Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

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How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Mariupol doesn't seem to be affected by war at all.


I don't where is this from, nor I know what the fuck is happening at this point. This is some medieval shit.
 
Again comparing the US which can do what they want to fucking Slavs. lmao. Why do you think just because America can do it, it means the Reds can?
For how long can you "do what you want"? The only combat experience the US has is bombing badly armed brown people in sandals and you still managed to lose in Afghanistan. Would be great so see you fight a real nation for once, if your 30 trillion in national debt isn't going to ruin you first. Russias national debt to GDP ratio is less than 18%, the US debt to GDP ratio is 134%, you can try to sanction russia all you want but in reality its the US that lives in a bubble of false security.
 
Nobody cares except Russia. The Ukrainians never asked for this, the Russians invaded.
You are way too emotional or drunk posting right now.
I think you should log off or go back to reddit.


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Food prices havent' went up kids, it's just fine. 250 a week going to 350 doesn't mean anything. Everything is fine, that inflation isn't inflation. It's just some doomer lie to scare you.. OOGA BOOGA.. I said it didn't happen but if it did it's your fault. Great take, you blithering idiot.

I've posted sources, every single thing i've said is backed up with citations. Your stance is "just trust me dude, this guy is wrong.. I can't prove it or anything gay like that, i'm just gonna call him wrong"
Bro. You are calling doom on crops for seeds that haven't even been planted yet or for big cash crops that were already planted with all of the tasty minerals and vitamins. I pointed this out hours ago with Ukrainian WINTER WHEAT as in it has already been planted and fucking fertilized wheat that people are assuming it somehow won't be harvested in August. Your sources are absolute garbage based on things even the authors don't understand on speculative predictions gleaned from export commodities tables for things that take years to fully feel the impact from if it ever did close down. Which it fucking didn't.

Crops are planted in a cycle with a wide variety. It is based on market and soil and availability of resources. To call out doom based on the speculation of potash and urea or whatever the fuck is plain retarded. It is the market that make the prices. That runs on people like you. Not the farms. Not the reality on the ground. They are fine except for a small area in eastern Ukraine. They might have trouble planting spring barley. This is it. This is the extent of the problem as it stands. Yet here we are and you pointing at prices right now being caused by this shit. It is not.

MARKETS DICTATE PRICES. If you want them lower stop dooming and causing prices to inflate beyond reality with your paranoid doomer shit. Prices are what you or me decide the value things are worth by paying them. People are paying these inflated prices because the media has them scared. Commodities markets on the Chicago Board of Trade work the same way with porkbellies or wheat or other commodities on the futures exchange. That is what is driving prices. Not the shortage of fertilizer for crops or whatever doomer shit. You can see it because there are no shortages right now. Production and storage and distribution was the same as it was however long ago. How people feel is what changed.

You, yes you, are what are driving prices. That mindset. Not some theoretical fertilizer shipment from Russia to be dumped on some cabbages or whatever that got delayed. Those don't exist.
 
Every unnecessary day that passes the more and more I think the fucking Ukrainians can stave off this invasion. Russians should be ashamed of themselves with this very weak and incompetent show of force.
Looking at previous Russian historical offensives, they have improved greatly in that department going by their previous fuck ups. That should scare you.

I support Russia especially after they threatened to nuke the world with me and my family included. This is not a brainwashed take they have the right to kill me and my family for the offensive war they started. Shout out to Coach Red Pill!
If Russia has sets aside resources for you because they made you an important military target for termination, seems like Ukraine losing is guaranteed and their offensive is going great and exceeding all expectations with surplus resources to spare. No need for nuke when they usually use some radiation poison shit.
 
If that is your justification to blow up civilians then kudos to you.

Again comparing the US which can do what they want to fucking Slavs. lmao. Why do you think just because America can do it, it means the Reds can?

Always nice to see someone display that they really don't give a shit about the talking points they're using, it's just throwing shit against the wall to see if it sticks or not.
 
As always, fact check journalist.

https://goo.gl/maps/B6JVCqdamoXHVXcg7 the ambush happened around this spot, they first get the 40mm round as a warning, they ignore it and then cross past those traffic cones into the deathzone and accordingly get shot to shit. Now take a look at the map where this "death squad" is doing it's business from -- its Ukranian held territory. These journalist were heading back into Kiev and got smoked by jumpy Ukranian militia and blamed it on Russia, who by the way, did not have any units in that immediately area.

