Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

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Poor woman, was desperately looking to get away from white cishet men, so she has to resort to a white cishet man with a well oiled marketing ploy to grab people like her instead.
That is honestly such a joke isn’t it? To nick Photo of an Orange's usual line, he is colonising diversity.
How about read some fucking books by someone whose not a cis man instead of Olly fucking Thorn.
Maybe even something that wasn’t made within the last 12 months
 
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5:00- "Transphobes" in the comments are "telling lies" when they say things like his voice doesn't pass.

17:28- Says he finds it almost impossible to be empathetic towards "TERFs.... and transphobes" even though he "knows" a lot of them are coming from a place of "vulnerability, ignorance, and even fear". Finds it difficult to empathize with people who get "suckered into that kind of thing". Quite telling that his first thought was that he doesn't have empathy for feminist women.
I keep saying I'm done ranting about this and then both Contra and Olly say within a few days of each other that they don't care about TERFs. I'll keep it brief but to slightly PL as a person from a non-white non-western background you just have to get exposed to disparaging and even outright genocidal comments on the internet, including here on KF. I can stand it just fine as some random who wastes time online, but not only is it too much for these people to listen to things they might not want to hear from women but they go out of their way to be extra condescending towards them without even bothering to hear what they have to say.

I'm glad that these people are so bad at managing themselves in front of people they can't help but be offputting even when they're pretending to be innocent victims of genocide or whatever.
 
Definitely got that autism stare.
Wouldn't be surprised if Olly is on the spectrum with how little he seems to grasp social situations, or how everything he finds hilarious is the least funniest thing ever.
If he had it, he'd milk it for everything it's worth and would have had access to diagnosis and early intervention in childhood.
 
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Definitely got that autism stare.
Wouldn't be surprised if Olly is on the spectrum with how little he seems to grasp social situations, or how everything he finds hilarious is the least funniest thing ever.
I'd rather bet on narcissism. many narcissists also don't understand social situations since it's all about them and they don't really care about how other people feel or think. they do care about how they're perceived, but sometimes they're so blinded by their self delight that they can't see how annoying they are.
 
Thanks to all your handy guides I actually managed to stomach some of the live stream (didn’t bother with the vaccines video because covid is so 2021 and like everyone else, I’m over it - literally and figuratively).

now that the swellings gone down, things are looking a little… well……

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Oliver has transitioned into Neil from The Young Ones!

He’s deffo had something done to his teeth (’chad’ 🙊 images are from his Elon Musk video)
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at some points in the live stream, he doesn’t look *too* bad.

However, I think that’s because he’s using a ’beautify’ type video filter - when he gets animated and moves around a lot, shit gets weird,

I clipped a few little snippets out for those who haven’t felt their daily portion of disgust yet:

”January has been hard for me” (would love to know what a body language analysis person makes of this)

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Fake humble - man cough:

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This video was bought to you by the letters Ay Gee PEE

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as was this one
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Me? Disingenuous?
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I did find one still that makes Olly look like a real girl…

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Unfortunately for Olly, that real girl is Sonia from Eastenders:

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And Sonia was played by a proper actress.

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Definitely got that autism stare.
Wouldn't be surprised if Olly is on the spectrum with how little he seems to grasp social situations, or how everything he finds hilarious is the least funniest thing ever.

I had him as more calculating than that.. and you see the narc rage under the surface/ but I don’t know, it’s like, is he a narc that needs to buy into himself, or is he a sociopath that knows he’s a shitpiece and doesn’t care?

Probs just a narc..but then the darker shit (the Contra swipes, particularly) hint at a darker thing.
Yes he’s autisticly clueless in loads of the embarrassing up talking he does if himself, and the “OMG leave it be” referencing Contra positively, constantly, BUT then there’s the Faceshopping shit.. god, maybe he is genuinely that clueless that he didn’t actually read that as threatening? And it was another awful, cringey attempt at homage?
I'd rather bet on narcissism. many narcissists also don't understand social situations since it's all about them and they don't really care about how other people feel or think. they do care about how they're perceived, but sometimes they're so blinded by their self delight that they can't see how annoying they are.
I'm 100% sold on him being a subclinical narcissist tbh, if not a full blown one (hard to call).

Narcissists, autists and sociopaths all have one thing in common which people are picking up on - lack of affective empathy. What "affective empathy" means is being able to feel what other people feel; so for example looking at someone sad and feeling sad for them. Intelligent people who lack affective empathy can develop cognitive empathy, which is essentially like "if I call this person ugly, then I think they will be upset with me for doing that" but it's something they have to work out and is not a reflex. In severe cases they'll not even understand facial expressions, and an experiment to teach sociopaths how to recognise facial expressions (in the hopes of teaching them empathy) just made them better manipulators because they learned what facial expressions meant.

