Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[K-Hole]

You write all this shit and don't want to provide a dox? Gay.

Well, the dox has already been provided if you follow who I was replying to here. The gave the reddit page that has a massive autistic hard on for them. Lemme see if I got a link?

Well, got an extra one as well, there are probably more:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BaldAndBaldrDossier/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MisterBald/

This is pretty wild to hear for the first time. I've watched both of those channels on and off during lockdowns because other countries interest me a lot and had no idea. What's the source on Harald being a fake Norweigan?

If you follow the links above there are actual screenshots of Harald's passport that some fucking autist ZOOMED in to where he was posing going through customs on a new flight being an international jetsetter. We've all done it!

It gives Harald's real name. Hungarian. And not Norwegian at all. I think it even doxes his nationality, hence the claim. Birth of Origin and all that.

It's all there screenshotted by those fucking autists WHO REALLY HATE THEM.


I quite like Harald in fact. I like him more than Ben. But even Ben is ok, just don't trust him. Especially around your sister.

/pol/ did an expose where this was 'proven' as well. But that reddit has the screenshots.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Then get your ass on a plane and go commit some war crimes, nigger.

Not my war to fight and not yours either.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

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Ukies are doing okay shooting down RF craft, which should be the case, given how much of that gear they have been given. Stingers were a great equaliser in Afghanistan.

Stingers are old as shit. I am an army guy ive seen one of these in real life, they dont let you fuck with it unless that is your speciality but in training if you found one laying on the ground and needed to use it they explain how. But there was a certain cieling on how high that missile could go and it was only like 30k feet or so from memory (this may be classified idk )

Airplanes shouldn't have any issues at all and the fact they are getting shot down makes me think that Russian Bombers are low because they do not all have targeting pods but are using the old popsicle stick on a string sight manual sight that came from the Original Soviet Factory.

 

[IamnottheNSA]

Visa, Mastercard Grant Zelensky's Request, Ban All Operations in Russia​

>Zelensky's Request
Great, now I want this kike dead more than ever in my life. Preferrably along with Mastercard and Visa, payment processors are truly the enemy of the people.
At least I bought some crypto before the shit went down though.

 

[redeyejedi]

Ukrainian forces hitting a Russian tank with ATGMs.

 

[Matt Damon]

Not my war to fight and not yours either.

Then quit your internet tough guy faggotry.

 

[Octavia]

If you follow the links above there are actual screenshots of Harald's passport that some fucking autist ZOOMED in to where he was posing going through customs on a new flight being an international jetsetter. We've all done it!

It gives Harald's real name. Hungarian. And not Norwegian at all. I think it even doxes his nationality, hence the claim. Birth of Origin and all that.

It's all there screenshotted by those fucking autists WHO REALLY HATE THEM.


I quite like Harald in fact. I like him more than Ben. But even Ben is ok, just don't trust him. Especially around your sister.

/pol/ did an expose where this was 'proven' as well. But that reddit has the screenshots.

Interesting. Harald does certainly seem more genuine.
Never trust a youtuber I guess, LOL, they're all pedos, fake, or deepstate influencers.

 

[draggs]

I'm actually wondering the the US and other countries might seriously look at Air assault/Airborne forces the way we looked at Battleships post WW2 after this clownshow. I'm really looking forward to see if the expected Russian Naval infantry can do something or if they are gonna end up dying in droves too.

