Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[CaesarCzech]

Imperial overextension coupled with having its primary productive lands outside of the imperial core?

You could certainly argue the former for the US but definitely not the latter.

oh no when it comes to later i think what will happen is part of the Core will no longer consider themselves part of the core. the Social Wars from Early Rome transporterd to Equivalent of Late Rome.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

The United States' biggest problem is that they insist on following rules

Am I being trolled here or something

The Ruble has lost slightly over half of it's value in only two weeks, any thoughts that the Ruble is fine is pure, unadulterated, cope.
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Normally this would be extremely bad (and it's definitely not good) but idk what it actually means in reality given they're basically no longer allowed to import anything from the West no more.

So the US government has shown an interest in not wanting him dead until it was convinient to claim he got got and dumped in the ocean.

The whole official story about OBL "um, yeah... he was in Pakistan the whole time... no, we can't withdraw from Afghanistan now... no, we're not going to hold the Paki government accountable in any way, they'll keep getting foreign aid... no, no, you can't see the body, because we, uh, buried him at sea? Out of... respect, would you believe?" is sus af and you'd have to be literally retarded to believe it, so of course people did.

But tbf they knew boomers couldn't resist masturbating over their grills to stories of BADASS NAVY SEALS, hell yeah brother

 

[AnOminous]

History is a lie agreed upon. If you want to be on the "right side of history", you are admitting you are a proliferator of lies.

I'd rather be on the Right Side of Truth.

The funny thing about the latter is you can never really be sure you actually are.

More or less this:

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

 

[Fcret]

On the topic of US oil going abroad: Whether it's the greens, the commies, the chuds, or even the pedolord himself, there's going to be an oil export ban combined with increased drilling (which is already happening). It's been on the table since last year, since before the Russia crisis was even on the radar.

 

[BradCarter]

One year ago, The Experts were telling us that inflation was transitory.

Listen inflation isn't happening. It's a temporary price increase due to a labor shortage. And if inflation is happening it's temporary. If it's not temporary, it's only a small amount. If it's the largest amount since the 80's, don't worry if we pass my infrastructure bill and spend 3 trillion then inflation will stop. Idiot.

 

[Happy Fish]

I guess the only oil and gas exists in Russia.

Yeah I mean if only there were a domestic pipeline that supplied us. Like the one Biden closed down as one of his first acts as Pretender

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

Kiwi before possible Oil Ban: Globohomo fucking sucks and countries need to stop relentlessly trading everything with each other and be more independent
Kiwi now that Oil Ban is on table: Take it off the table! I don't want to pay 5, 6, 7, 8 dollars for gas!
And people wonder why Globohomo became a thing, sucking off a country they hate makes shit cheaper to keep the consoomers in check.

 

[CaesarCzech]

I guess the only oil and gas exists in Russia.


You don't have a choice lol.

You are right but remember that Not raising your sword at this moment /=/ Submission its Glowie who wants to act now, the true action will happen when the Empire is bleeding. Dont want to pull consooomer Analogy, but the moment you need loyality that is the moment you shall fall. My dear Mufasa.

 

[AnOminous]

Watch some Vietnam war shit, niggers pulled their weight in combat.

Frankly the U.S. military is the best argument there is for multi-culti, well other than troons anyway. Although practically anyone who was ever in it would disagree, but I'm not talking about how it was for you, but how useful it is for the rest of us that it exists.

 

[CaesarCzech]

Kiwi before possible Oil Ban: Globohomo fucking sucks and countries need to stop relentlessly trading everything with each other and be more independent
Kiwi now that Oil Ban is on table: Take it off the table! I don't want to pay 5, 6, 7, 8 dollars for gas!
And people wonder why Globohomo became a thing, sucking off a country they hate makes shit cheaper to keep the consoomers in check.

Inst it because We actually like Russia ? if this happened to Chinks you wouldnt see these complaints.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

Its temporary pricing idiot.

You do not understand economics retard. This is going to have long term consequences and retards like you are going along with it because "PUTIN BAD" and the Americans don't have shit figured out with the Saudis because they sold them some components for a missile defense system. The latest news is that Biden is planning on traveling to Saudi Arabia to beg and plead with them to fix this situation. They're so desperate they are trying to court Iran. You know nothing retard.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I don't think people in the thread realize we are currently in a soft war and afterwords will be in a cold war 2.0

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

You are right but remember that Not raising your sword at this moment /=/ Submission its Glowie who wants to act now, the true action will happen when the Empire is bleeding. Dont want to pull consooomer Analogy, but the moment you need loyality that is the moment you shall fall. My dear Mufasa.

Are you just typing random words at this point?

 

[CaesarCzech]

They largely leave the Proles alone. The propaganda and rule by fear is for the Outer Party.

I wouldnt call slow rolling it leaving Proles alone, look at entertaiment now following the Long. March throught Academia

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

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On the topic of US oil going abroad: Whether it's the greens, the commies, the chuds, or even the pedolord himself, there's going to be an oil export ban combined with increased drilling (which is already happening). It's been on the table since last year, since before the Russia crisis was even on the radar.

Will this actually unfuck gas prices or is it just for show/grift?

 

[дядя Боря]

The Ruble has lost slightly over half of it's value in only two weeks, any thoughts that the Ruble is fine is pure, unadulterated, cope.
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you can no longer officially buy dollars or euros in Russia, at least not in St. Pete's. You can still buy them on the black market.

so the whole exchange rate is bullshit for an average rusian, if you know a place where a rusian can buy dollars at that price, let me know.

 

[mold]

They largely leave the Proles alone. The propaganda and rule by fear is for the Outer Party.

the inner party outer party proles tripartite division is platonic and doesn't map onto reality.

for example we live in a world where a child of proles can identify into the "outer party" by taking some community college classes and yellin on twitter. that doesn't remotely work at all with the social structure of 1984.

 

[Happy Fish]

Are you just typing random words at this point?

Its not quite random enough to be poorly trained AI but close enough.

 

[Strix454]

I mean, when the US invaded they straight up just thought the Soviets were back.

Scott Horton argues that many in the Taliban actually passed off information about OBL's whereabouts so he could get whacked guilt-free prior to 9/11 (as he was officially wanted for part of the 1993 attack), and the US didn't act on it. Even if one doubts that story, the fact is that there were Marines under Mattis' command available to cut off his escape at Tora Bora and they were told to stay put. So the US government has shown an interest in not wanting him dead until it was convinient to claim he got got and dumped in the ocean.

The Taliban at that time (and most of the time up to the present) was/is Pakistan's creature. But the upper reaches of Pakistani Politics/Military/Security Services were always divided on matters related to Bin Laden. They could very well have been working at cross-purposes with regard to him at many points. With one faction (and its proxies within the taliban) leaking information to get him killed while the other side protected him.
And one way to look at his location in his final years was that it was a sort of safe form of house arrest within Pakistan until a time when Pakistan found it useful (or politically possible) to dispose of him.

 

[CaesarCzech]

I don't think people in the thread realize we are currently in a soft war and afterwords will be in a cold war 2.0

I just hope the pain will be useful in strenghtening the people and making them hurt enough to lash out at the system instead of crushing the people and strenghtening the system.