Speaking in very broad strokes (probably to the point of inaccuracy) but the big difference between autists, narcissists and sociopaths is motivation. In general, autistic people often have obsessions they're super invested in and sensory etc. issues (hate their routine disrupted, might feel overwhelmed from certain stimuli etc). Usually their motivation for doing hurtful stuff is pursuing their obsessions (e.g. "I want to play my video game, so stop trying to get me to go to my mother's funeral") or managing their distress (e.g. "I always eat green beans for dinner on Thursdays and we don't have any green beans, and now I'm screaming about it because I cannot handle not having green beans and maybe if I scream I'll get them"). It's a developmental disorder. They won't necessarily want to be hurtful, they just don't necessarily understand their behaviour is inappropriate or at points be unable to manage their behaviour (especially the lower functioning ones - high functioning autists will often be indistinguishable from a neurotypical person but will be having an internal struggle). For an extreme example, think like Chris-Chan attempting to hit Snyder with his car.

Narcissists and sociopaths have personality disorders - specifically narcissistic personality disorder or antisocial personality disorder. Narcissists are very fragile people who feel empty inside and compensate for that with grandiosity. They want to be admired and thought of as special, and have no remorse for manipulating people to achieve that. Every relationship in their life is geared towards that end. They're largely incapable of remorse beyond "I'm remorseful that this thing I did has made my life more difficult". If you piss them off then they'll generally either instantly cut ties and never look back because they've stopped caring, try to ruin your life in any way possible or - if you've cut ties - do anything they can to provoke a reaction out of you (because any attention you give them is validation). They're aware of morality but don't care, and will entirely rewrite history to make themselves justified. If you ever encounter someone who is diagnosed with NPD run the opposite direction immediately, even more so than if you meet someone with BPD who can be a lot more manageable if you're not their "favourite person". There's a reason over 50% of stalkers are diagnosable with Cluster B (I imagine more of them are BPD, but there's a lot of overlap). I had the misfortune of having a brief relationship with a narcissist. They spent the majority of the next decade stalking me and sending me violent threats mixed with love bombing attempts (no, the police did not help). They even managed to get hired at my favourite bakery, and when I immediately stopped going to that bakery they got fired by putting through a fake birthday cake order to my workplace and then turning up to deliver it to me. It only stopped when by a wonderful miracle they got hit by a lorry and died. Occasionally I go to their grave and smoke a cigarette while staring at it. They'll generally only get diagnosed if they go for therapy because "everyone else seems to have a problem with me" and are notoriously treatment resistant because you essentially cannot make them see how terrible they truly are (or if you can, you can't make them care). It's like trying to get a brain damaged person to stop being brain damaged. For an extreme example think like Portobella Stanky Isabella Janke encouraging Chris-Chan to rape Barb, then being thrilled she was the "best troll in history", and then attempting to do painfully obvious interference by throwing Fiona under the bus/puppeteering GiBi, and not understanding how obvious and unconvincing those lies were while doing the classic narc thing of dismissing everyone pointing out the giant holes in her stories as "sooooo dumb".

Sociopaths are even worse. While a narcissist will hurt you to achieve their goal of getting attention or to punish you, a sociopath might just hurt you because they enjoy hurting people and you happened to be there. They don't really care if people like them or not, unless that's aligned with their plans. If everyone hates a sociopath it doesn't really damage them beyond making their machinations harder to achieve. High functioning sociopaths wear a "mask of sanity". They're not necessarily nascent Ted Bundys but they're evil and soulless. There's at least one investment bank in the UK used to use a psychopath screening test to deliberately hire psychopaths because they were the highest performers in corporate finance roles.

Ollie completely failing to understand social situations and being cringe/awkward is a big clue. The fact he constantly espouses how he's the most famous trans person in the UK or the smartest person in the room is another. His continued harassment of Contra through veiled references in a further one. Then there's also the flat affect - narcissists don't tend to emote all that much. Ollie does, but he takes a moment to think about how a normal person would respond to something and then acts out that emotion - but just for a moment, there's a blankness there. It's also like how he talks about this presenter persona - narcs create personas in their pursuit of being adored.

When you meet a narc they might be superficially charming, but oftentimes you'll feel a bit confused after interacting with them, or like something's a bit off with them - you won't necessarily be able to put your finger on it, but you'll feel a vague sense of wrongness. Never ignore that feeling.
 
I'd rather bet on narcissism. many narcissists also don't understand social situations since it's all about them and they don't really care about how other people feel or think. they do care about how they're perceived, but sometimes they're so blinded by their self delight that they can't see how annoying they are.
Me too. IME it's rare for autistic people to be so desperate for external validation - even the ones who end up with a following still tend to be sort of in their own world doing their own weird things cos they enjoy them, with the audience being incidental. It's actually quite hard to imagine Olly having a genuine interest in anything, except to the extent that he thinks it'll make him look good to other people.
 