I think the difference is the US has been regularly carrying out these airborne operations for 20 years (and longer, but not as frequently as it has since 9/11). Not to this scale though, and with proper air support, and not against an opponent as well armed with fancy toys as Ukraine

But still, what we are seeing is that Russia doesn't have the money for all the toys that the US does. I hate to go "if this were the US" but if it were the airborne troops would have a shitload of air support and better equipment themselves than the VDV does. If the air support couldn't be guaranteed the drops probably wouldn't happen. US doctrine is so dependent on overwhelming firepower from the air backing its soldiers up on the ground in basically any and every operation, that's why the US has thousands of attack planes and helicopters of all those various types. Russia can't match those numbers of aircraft

 

[Octavia]

It isn't logistics. It's deadlier than the Ghost of Kiev. It's Russia's military bureaucracy, baby! Kremlin's cronies, crippling corruption and no fucking refunds. We've had the equivalent of school shootings in boot camps by soldiers who got bullied too badly by their officers and peers. To add insult to injury junior officers aren't allowed to act of their own initiative, so soldiers can basically die en masse over geriatric autism.

I've heard the amount of hazing new conscripts face (is that the right word? Forced military service). Upto and apparently worryingly often including actual sexual assault. I wouldn't be surprised either if Sasha, who never wanted to be in the army in the first place, had enough of being raped in the barracks one day and shot everyone else at the range.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Found a compilation of the VDV pictures I just posted, so there's a few new ones in here without fucking up the servers by posting a dozen pictures at once.

Spoiler

 

[Generic Retard]

Massed artillery, frontal assaults with tanks in front, Sabatouers behind enemy lines.....

Maneuvers second, artillery first.

That is the only way Russia knows how to fight because Russia still doesn't understand supply chains behind a spearhead.

So there is precedent for the rUsSiAn sABoTeUrS in USSR tactics?
From what the official Ukraine statements have been so far, I thought these were 100% propaganda.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I'm actually wondering the the US and other countries might seriously look at Air assault/Airborne forces the way we looked at Battleships post WW2 after this clownshow. I'm really looking forward to see if the expected Russian Naval infantry can do something or if they are gonna end up dying in droves too.

There was a debate to end the existence of the USMC after WW2 and Vietnam, all it did was change the purpose.

One of the successful airborne ops that I can think of, was the nights leading into Normandy to sabotage the German lines. Or the operations to kill OBL and Baghdadi.

Seems like these lot are not are bringing out the air power is the problem. No air support like a drone to bomb enemies is I guess why they keep getting pwned.

 

[The Wicked Mitch]

One of the funniest things Trump did was to threaten to cut off military welfare to these countries.

I live in one of those foreign contries that hides under America`s skirt. Their military, while skilled and awesome as individuals, is a token tripwire force. Everything about the country is really nice, because what they don`t spend on the military gets put into public works and making it a nicer place to live. “Close the American warmonger military bases` protests were a regular thing before 2016.

But then the God-Emperor ascended and threatened to end all of that. The “fuck the bases” marches were suddenly no longer a thing. The national government started whining through their media mouthpieces that they were DEFINTELY NOT freeloaders, and that they in fact “paid for 75% of the land that the American bases use,” failing to mention that this was a bargain at a hundred times the price.

The news started runnning hit pieces about the size of American military family housing in comparison to native housing, how the land was used, hidden camera footage of the insides of the on-post stores (“look at all of these products that aren`t available to our own citizens!”), and framed shots of the Baskin-Robbins and playgrounds.

It was funny as shit and I`m still disappointed that he didn`t follow through. Though I do like living here and that my children have access to all of the opportunities that would be outright denied to them if we lived in the states. Thanks, American taxpayers!

Couldn't agree more. I likewise live in one of these welfare nations and I've been telling people who talked shit about the state of US social programs that at least part of the reason that our system was "better" was because Big Daddy US was footing the bill for our military. Always got shit for it but everyone deep down knows it's true.

 

[Generic Retard]

Found a compilation of the VDV pictures I just posted, so there's a few new ones in here without fucking up the servers by posting a dozen pictures at once.

Spoiler

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Aren't those Ukrainians? I see yellow bands on the legs (sorry not enough milsperg to differentiate uniforms).

Edit: Uniform looks Russian, so the "yellow" is probably white then?

