be having the longest standup bit a comedian's ever had.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

Can any of the Russophones ITT explain what ЗА НАШИХ (ZA NASHIKH) means? Translator tools are giving me crap like "for our." Is it basically something like "GO TEAM!" or "GO US!" in English?

Post 9/11 style "support the troops", essentially

 

[Mr Bunny]

Russian state propaganda video footage from a Chechen war camp in the forests of Ukraine:
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Interesting how the Chechens seem to be going for a more trad war camp aesthetic with yurts and pots of food over open flame, rather than the practical but SOVLLESS modern solutions like MREs.

Who doesn't love a camping trip with the boys?