Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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So realistically how dangerous would nuclear plant blowing up be? In radius?
Nuclear plants don't 'blow up.' Usually the issue is a meltdown that causes radioactive material to escape the sealed core. The danger and its extent would be determined by how much damage the reactor core had sustained as well as how much the damage opens up the core to the outside world.

There's relatively little damage in this case. The reactor probably isn't going to melt down and most reactors are designed to take a lot of damage before they become structurally compromised. But if both things did happen, and we're talking about a bomb blast landing inside an active reactor core - Europe wouldn't be inhabitable for a generation.

Highly unlikely scenario though. The Russians would have to commit to flattening the plant which they're obviously not going to do.
 
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If anything man-portable could have shifted the outcome, it would have been Stingers, and lots of them.

What a lot of people don't realize is that most man-portable weapons are shit in general, and in modern warfare, rifle fire, on average, takes thousands of bullets of misses and suppressing fire before it kills one single person.




The most effective weapons of modern warfare are GPS-guided bombs, missiles, and artillery shells. Most firefights in the Sandbox consisted of US troops shooting literally thousands of bullets at dirt and sand before hooting and hollering "YEAH, GET SOME" as an F-16 screams overhead and drops a JDAM on whatever makeshift fortification insurgents were firing from. It's not like COD at all. Even ARMA fails to capture how utterly bullshit modern warfare is, with most enemy infantry conveniently standing silhouetted against hilltops or out in clearings and not hiding in ditches, behind low walls, or window sills like they would in real life. You cannot see shit. The only warning you have that a firefight has begun is the supersonic crack of a rifle bullet passing overhead, causing you to reflexively flatten yourself against the ground. This is immediately followed by a dozen men emptying their entire thirty-round mags in the direction where they thought the fire came from. That's 360 rounds right there that just hit precisely dick.

Rifles don't do shit. Missiles, shells, mines, bombs, and grenades do all the real work.
Well, I'm an idiot when it comes to warfare. So my question is why then we still have infantry? If it's so useless as you say, sure spending all those money on soldiers and their gear is dumb.
 
Im just scared. I wanted to live with my partner and get married after i finish my current degree. Now im just scared of nuclear strikes since im pretty close to Ukraine.

My parents do nothing to help. Listening to media fearmongering. Telling that oooo the reactor will be blown up and we will blow up.

So realistically how dangerous would nuclear plant blowing up be? In radius?
You have basically a perfect example of *worst case* scenario in Chernobyl, so adjust accordingly.

And if you're not right up the border of Russia, you can wave to the missiles as they go to destroy the US.
 
Well, I'm an idiot when it comes to warfare. So my question is why then we still have infantry? If it's so useless as you say, sure spending all those money on soldiers and their gear is dumb.
To hold ground. And make sure other infantry with shit like javelins don't get close to the real killers. Also it's pretty hard to clear a house in a tank.
 
Hard to do when before you were president your adult life was spent as a comedian. Retard is only in the position he is now because oligarchs bought him and the US fortified elections for him. Hence why he whores himself and his nation out like you see below.
It's been a week buddy and no aid has arrived outside of outdated crap nations would be dismantling for parts otherwise. Give up with your shameless begging and have an actual talk with Russian representatives instead of jerking yourself off like the world actually gives a shit about you or Ukraine.

If he cared about his people he would be talking to Russians by now.
Did you not expect a leader who is in a fight for his survival to be jingoistic? What did you expect him to say?

"Guys, I appreciate the help but we are going to lose. This war is a delaying action and we are bleeding the enemy at great expense to ourselves so that I can negotiate a ceasefire where I surrender a sizeable portion of the country in exchange for keeping my job."
And that's why peace talks don't do anything. Zelensky is a middle manager who doesn't have the power to lift sanctions. He can only tell Russia, "Sorry, but sanctions came from the US. You'll have to talk to them" when they ask him "Get us our SWIFT bank accounts reactivated." He ain't got no carrot and his stick is of dubious quality overall given int'l support is more virtue signaling than anything else. Russia realizes that if they do withdraw, there's a good chance they'll get invaded themselves. Russian generals aren't happy with Putin, but they have no idea if assassinating him doesn't cause bigger problems in the future.

I pity Zelensky. His entire country is being used as a chess knight to Zugswang Russia.
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Interesting that they are not using BVR missiles here. Old school Nam dogfighting with heat-seekers. Surprised they weren't using guns.
Im just scared. I wanted to live with my partner and get married after i finish my current degree. Now im just scared of nuclear strikes since im pretty close to Ukraine.

My parents do nothing to help. Listening to media fearmongering. Telling that oooo the reactor will be blown up and we will blow up.

So realistically how dangerous would nuclear plant blowing up be? In radius?
Nuke plants don't blow up like bombs. Chernobyl was a steam explosion. Fukushima was a hydrogen explosion. Neither of these are likely to happen. They will just turn them off. Pumps will cycle for a day to remove decay heat. After a couple hours the heat load will be removed enough to enter cold shut down passively.

People are hysterical morons when it comes to nuclear plants.
Nuclear plants cannot go nuclear explosion. The reactor casing being breeched and the fuel catching fire would be a bad day for those downwind due to the radiation but there would be no mushroom cloud.
How does one light Uranium Oxide on fire?
 
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would nuclear plant blowing up be? In radius?
The core would melt all the way to the Earth's crust and trigger a world wide volcanic eruption with radiation spewing everywhere. Trust me, I'm an expert.
Is anyone shocked a people fucked over by NATO support a war against NATO expansion? Here's to the Serbs starting shit and the US pussyfooting around it, though since Serbia isn't a nuclear power they'd just get bombed to shit again and maybe get another chunk of land with minorities in it taken away.
 
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Nuclear plants cannot go nuclear explosion. The reactor casing being breeched and the fuel catching fire would be a bad day for those downwind due to the radiation but there would be no mushroom cloud.
IIRC, you need a sufficient level of enrichment to actually achieve the necessary chain reaction for a nuclear explosion, which fuel rods do not have.
 
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