 

[Toothpaste]

I'm actually wondering the the US and other countries might seriously look at Air assault/Airborne forces the way we looked at Battleships post WW2 after this clownshow. I'm really looking forward to see if the expected Russian Naval infantry can do something or if they are gonna end up dying in droves too.

Air assault is still a great tactic if you have enough ordinance to neutralize any air defences beforehand and to prevent an organized enemy response.

The Russians have used a small fraction of the missiles and explosives that the US used to support their airborne operations in Iraq. This is apparently because they simply don't have enough ordinance to spare. They also lack the ability to effectively identify, target and neutralize threats and the ability to confirm which threats have been neutralized. This means that they have to blindly hit spots where they expect enemy AA and garrisons to be and just pray that their bombs have done the job before launching an attack.

As these pictures show, trusting solely in prayer might take you a bit higher up than you were expecting to go. Or lower, if these guys were not the best of the true believers.

 

[Jarolleon]

Not only that, the Boers actively encouraged importing ENORMOUS amounts of Bantu labor from all over Southern Africa because Afrikaners (like all lazy middle class whites) couldn't be bothered to mine their own gold but still wanted to maintain their freakishly high standard of living (white Rhodesians and South Africans had a higher standard of living than even white Americans at one point). They promptly shipped all of these new arrivals onto the shittiest plots of real estate in poorly constructed matchbox housing and treated them like shit, not to mention the Bantus who were actually born in South Africa having their private property seized and being shipped to the Bantustans. Modern day South Africa is a shithole but the Apartheid government was garbage in its own respects and was doomed by its monumental arrogance.

That ball started rolling because the Mfecane displaced so many Bantu nigs that they'd take any job to survive. Those mines are 2 miles deep, no wonder Whites didn't want to work in them when cheap labour was so abundant. By the time communism came along to give the nigs some political consciousness and AK-47s the Boers were already stuck in the habit.

Ultra-lefties don't understand how basic things work. They live in urban bugpods detached from reality and information about how the world works is passed to them through reddit. "Russia produce gas. Me no like Russia. Me use less gas." Simple explanations for simple people.

Thing is North America imports very little gas. We have a shitload and plenty of reserves. The gas problem is for euros and asian nations to figure out. Probably by development and transportation of gas from North America since we have a shitload of reserves. Turning down your thermostat or driving a smugmobile isn't going to matter for shit. We got away from relying on energy from outside the continent.

While it's mainly Eurofags using Russian gas, them boycotting it forces them to buy ours, bidding up the price. Of course bugmen don't care because they think we can have 100% electric renewable powered everything by now if it weren't for those damn Republicans, and see this price increase as a way to engineer this outcome. It's like a carbon tax, but instead of the government taking your money the Chicoms get dirt cheap gas, indirectly transferring wealth to them.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

So there is precedent for the rUsSiAn sABoTeUrS in USSR tactics?
From what the official Ukraine statements have been so far, I thought these were 100% propaganda.

No they totally exist.

It was always a big deal to put people behind german lines at night to fuck with shit before a major assault. Usually using stolen uniforms and what not, they laid mines, cut cables and blocked roads. Alot of credit was given to so called local 'Partisans' to make germany spend valuable manpower policing but in many cases these were just Infiltrators.

Totally SOP for Russia. I have no doubt they exist in Kiev right now fucking with things. Look how much manpower Ukraine has expended trying to find and eliminate them.

 

[Saleh]

Aren't those Ukrainians? I see yellow bands on the legs (sorry not enough milsperg to differentiate uniforms).

Maybe they're "Saboteurs".

 

[Toothpaste]

Aren't those Ukrainians? I see yellow bands on the legs (sorry not enough milsperg to differentiate uniforms).

White bands and camo with small green and black dots are both things that only Russians use.

Spoiler: Pattern Comparison

Russian:



Ukrainian:

 

[White_N]

The Ukrainian question

"The guys who are fighting there now are fighting to secure our future, the future of our children" - Putin
I give this speach 14 out of 88