Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Kind of depends on whether or not he has the political capital for it. Supposedly part of the reason that their defense minister Serdyukov was replaced with Shoigu back in 2012 was that Serdyukov's work at cleaning up corruption and reforming the military made him too many enemies who wanted him gone. So Putin replaced him with career brownnoser Shoigu who was mainly good at not rocking the boat and reversed some of Serdyukov's more unpopular decisions.

So there's probably some oligarchs who directly benefited from the corruption that's lead to some of the problems that Russia's military has faced during the invasion. Meaning Putin might have to choose between maintaining their support, or fixing some of the problems of the military.
It may actually be useful for him to take down an oligarch or two. Helps corruption slightly, serves as a warning to the others, shows the public you did something, and you get to seize some assets.
 
"We're going to bomb some stuff."
"wtf no you can't warn us you're going to bomb stuff that has civilians near it!!! Think of the civilians that we will leave near it for you to bomb!!"
If he already knew this invasion was happening, I really wish he planned evacuations for people sooner. The invasion was no secret with Putin building up his military. Zelensky is getting more people killed because of lack of planning and assuming the US would just do as he says.
 
Kind of depends on whether or not he has the political capital for it. Supposedly part of the reason that their defense minister Serdyukov was replaced with Shoigu back in 2012 was that Serdyukov's work at cleaning up corruption and reforming the military made him too many enemies who wanted him gone. So Putin replaced him with career brownnoser Shoigu who was mainly good at not rocking the boat and reversed some of Serdyukov's more unpopular decisions.

So there's probably some oligarchs who directly benefited from the corruption that's lead to some of the problems that Russia's military has faced during the invasion. Meaning Putin might have to choose between maintaining their support, or fixing some of the problems of the military.
What if part of Putin’s plan here is to find the areas where corruption has weakened forces before they need to be used in a big fight against a real enemy?
 
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"They announced they're going to hit a legitimate war target which happen to be highly populated areas, imagine the arrogance of giving us a head up so we can evaluate the areas and minimise our own civilian casualities"
Retard STILL won't order evacuations to minimize civilian casualties like any sensible leader will. If Putin was genociding Ukrainians Zelensky would be his camp commandant.
 
Zelensky is getting more people killed because of lack of planning and assuming the US would just do as he says.
It's not a bug it's a feature.

Arming up civilians, not allowing surrender of towns, not evacuating areas and not allowing a large group of the population to leave together can only have one goal and that's maximising your own civilian loses for emotional blackmail.
 
Find it funny that the same guy who posts videos of marauders getting their asses slapped on Twitter also posts wholesome animal vids.

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Pretty sure he just posts these vids to attract average joes to his account so that they end up seeing his war stuff. lol
 
I'd say that's very optimistic. Putin himself benefits greatly from some of it. Plus he keeps people in line with bribes and special tax free status.
Specifically corruption that has weakened forces. I doubt anyone anywhere cares about a bit o grift - but when *all* is grift it can get bad
 
"We're going to bomb some stuff."
"wtf no you can't warn us you're going to bomb stuff that has civilians near it!!! Think of the civilians that we will leave near it for you to bomb!!"

The Ukes should put plenty of MANPADS in those areas, do point defenses of the factory areas. Don't believe the Russians are sending strategic bombers. Strike aircraft could well be vulnerable. Drones...not sure if they have enough of a heat signature for a Stinger to home in on.

Maybe it's time for Uke drones to hit Russian/Belarus power distribution stations in range. Knock out some big transformers, maybe. Not always quick and easy to replace.
 

CNN, ABC and CBS News to stop broadcasting in Russia after Putin's threat to lock up journalists for 12 years: Bloomberg, BBC and Canada's CBC 'temporarily suspend' operations​

  • CNN has said it would stop broadcasting in Russia while Bloomberg and the BBC said they would temporarily suspend the work of their journalists there
  • CBS News stated that it is no longer broadcasting from the country
  • ABC News has several correspondents working in the country currently but none were broadcasting from Russia on Friday night
  • CBC Canada 'temporarily suspended' the work of their journalists in the country
 
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