Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Aidan]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia, a country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.

Calm down. I don't think I've seen a genuine Putin shill in this thread and I've been lurking it before the invasion. Most active posters are either agnostic and here for personal reasons or just enjoy the fire rising as far as I can tell and not really on either side.

 

[mudwogg]

Raw battle footage from Volnovakkha, Donetsk region as Russian forces comb the area with tank and drone support. Two destroyed Ukrainian T-64 tanks and a BMP-1 are seen.
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What type of drones did they use?

 

[Ward]

flying ones I guess

 

[Dave_Ph]

Why does this keep being repeated ?

I've payed attention to what was being said by the relevant parties since they first started raising the alarm over the possibility of an invasion a month ago and not only did they never give any indication they would do any more than they are currently, they specifically went out of their way to correct people who thought otherwise.

Neither NATO or the EU (any European assistance would have been unilateral in any case) was ever going to directly confront Russia militarily. The fact that we've seen unprecedented vitriol being expressed towards Russia and they still wont even gamble a no fly zone as long as it stays across the border should make that crystal clear.

If He really thought Ukraine was getting more than this (and what's been seriously proposed since the invasion) He's an idiot and the misconception is entirely on Him and His advisers.

It's not recent. It goes back to 2016 at the latest. They were told that we would help them. We set up their color Revolution. Victoria Nuland, the woman who testified against Trump in one of his impeachments was in the middle of it. We created the existing government and ran the prior president out of the country to Russia. Their Euro Mydan looks a lot like our Summer of BLM and ANTIFA.
Putin is starting to look more like a liberator than a villan. Especially with what was done to the Russian speaking people in the East. And not to sound too much like Alex Jones but documentaries that were available a few weeks ago are now gone. Including long interviews with Putin in 2018 and 2019. What you cqn see are documentaries like...fuck DDoS, end typing
At this point I'd take a cue from Redditors and go fight in Ukraine but my cat needs me. And I'd be on Team Vlad.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia,ba country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.

Oh right, because it's all one man, raging against the tide of history, yadda, yadda, yadda. Get a fucking grip. You have no more insight or knowledge than anyone here, and less than most, to be honest. At least man up and be honest and say you hate Putin instead of writing a holier-than-thou wall of fucking text.

As far as wars go this one is pretty fucking tame. We pounded Baghdad in the ass for a solid month before rolling in during 2003, have you forgotten women and children wailing when entire extended families were wiped out? You make me sick. This is just the 21st century expansion of The Great Game, and you are not a player, so spare us your moaning.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Not a reduction, but you'll damn sure see a price increase. The urea and potash stuff that goes into fertilizer and a few other things will get a bit harder (pricier) to get and that's gonna translate to the US having canada tier grocery prices imho.

Urea and potash. Jesus.

Ammonia. Anhydrous ammonia. That is what they are talking about when they say "fertilizer" in this context. Natural gas is the feedstock. It gets converted into hydrogen then burned over these big rhodium catalysts with air to make ammonia. It's a very common industrial process and every country with a gas surplus makes it in spades.

Nitrogen is the big deficiency in soil that needs to be reupped from time to time. That's why they run crops in cycles. The big cash crop is after you inject it into the ground (the gas ammonia bonds with water in the soil to make ammonium hydroxide that fixes it). The next couple years you are running lower value crops pulling the rest of it out. The final one you run a legume or let it rest with no crop (go fallow). This is the best way to both diversify your crops and maximize the impact of pumping nitrogen into the soil. A way to diversify and spread out the risk of certain crops failing or not being valuable or fertilizer costs/shortages.

This is how wheat/grain operations work. You aren't hauling a truck out there and dumping urea and potash imported from Russia on the field every year. That's retarded.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Quick? It’s been two weeks, dude. Calm down.

Nah you faggots that were Pro-Russia all thought Ukraine was gonna cave in a couple of days. Now you are coping and starting to make reasonable posts about the length of this campaign. Remember guys this wasn't an "invasion" it was a "special operation".

 

[mindlessobserver]

Oh right, because it's all one man, raging against the tide of history, yadda, yadda, yadda. Get a fucking grip. You have no more insight or knowledge than anyone here, and less than most, to be honest. At least man up and be honest and say you hate Putin instead of writing a holier-than-thou wall of fucking text.

As far as wars go this one is pretty fucking tame. We pounded Baghdad in the ass for a solid month before rolling in during 2003, have you forgotten women and children wailing when entire extended families were wiped out? You make me sick. This is just the 21st century expansion of The Great Game, and you are not a player, so spare us your moaning.

I hate putin. He's short, insecure, worse then Napoleon and the Russian people deserve better.

Manlets. Never even once.

 

[Aidan]

And not to sound too much like Alex Jones but documentaries that were available a few weeks ago are now gone. Including long interviews with Putin in 2018 and 2019. What you cqn see are documentaries like...fuck DDoS, end typing
At this point I'd take a cue from Redditors and go fight in Ukraine but my cat needs me. And I'd be on Team Vlad.

Link me any media you're worried may be disappeared and I will nab it, no questions asked. I store it locally and don't really know where I could put it, particularly if it's too big for the farms + I try to respect Null's storage, but I can pull it up on demand for those who want it.

This goes for anyone, I really care about this modern day disappearing of info.

