Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[mudwogg]

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Geography is a subject too many take for granted. Especially evident in Americans.

 

[Dave_Ph]

If you are talking about the Euromaidan protests in 2014, yes, nothing new. The Ukrainian prosecutors under Poroshenko said, that the first victims during these protests have been killed using hunting rifles in a forest, and their bodies were brought back to Kiev as martyrs. (Source: can't find it right now, possibly memory holed, but read about it 5 years ago).

Yes, and I heard the recording of the 2 EU officials discussing it but its on Rumble and I can't get their links to post, anywhere.

One of the cops they tried to convict for it had lost a hand 6 years before. But was IDed in a photo holding a rifle with 2 hands. That's some Adam Schiff shit.

 

[Sammich]

Can someone answer me simply: is Russia losing? All my leftist friends and every post on reddit and Twatter is nothing but posts about how well Ukraine is doing and how Russia is moments away from giving up.

Now, I haven't been paying much attention to this war for reasons, but I would assume based on what I know of Russia's military, there's no way Ukraine can beat them, right? Plus, I've learned over the years that whatever reddit and Twatter is pushing, assume the opposite is true.

It's hard to get through all the bullshit. They seem to be taking ground, and the reaction of the west seems to be that ukraine isn't winning. I seen two or three articles talking about how we can help comedy jew president in exile. That seems to be painting a picture for me.

 

[Mussi]

I strongly doubt the Ukrainian govt is interested in surrendering territory.

They have nearly unlimited manpads, tens of thousands of dudes are flooding across the border to play cod4real and nearly every nation on earth is giving them money and weapons.

This is going to drag on until it's so ugly that someone gives Putin the Il Duce treatment, mark my words.

Even Il Duce didn't get the Il Duce treatment until the Italian government collapsed twice, the Allies completely removed all Italo-German resistance, and almost the entire north fell into partisan hands because the RSI and German armies had their hands full. Dictatorships are surprisingly resilient. The reasons that they have historically fell have been that they were only kept propped up by foreign powers who lost interest like in the countless examples of America doing so, were always on shaky ground, the dictator decided to loosen the boot ala Gorbachev, or have their homeland being invaded in a war like Mussolini. Even if Ukraine magically resists until Russia has no hope of winning, I guarantee you Putin's regime would not crumble.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Can someone answer me simply: is Russia losing? All my leftist friends and every post on reddit and Twatter is nothing but posts about how well Ukraine is doing and how Russia is moments away from giving up.

Now, I haven't been paying much attention to this war for reasons, but I would assume based on what I know of Russia's military, there's no way Ukraine can beat them, right? Plus, I've learned over the years that whatever reddit and Twatter is pushing, assume the opposite is true.

Putin is not having an overwhelming victory like he hoped. It's devolving into a war of attrition. He will win, but at great cost. And then there will be an insurgency that costs even more.

It's weird because many of my leftist friends think Zelensky is an American puppet (he is) and that the Ukrainian military is full of neo Nazis (it isn't.) But my shroom dealer isn't the best expert on geopolitics.

 

[Matt Damon]

What about all the upvotes?! DO THEY MEAN NOTHING?!

Apparently the upvotes aren't having the desired effect. A Ukrainian official commented on their new social media approach this morning:

 

[Mussi]

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The oligarchs either suck putin's dick or they get the old communists back who kill them anyway.

There is no other party in Russia

You're forgetting the LDPR, which is like United Russia on steriods and Czarism.

 

[mr.moon1488]

https://twitter.com/iBrockely/status/1500293839155728384

 

[LaxerBRO]

Lukashenko's Belarus is so shite, it's cucked even by starved and desperate refugees.
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It's probably because Belarus was a staging ground for the Northern offensive toward Kiev

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Oh, just for additional comedy.

The Democrats, who are the majority screaming for Russian blood?

Supported by the Russians and the USSR to the point that Ted Kennedy asked them to interfere in the 1984 elections.

Honkity honk honk... HONK HONK!

 

[Saleh]

lol no you dont get to just annex crimea and then pretend like you think them fucking with that is going to get parlayed into a blitzkrieg on moscow and the parts they didnt take from ukraine, you could say this about every inch a russian soldier crosses. "oops you were trying to retake this line i stepped over bet that means youre trying to nuke moscow now right? better just kill you dead here then"

and to add to that i dont even think russian leadership believes that

Russia has poured billions to make shure that Crimea survives and they built a bridge that connects Crimea to Russia and the loss of Sevastopol would be a strategic catastrophe for Russia since it's their most important port in the black sea.

