Double sigh. Dear Foxy, it was FCP who, as a mod, stepped in and implemented a sanction and not even the one suggested by Mona (though possibly one suggested by Yours Truly...). And no matter
how often you keep repeating it Ryulong
hasn't been shut down, merely received a whopping 3.6 day ban and a trip to the vandal bin and most emphatically
not because of disagreements over trans-identity or criticism of same, but based on 10 months of systematically bad behaviour towards an extremely wide selection of other contributors. The allegation that the sanctions were due to Mona being
"unable to discuss it in a civil manner" is a clear case of the pot calling the kettle black when referring to Ryulong (you have generally been civil, though, as I've explained elsewhere, I find your willingness to defend Ryulong and whataboutery when faced with clear evidence of his bad behaviour quickly turning from the merely persistent to the outright obnoxious).
ScepticWombat (
talk) 06:01, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
The reason I subscribe to "whataboutism" is that the only root cause for Ryulong's behavior I've found is other members of this site's attitude towards him. And the ban that I'd personally saw was indefinite (LNACB), though that has since been rescinded. The sanctions being Mona's fault (Which I did, correctly, emphasize was only
in part) are something that I am bringing up to call her out on her own hypocrisy in this matter. Thank you for noting that I have generally been civil, though. As it's something that I have been preaching, it is something that I am trying to practice, though I must admit it is hard to hide my frustration towards the whole situation. -
Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 06:04, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Nobody but yourself believes you. --
"Paravant" Talk &
Contribs 06:07, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
If you are unwilling to contribute to the discussion, please leave. -
Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 06:08, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
I am contributing to the discussion. You have made various statements to the effect of "I'm not here because of Ryulong, and it's coincidence we ally with oneanother1" but I don't think anybody here who has not just arrived (FTS) believes you. Stop trying to lie, it's transparent. --
"Paravant" Talk &
Contribs 06:11, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Your conspiracy theory is wrong. -
Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 06:13, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
Conspiracy theory, huh? funny, but I independently concocted the same conspiracy theory a few weeks ago. You denied it then, too. As Paravant says, no one believes you.--
-Mona- (
talk) 06:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
"I am friends with Ryulong but I am here of my own accord" is a statement I have made many times, both to you and Paravant. Nothing in there is a lie. This site has disappointed me greatly. -
Kitsunelaine 「Beware. The foxgirls are coming.」 06:24, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
I have a bit of a hard time taking your allegations of Paravant being a conspiracy theorists seriously when you dismiss out of hand the lengthy record of systematic bad behaviour of Ryulong as being mainly due to him being misunderstood and/or rubbed the wrong way and that criticism of his behaviour, which has come from quite a wide selection of editors is simply due to a cabal of uncivil editors with a grudge against Ryulong. This is a bit too much of the pot calling the kettle black.
I and others have already explained why you tend to be called a Ryulong supporter and I've highlighted several times that the fact that you think other editors behave badly is immaterial to the question of whether Ryulong's behaviour is acceptable. If you think other editors should be cooped, coop them, make your case and document their bad behaviour so we can have a discussion and vote on
them, but quit using the allegations as mere whataboutery, because it sure comes off as if you're trying to deflect blame from Ryulong by deflecting attention, not by actually grappling with his documented problematic behaviour.
ScepticWombat (
talk) 06:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)