Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Huge ass thread, so this was likely already posted. Picked up from /pol/ I believe, so it's likely horseshit doomposting, you decide:


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Huge ass thread, so this was likely already posted. Picked up from /pol/ I believe, so it's likely horseshit doomposting, you decide:


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Yeah seen this and X to doubt

Ukraine should continue fighting as Russia has already lost it will just take them time to realize it. Ukraine is raising new forces in the west while Russia can't even logistically support a two-day offensive in the east anymore. Even if Russia finally breaks Kiev and Kharkov and the Ukrainian army west of the DPR and LPR so what, they don't have the men or supplies or money to occupy the country. They don't have the men or supplies or money to march on Lvov, frankly. They're knee-deep in a quagmire and they're Russian so we know they're gonna go straight ahead until they're ears-deep. Putin can't do anything but win, he'd be coup'd so fast, but he can't win either. Fucking monkey Putin is 100% accurate
 
the bottom line is that Russia invaded them and are putting innocent civilians in danger.
You can just as reasonably say that Ukraine fucked around with the vital strategic interests of its neighbor and put Russians in danger, which demanded action on the part of its political leaders. Or you can say it's the US's fault for cajoling Ukraine into doing so as part of yet more foreign adventurism by proxy.

These are not simple questions with simple solutions.
 
SWIFT and the general anti-Russian hysteria means that even if you exclude sanctions, you either cannot pay for it reliably, or you get shithammered on socmed for "profiteering".
To add to that Saudi Arabia who has enough reserves to keep prices down refuse to do so. From what I gather it’s because of the grain exports Russia provides and souring of relations between them and the US because we are now their competition in the oil market. Biden will probably try to warm up to the saudis and the Venezuelans to get them to produce more oil or release some reserves.
 
Lol I still think the Saudis are going to have the biggest windfall from this because I'd be amazed if Russia doesn't sign some exclusivity deal on oil and gas with China, which will leave the Saudis with a near-monopoly on oil.

I think people are being a little optimistic (or pessimistic?) about Russia just shifting all exports to China if Europe follows through on their intentions to cut them off, it will help somewhat but its not enough to make up for the loss if other sources of production ramp up and keep the price stable.

And that's assuming China is fully on board and I don't think they will be. There are inherent dangers China would face by relieving solely on Russia for their oil needs, and good reasons to keep a diversified source of imports and maintaining economic ties/influence with the middle east. We (the US) have been able to theoretically isolate ourselves from the global oil market for the better part of a decade with simple import/export controls, but that was never seriously considered and we've keep a presence in that region of the world because having a hand in what goes on there is beneficial.

China is clearly angling to play the same game with all the military bases their building on major sea routes. I'm sure they'll take what they can but they have ambitions far larger than making a vassal out of Russia.

In the case of gas its trickier for Europe to find alternatives compered to oil, but Russian gas exports are only like a third the value their oil exports. More importantly China's total gas imports are less than 1/10th of what Europe imports and it will take along time for that to change, so Europe has time especially if oil imports are cut off and Russia is starved for money with no readily available alternative market.

This is all assuming sanctions and unilateral actions that might limit Russia's access to technology and manpower wont cause significant harm to their oil industry as well.
 
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Huge ass thread, so this was likely already posted. Picked up from /pol/ I believe, so it's likely horseshit doomposting, you decide:


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Ah, this is the supposedly confession of a Russian intelligence agent about the failure of this invasion. Personally I'm kinda leaning to believing this is true. There are some details that made me so, like the mention of Russo-Japanese War. That's something not many people in the west know of, but a very important event in Russian history
 
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You can just as reasonably say that Ukraine fucked around with the vital strategic interests of its neighbor and put Russians in danger, which demanded action on the part of its political leaders. Or you can say it's the US's fault for cajoling Ukraine into doing so as part of yet more foreign adventurism by proxy.

These are not simple questions with simple solutions.
Just because the west gave them their own currency which is worth 4 times more then the Russians and their ability to establish their own country doesn't mean some faggot with tanks can just come in and steal it without a fight. Yeah its Ukraines fault for wanting to join NATO because they were afraid of an invasion that is a current reality especially after what happened in 2014 with Cremea.
 
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Ah, this is the supposedly confession of a Russian intelligence agent about the failure of this invasion. Personally I'm kinda leaning to believing this is true. There are some details that made me so, like the mention of Russo-Japanese War. That's something not many people in the west know of, but a very important event in Russian history
Could just be a convincing fake written by some other Russian or Slav with a degree in politics/history or something.
 
i forgot you were a fag. reread black literature from back then, the blacks were always ungrateful and always crime ridden and a drain on society. it doesn't matter how you switch their situations the results are the same. for fucks sake look at african immigrants, they regress to the mean.

could you touch blacks hair like you could white guys. could you call them niggers like you could white guys? could you mock their religion like you could white guys? how did they treat animals?

you won't answer those questions because you know i'm right. hey fuckface look into how the black units acted before de-segregation. they were the original 41% meme.
You are borderline special needs. Why the fuck would I wanna touch their hair? Such a goddamn strange remark. Since you asked, yeah, we called them niggers all the time, they called us white devils. Racial humor is fun as hell as long as they aren't uptight faggots up their own ass like you appear to be.

We were bivouacked out for drills once for 3-4 days. One of the black guys there had this great idea to fuck with our NCOs and first LT.. He tied a rope into a rough looking noose and put it on his neck, and started running all over the place, claiming I tried to hang him. I came in about a minute after him and asked if anyone seen sgt blackdude.. said we had some stuff to finish. Everyone freaked the fuck out, aside from the half dozen or so dudes that heard us talking about it. This was the mid 90s out in lostinthewoods, and our ncos at first freaked out then started laughing, the 1st LT was in full panic. Now if that happened today i'd probably get article 15'd, stripped of rank and discharged under dishonorable conditions.

See, it's not that you are stupid, that's fine, many folks are.. It's more the idea you think you know something, you think you are some sort of goddamn authority, but you dont' and you aren't. Mostly chuckle at some of your bait posts, but don't get the idea you aren't a fucking idiot. You are functionally retarded.
 
You can just as reasonably say that Ukraine fucked around with the vital strategic interests of its neighbor and put Russians in danger, which demanded action on the part of its political leaders. Or you can say it's the US's fault for cajoling them into doing so as part of yet more foreign adventurism by proxy.
It's crazy to me how people still don't understand this. Russia is doing what's in its best interest. You don't have to like it but they didn't wake up one day and decide to invade Ukraine out of the blue. Zelensky fucked around with them and found out. Now he's hiding like a faggot while his countrymen are dropping like flies. There's nothing heroic or honorable about that, it's disgraceful. I really hope the Russians capture him alive if he hasn't fled to Poland already. I can only imagine what they have in store for him.
 
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