I keep saying I'm done ranting about this and then both Contra and Olly say within a few days of each other that they don't care about TERFs. I'll keep it brief but to slightly PL as a person from a non-white non-western background you just have to get exposed to disparaging and even outright genocidal comments on the internet, including here on KF. I can stand it just fine as some random who wastes time online, but not only is it too much for these people to listen to things they might not want to hear from women but they go out of their way to be extra condescending towards them without even bothering to hear what they have to say.

I'm glad that these people are so bad at managing themselves in front of people they can't help but be offputting even when they're pretending to be innocent victims of genocide or whatever.
Fr.
It’s a fucking bore that there’s racists and idiots on here soemtimes, thankfully they always out themselves with their absolute obsession with not talking about anything else or seeing things through a very fixed prism.

Even as a bog-standard white woman, there’s fucking terrabytes of hate written about you every day- you just don’t interact, don’t pay attention, and hope that the very worst of it is put forth by people so twisted as to not have any real control of your life; though by sheer volume and longevity of the archetypes, there is a drip-drip effect;
terf rhetoric on the other hand, is not only much smaller and more measured but it has no hope of erasing the privilege they already have.

Is it any real surprise they can cope tho?
These are the guys who freaked out so much they got in line to cut their dicks Of, ten minutes into people starting to take the piss out of them a bit- rich white men.

@AssignedEva
' It only stopped when by a wonderful miracle they got hit by a lorry and died. Occasionally I go to their grave and smoke a cigarette while staring at it. '
My Queen.

The one Sure-to God narc i ever really had a strong relationship with, I once pulled out of the way of a bus about a split second before it ploughed into him.
I genuinely regret noticing quickly enough to do that, one other, much nicer person would still be alive.
He's currently in Iraq, Larping as an assassin lmao- though by now he's surely in Ukraine.

VERY similar to Olly btw, posh bpy went to posh school but larped as revolutionary to the tune of completely reframing everything in his life- and no one wanted him to, he was just obsessed to do it. in fact, his little private school were rivals with Ollies (there's like two here)


the biggest test for 'is this person a narc?' is wether or not you feel EXHAUSTED after any time spent with them- even if you were technically having a nice time/ not doing much- you will still feel utterly drained for days.

you will need to take big gaps from them, much to thier displeasure, they will be harrassing you to come round again instantly.
God help you if you get into a relationship with one.
the one i mentioned above- i am friends with all of his ex Gf's. They described fights that went on for DAYS like 72 hour, no sleep, locked in a room fights.
he cut me off entirely when it became clear i knew way to much about his machinations and wasnt about to cut people off as per his instructions.
hopefully he'll be killed in a warzone fairly soon- this isnt just for everyone elses sake, but his own.
it must be exhausting being him, and he wends a trail of absolute destruction.

I've a feeling Olly's 'abusive' ex was simply his only long term relationship, and someone who managed to get away from him.
So, the stories begin, and they are happy to call you anything up to and including a murderer to anyone who listens.
Meanwhile, clap back is not only a risk but utterly irrelevant, as anyone you actually care about or respect knows fine well exactly who is likely to be lying.
 
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I'm at a loss for words here. There's something seriously wrong with these men.
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Is it at all surprising that someone who has hair as disgusting as his doesn't know what normal hair looks like?
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So this is the guy who's LARPing as a muslim as well as a woman then? Because I think there's definitely a link to be made here between the two. On the one hand, they both move him a few rungs up the social ladder of identity politics; on the other, the power of being able to ignore and dismiss feminist critiques of both transgenderism and Islam is clearly attractive.

I'm guessing his problem with the girls' hair in the photo is that they don't leave it to grow into an untamed scraggly mess, and he thinks this is 'unnatural' somehow?
 
Just watched this- i put it on speed 1.25, sounded perfect-
very interesting, and true.


It makes me reflect on what more we'll see from Ol Lies public personas behaviour, as he has indeed started to notice impressions of him, and that certain tricks aren't working any more- we've already had some of the escalation- his bullshit " i am biologically female" gaslighting attention grabs.

Wonder how much more we'll see, or if he's already on the 'deflation' pathway..? I sot of doubt it though, he's come this far and wont let it slip through his fingers just yet.
It seems very out of character that he would present as a reformed character, for anything more than those two or so days where he was nice to his Q&A'ers on Tumblr.

@narcissistic injury your wish is my command, bezzy.
he's in 2 out of 3 pictures(before he put on the chonk) and mentioned in the article.
 
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