 

[The Ugly One]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

Weird how the tide of History so often involves revolutions financed and supported by the US Department of State. I guess Langley is a force of nature, like gravity.

 

[Mussi]

I hate putin. He's short, insecure, worse then Napoleon and the Russian people deserve better.

Manlets. Never even once.

Napoleon was of average height for his time you retard. You are actually eating two hundred-year-old British propaganda as readily as you are eating Ukrainian propaganda.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Napoleon was of average height for his time you retard.

Yet still Britain fucked him in the ass.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia, a country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.

Wow.

I never thought I'd get to use this:

Here's your fucking cape since you're fucking supermad.



Nice to see you get it that Russia picked a bad time.

But since they've trained for General Mud and General Winter, the only two competent Generals they've had in the last 50 fucking years, I'd say it's going their way.

What, did you think war was bloodless? Did you think guys who went to the VA with the 1,000 yard stare were just there for the great medical care? You think guys that came home missing legs and arms just lost them at the track betting on the dogs?

I'm thrilled you're fucking getting the actual cost of war. You THINK you know what it's about. It's starting to make you sick. It's starting to dawn on you that those pictures are real human beings who probably spent the last few moments of their lives in massive pain and that it isn't as quick and easy as the movies.

You're just starting to grasp the edges of it.

Congrats.

Now you look at it.

You look at it fucking good.

You can be supermad all you want, but you fucking look at it.

For the rest of your fucking life, when you go in to vote on something, I want you to remember right now when you finally fucking realized war is bad.

 

[Richardface]

Putin focused so hard on NATO that he ignored the country that actually mattered.

If this is a redux of the Sudetenland crisis, then this time we are watching the country sold down the river going to war instead of acquiescencing.

I was on the fence on this conflict because I saw a story of two ukraines in 2014. One Ukraine surrendered Crimea and Donbass without a fight. The other Ukraine fought off the little green men at Odessa and the "tourists" at Mariople.

The question still remained though. Who was the real Ukraine? Well, the people of Odessa are fortifying the beach with Russian warships in sight, Mariople has gone full Bastogne and has refused to surrender, while a city of Ethnic Russians, Kharkiv, a hero city of the Great Patriotic War against Germany let's not forget, has been subjected to scorched earth carpet bombing by their so called fellow Russians.

The results are in, Ukraine is a real country and if Russia wants it they had better be prepared to pay with the blood of tens of thousands of their sons.

Pretty impressive you managed to type all that with only one hand free

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I hate putin. He's short, insecure, worse then Napoleon and the Russian people deserve better.

Manlets. Never even once.

I can respect that. Let's kiss and make up. <3

 

[Toasted Midnights in June]

Everyone claiming the Russians military is outdated clearly hasn't played enough Command & Conquer to understand Geopolitics. I got word from the Kremlin, their War Factories are now producing TIER III units. Trust me, I haven't even actually played C&C in almost 15 years.

 

[draggs]

Napoleon was of average height for his time you retard. You are actually eating two hundred-year-old British propaganda as readily as you are eating Ukrainian propaganda.

So what I'm hearing is Napoleon was a man ahead of his time

 

[Bananadana]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia, a country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.

>THE ROADS ARE PREDICTABLE AND UNDER CONSTANT ATTACK, RUSSIA BTFO
<Russia:

 

[mindlessobserver]

I can respect that. Let's kiss and make up. <3

I still love you BB. Can we at least agree that no matter who wins, the Kazars, specifically their females with their milkers, need to be preserved for the good of all mankind.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

I'm really fucking done with you idiots. Syria General, Geopolitics General and /pol/ in general has rotted your fucking brains. The group think here is stupid. You are stupid. And I refuse to be a part of it. Neg rate me all you fucking want.

Right now people are being killed. They aren't being killed due to the Machinations of some Jewish plot. They aren't being killed because of globohomo. They are being killed because one man, Putin, is raging against the tide of history and instead of adapting to it he is letting his country be swept away.

This war is a fucking disgrace. On every level. The Russian Army is a disgrace. It has proven itself incapable of a land invasion on its own fucking borders. It's having to resort to WW2 total war against Gopnik gangs while ducking Turkish made drones and pretending those same Gopniks didn't just wipe out an entire brigade of air assault troops.

Worse, putin has committed Russia to a full on conventional war with a peer power without any of the respect for what that requires. The invasion of Georgia, a country 1/8th the size of Ukraine was famously messed up and assurances were made the same mistakes would not be repeated. But they ARE!

WORSE

Putin has committed to a land war in fucking February! It's still winter! And as the ground thaws the Steppe turns into a muddy swamp! You can't do conventional maneuver in this environment! You have to stick to the roads! And the roads are predictable and under constant attack! Which means you need to rely on Light Infantry, which is where Ukraine has the advantage! I didn't believe Russia would invade before at least late March for this very reason!

And I know exactly what "carpet bombing" means and that is precisely what the Russians are doing to their "compatriots" in Kharkiv. Kharkiv you see has done the unforgivable in that they refused to get out of the way. And for that they must be made to suffer. All those platitudes about common fraternity matter for NOTHING when the clock is ticking as tens of thousands of civilians are being turned into soldiers around Lviv.

TL;DR

Fuck you, and fuck putin shills. You all wanted a war and now you get what you fucking deserve.