Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[6MillionCoofs]

Here have cringe

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Please tell me how much you want Russains to fuck you without ssying you want Russains to fuck you.

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Something that sorta bums me out is the lack of videos showing dead Ukrainian soldiers on Russian telegrams.

That's not to say that I'm a staunch pro-Rus guy; it's just to say that if there's very little videos about that, it means that there's no concrete proof of deaths on the Ukie side.

I realize that Russian soldiers don't usually post media like that because they're on the winning side, and so they have nothing to prove. Also, to do such things would mean giving away their positions, so when they take photos of the dead, they stick to taking photos of those that they killed in the rural areas outside a city, which are usually generic environments that are hard to geolocate, kind of like taking a selfie in front of a white wall so you don't get doxed easily. The same thing goes when Russians want to take pics of destroyed or captured Ukie vehicles.

The only video of dead Ukie soldiers that I posted was taken by other Ukie soldiers. Speaking of Ukies, they're obviously very fond of taking or posting videos and photos of dead Russians and their destroyed/captured convoys. Just go on pro-Ukrainian Twitters like @666_mancer, @worldonalert and others, and you'll see what I mean.

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If you ask me why I think Ukies post more vids like this, it's probably because generating the perception that they're winning the war matters much more than keeping their positions completely secret. If they can generate this kind of perception, it's much easier for the Zelensky's International Legion to get foreign volunteers.

So, if you happen to see an account that posts dead Ukie soldiers, let me know. I've scoured through lots of Rus telegram accounts and I couldn't find anything significant. This basically leaves the count of Ukrainian army casualties up to my imagination, and as of now, I think they're in deep trouble.

Videos of dead soldiers are the most concrete forms of proof for casualties in a war. You can fake being an enemy soldier and getting captured. You can't fake lying on the floor with your limbs awkwardly bent, blood dripping from your temple and your guts hanging out.

An addition to this, a lot of pro Russian accounts are that of people who toe the party line so to speak, that this is a peacekeeping operation and that Ukrainians are welcoming to the Russians for the most part, posting dead bodies of Ukrainians would damage that claim even if they're soldiers.

 

[Marley Rathbone]

Here have cringe

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I don't think they realize that showing their tits is not really offensive to men.

 

[Lone MacReady]

Here have cringe

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That Paris? I thought I saw some burning churchs and imported muslims mass raping in the background. I think they have their own problems to deal with, much like America does.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

I don't think they realize that showing their ties is not really offensive to men.

Don't fucking tell them.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I don't think they realize that showing their ties is not really offensive to men.

Some of them had no tits.

That is extremely offensive.

 

[Matt Damon]

you know shits getting real when a bunch of wahmain take off their tops in protest and take to body painting their boobs.

Whether they're at a night club or protesting mass killing, all women understand is attention-seeking based on exhibiting their bodies.

And they say men are single-minded.

 

[make_it_so]

So while driving about today, I passed two houses that had Ukrainian flags out.

Anyone encountered anything similar?

 

[Blake Chortles]

So whats the over under on this being over in two weeks? With the way things are going the east will be encircled sometime this week. Kiev could fall any day but that’s extremely politically dependent.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

So while driving about today, I passed two houses that had Ukrainian flags out.

Anyone encountered anything similar?

I've mainly just seen retarded profile picture changes.

 

[Niggaplease]

Some of them had no tits.

That is extremely offensive.

they all had tits, just not all had big boobies, also its france, the idea of large boobage in france is different than the usa.

 

[JosephStalin]

And then what? All is forgiven? NATO disbands?

What's he gaining from this war? He's already got most of the world against him now, one way or another. If what Putin has sent into Ukraine is his "A" team, then his military is far worse off than anyone could have expected. Been publicly shown that the Russian Army can be stopped and defeated, at least tactically. And it isn't out of the imagination that the Ukes do something in Russia.

Ending the war stops the bleeding on both sides. Ukraine will need a good deal of repair/reconstruction. The Russian economy will need help. Relaxing some sanctions could well happen. But the Mississippi River of bad blood between Ukraine and Russia will still get wider and deeper. The issues will remain. NATO remains and will strengthen.

Best I can do. What do you think would happen if Putin declared victory and left?

 

[Rezza]

Something that sorta bums me out is the lack of videos showing dead Ukrainian soldiers on Russian telegrams.

That's not to say that I'm a staunch pro-Rus guy; it's just to say that if there's very little videos about that, it means that there's no concrete proof of deaths on the Ukie side.

I realize that Russian soldiers don't usually post media like that because they're on the winning side, and so they have nothing to prove. Also, to do such things would mean giving away their positions, so when they take photos of the dead, they stick to taking photos of those that they killed in the rural areas outside a city, which are usually generic environments that are hard to geolocate, kind of like taking a selfie in front of a white wall so you don't get doxed easily. The same thing goes when Russians want to take pics of destroyed or captured Ukie vehicles.

The only video of dead Ukie soldiers that I posted was taken by other Ukie soldiers. Speaking of Ukies, they're obviously very fond of taking or posting videos and photos of dead Russians and their destroyed/captured convoys. Just go on pro-Ukrainian Twitters like @666_mancer, @worldonalert and others, and you'll see what I mean.

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If you ask me why I think Ukies post more vids like this, it's probably because generating the perception that they're winning the war matters much more than keeping their positions completely secret. If they can generate this kind of perception, it's much easier for the Zelensky's International Legion to get foreign volunteers.