There is Ukranian checkpoints at each of these locations with the marker on the one Sky News got ambushed atView attachment 3044345
I'm sure many will take the "Russians did it" narrative, hook, line and sinker. Goebbels has been surpassed by so many individuals.

How I wish I had the same ability to lie and manipulate others like the mainstream.
 
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For how long can you "do what you want"? The only combat experience the US has is bombing badly armed brown people in sandals and you still managed to lose in Afghanistan. Would be great so see you fight a real nation for once, if your 30 trillion in national debt isn't going to ruin you first. Russias national debt to GDP ratio is less than 18%, the US debt to GDP ratio is 134%, you can try to sanction russia all you want but in reality its the US that lives in a bubble of false security.
Because the USA is what we invest most western military into, So think of all of NA, all of western and central europe, some eastern europe countries and some sand niggers Japan can come too. Yeah when you look at the map and see how much of it is not Chinese and Russians its pretty fucking obvious who is slinging the dick around when you bar the concept of nukes. Pretty sure in the next decade we are gonna fortify even more missile defense so this faggotry can't happen again and then what the fuck are the Ruskies gonna do?
 
People are thinking Hillarys up.

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It was always her turn.
Hillary Clinton is a red herring in my view.

These trumpers should stop with the retarded speculation in 2024 over who the Democrat will be.

They should keep it simple that it's Biden they will be running against since he was tougher for Trump to defeat than Hillary.

Hillary challenging Biden is suicidal and will lead to a definite loss in the general that ballot printer go burrr will not even save.
 
Seeing as people keep accusing this thread as having a bias, I had an idea.

Let's wargame out some strategies for the Ukraine that don't involve magical thinking (NATO intervening, Ukraine managing to indefinitely conventionally repulse the Russian offense, Russia just giving up apropos of nothing).

I'll start: If I was commanding Ukraine, I'd accept that the west and NATO will not be able to seriously help or make any real impact. So, instead I'd go max scorched earth, Iraqi Army style. As the situation looks bleaker, I'd start blowing the pipelines and igniting the natural gas wells. The Russians and the west would both panic in chaos at the action, and it could result in some interesting political outcomes on both ends. If nothing else, it would be a nice "Fuck you" to Russia even as they succeed in their takeover.

Otherwise, I'd start caching weapons and supplies and organizing militia and guerilla elements to conduct irregular warfare Afgani-style, rather than continue to fight conventionally where the loss is practically guaranteed.

What strategies does everyone else have?
The whole thing is quite simple; prolong the war for as long as possible and force the Russians to cause as much human suffering in the country as you can. Even if you might have initially been a pro-Russian in Ukraine, once a Russian bomb blows up your apartment building and kills your neighbours, you might end up rethinking your position.

Even if the Russians win, this will force them to occupy the country instead of just installing a puppet ruler and letting the Ukrainian internal troops handle dissent. This will lead to massive strategic costs for Russia as they will have to fund and maintain their control over a hostile country in a way that is not so different to what happened during the Warsaw pact. It was the maintenance of this Soviet empire that eventually destroyed the Soviet Union.

In addition, if Russia is forced to keep troops permanently in Ukraine, any guerilla fighters in the area will have specifically Russian troops to target. Also, any strikes against the guerillas or crackdowns on dissent will be done specifically by the Russians. This makes Russia a clear occupying force in the eyes of the people. It would be much harder to raise a guerilla campaign if the people oppressing you are local kids from your hometown.

The sad reality is that the more people die and the more infrastructure is destroyed, the stronger Ukraine will eventually come out of this. I cannot see Russia being able to hold Ukraine indefinitely if things continue as they have. The Ukrainians have already started to feel that they are united in a war effort against a foreign enemy. The longer this lasts, the stronger this bond will be.

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Ukraine.
 
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Pro 2A in America = We need weapons to defend ourselves against tyranny. Pro 2A in Ukraine = we cant give civilians guns it will just result in more deaths, they should surrender against tyranny. Pick one!
I can't believe all the people that gobbles up this idiots' bait posting. Just ignore them, or don't. But know they've been bait posting for 3 days now.
 
I can't believe all the people that gobbles up this idiots' bait posting. Just ignore them, or don't. But know they've been bait posting for 3 days now.
Goys we need a hugbox here, Putin isn't winning hard enough and people are laughing at us promote Communism in the west.
 
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