Adding to that is the fact that 80 % of the northern black sea's natural gas (that is worth more than a trillion dolars) is located in the oceanic zone of Crimea.

With these facts in mind it's almost a fact that Russia will fight tooth and nail to keep Crimea under Russian control.

 

[naffatune]

So unless the Russians air dropped a manned vehicle into Kiev on the first day, it had to be Ukrainian.

air dropped

Bruh Rushiz b sendin truck from dey iPhone. Apple wtf yo

 

[JambledUpWords]

The people that advocate for higher gas prices for this war probably already have wages that can withstand it


Good luck with any Russians seeing that if so many are blocked from services

 

[Happy Fish]

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There is danger hair, and then there is this.

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Then quit your internet tough guy faggotry.

Sure, and then I'll go cry a bucket of tears that the Ukrainians make the soldiers who come to smash up their homes and kill their sons so a minority can go drag the region away to another country feel a little bad.

It's a fucking war, for their homes, against the Russians who started it. The Ukrainians ought to treat it like such and not coddle invaders because some Internet basement dweller faggot has a boner for Putin because he doesn't like troons. Kill yourself.

 

[MG-34]

Can someone answer me simply: is Russia losing? All my leftist friends and every post on reddit and Twatter is nothing but posts about how well Ukraine is doing and how Russia is moments away from giving up.

Now, I haven't been paying much attention to this war for reasons, but I would assume based on what I know of Russia's military, there's no way Ukraine can beat them, right? Plus, I've learned over the years that whatever reddit and Twatter is pushing, assume the opposite is true.

I'll say this. If I was still in the US military and we were in a war with similar conditions and was privy to the same information I would say we were losing this war. There's very few ways this war will end and none of them will be positive for Russia. Those who are saying the Ukrainians are losing men and material too as a sign of Russian advantage are the same that try to claim the US was victorious in the Vietnam war because we borke more of their stuff than they broke ours.

 

[mr.moon1488]

There is danger hair, and then there is this.

She looks like a parrot someone force-fed and put in a washing machine.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It will be interesting how Zelensky is treated if Putin does take the whole country and installs a puppet government.
Will he be treated as a government-in-exile like the Khmer Rouge and and take Ukraine's seat in the UN, or more like the Shah and basically be disowned.

He can join the Juan Guido club.

You could literally get a Hitler like political figure out of this and the west would totally be ok with sending him money and weapons until he inevitably turned on them

Wouldn't be the first time.

Not many people in the states know including a shitload of retarded chicanos that Cinco De Mayo comes from that war as it was the day that the French stooge lost in the Mexican Revolution in some battle over there.

Cinco de Mayo is the commemoration of the Battle of Puebla where 4000 Mexicans bet 8000 Frenchies, which took place after the Mexican-American War. But it wasn't the defining battle as they lost the Second Battle of Puebla, they just like to party to the memory of owning the French. Who wouldn't?

To be fair, MacArthur was doing extremely poorly in Korea, once the chinese got involved.
And got so butthurt about it that he wanted to drop nukes.
Truman got it right:

Wat? No, he pushed the Chinks back over the Yalu River and wanted to bomb them right there and then but Truman was a pussy and was scared of Stalin doing the same, as Russia was still friends with the CCP at the time.

 

[JambledUpWords]

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More people should do this so we know who to avoid. Also, I still think the Ukraine flag colors are ugly.

 

[The golden neckbeard]

Sure, and then I'll go cry a bucket of tears that the Ukrainians make the soldiers who come to smash up their homes and kill their sons so a minority can go drag the region away to another country feel a little bad.

It's a fucking war, for their homes, against the Russians who started it. The Ukrainians ought to treat it like such and not coddle invaders because some Internet basement dweller faggot has a boner for Putin because he doesn't like troons. Kill yourself.

Ukrainians treated their Russian ethnic minority like we treated Niggers. They literally shelled them daily for 7 years. All they had to do was stop and promise Russia no NATO missiles on Ukrainian soil. They did niether.