So, if you happen to see an account that posts dead Ukie soldiers, let me know. I've scoured through lots of Rus telegram accounts and I couldn't find anything significant. This basically leaves the count of Ukrainian army casualties up to my imagination, and as of now, I think they're in deep trouble.

Videos of dead soldiers are the most concrete forms of proof for casualties in a war. You can fake being an enemy soldier and getting captured. You can't fake lying on the floor with your limbs awkwardly bent, blood dripping from your temple and your guts hanging out.

As @Vince McMahon said, if the Russian are winning, shouldn't they posted videos and pics gloating that they killed won over the "nazis"? To me it just sound like the officers are enforcing strict Opsec after how their soldiers leaked info during Syria and Donbass 2014. Well, that or perhaps the Russian just confiscated any devices from their troops

 

[Getting tard comed]

If he already knew this invasion was happening, I really wish he planned evacuations for people sooner. The invasion was no secret with Putin building up his military. Zelensky is getting more people killed because of lack of planning and assuming the US would just do as he says.

Slightly incorrect. Reports are Russia told him "Recognize the Donbaus Republics or we invade you tomorrow". Zelensky's response was to call London and Washington on what to do and both told him ignore it. He then gets his country invaded on the presumed assumption that the West would help out. He is a puppet leader installed by the US state department. He has a villa in Italy and Florida to his name. He doesn't get those if he surrenders. He is beholden to what his masters in Washington tell him to do and they don't want the war to end, so Ukraine isn't surrendering.

 

[Gender Fluids BLEVE]

Something that sorta bums me out is the lack of videos showing dead Ukrainian soldiers on Russian telegrams.

That's not to say that I'm a staunch pro-Rus guy; it's just to say that if there's very little videos about that, it means that there's no concrete proof of deaths on the Ukie side.

I realize that Russian soldiers don't usually post media like that because they're on the winning side, and so they have nothing to prove. Also, to do such things would mean giving away their positions, so when they take photos of the dead, they stick to taking photos of those that they killed in the rural areas outside a city, which are usually generic environments that are hard to geolocate, kind of like taking a selfie in front of a white wall so you don't get doxed easily. The same thing goes when Russians want to take pics of destroyed or captured Ukie vehicles.

The only video of dead Ukie soldiers that I posted was taken by other Ukie soldiers. Speaking of Ukies, they're obviously very fond of taking or posting videos and photos of dead Russians and their destroyed/captured convoys. Just go on pro-Ukrainian Twitters like @666_mancer, @worldonalert and others, and you'll see what I mean.

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If you ask me why I think Ukies post more vids like this, it's probably because generating the perception that they're winning the war matters much more than keeping their positions completely secret. If they can generate this kind of perception, it's much easier for the Zelensky's International Legion to get foreign volunteers.

So, if you happen to see an account that posts dead Ukie soldiers, let me know. I've scoured through lots of Rus telegram accounts and I couldn't find anything significant. This basically leaves the count of Ukrainian army casualties up to my imagination, and as of now, I think they're in deep trouble.

Videos of dead soldiers are the most concrete forms of proof for casualties in a war. You can fake being an enemy soldier and getting captured. You can't fake lying on the floor with your limbs awkwardly bent, blood dripping from your temple and your guts hanging out.

From earlier in the thread, captured Russians allegedly said that before the invasion kicked off, they all had their phones confiscated. If true, that would go a long way towards explaining why we are seeing barely anything from the Russian side - they don't have convenient ways to share their side of it at the moment.

 

[make_it_so]

So whats the over under on this being over in two weeks? With the way things are going the east will be encircled sometime this week. Kiev could fall any day but that’s extremely politically dependent.

It depends really on how well the Russians actually are doing. One map shows that they're about to encircle the bulk of the Ukrainian forces in the east, another shows that they've barely moved the lines at all.

Plus their convoy losses look like they're starting to get pretty damn severe.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

So whats the over under on this being over in two weeks? With the way things are going the east will be encircled sometime this week. Kiev could fall any day but that’s extremely politically dependent.

Most reasonable discussion seems to point to within two weeks. Very likely.

 

[Captain Autism69]

What's he gaining from this war? He's already got most of the world against him now, one way or another. If what Putin has sent into Ukraine is his "A" team, then his military is far worse off than anyone could have expected. Been publicly shown that the Russian Army can be stopped and defeated, at least tactically. And it isn't out of the imagination that the Ukes do something in Russia.

Ending the war stops the bleeding on both sides. Ukraine will need a good deal of repair/reconstruction. The Russian economy will need help. Relaxing some sanctions could well happen. But the Mississippi River of bad blood between Ukraine and Russia will still get wider and deeper. The issues will remain. NATO remains and will strengthen.

Best I can do. What do you think would happen if Putin declared victory and left?

The war has been going on for just over a week, and Putin's not gone balls to the wall on this yet. I don't subscribe to this Russins are bad aspect when we have a lot of fog of war, and unrealistic expecations like the failure to take Kiev in 2 days is an utter shambles.

 

[JosephStalin]

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What the hell, some nice hooters there.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

So while driving about today, I passed two houses that had Ukrainian flags out.

Anyone encountered anything similar?

Nothing like that, though there was a guy in front of me at the grocery store checkout line who flipped out when the cashier asked him how his day was going. He went off on some rant about WW3 and Nazis. It was pretty funny.