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President Joe Biden on Tuesday said that the United States will impose sanctions “far beyond” the ones that the United States imposed in 2014 following the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

“This is the beginning of a Russian invasion of Ukraine,” Biden said in a White House speech, signaling a shift in his administration’s position. “We will continue to escalate sanctions if Russia escalates,” he added.

Russian elites and their family members will also soon face sanctions, Biden said, adding that “Russia will pay an even steeper price” if Moscow decides to push forward into Ukraine. Two Russian banks and Russian sovereign debt will also be sanctioned, he said.

Also in his speech, Biden said he would send more U.S. troops to the Baltic states as a defensive measure to strengthen NATO’s position in the area.

Russia shares a border with Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania.

A day earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered troops to go into the separatist Donetsk and Lugansk regions in eastern Ukraine after a lengthy speech in which he recognized the two regions’ independence.

Western powers decried the move and began to slap sanctions on certain Russian individuals, while Germany announced it would halt plans to go ahead with the Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

At home, Biden is facing bipartisan pressure to take more extensive actions against Russia following Putin’s decision. However, a recent poll showed that a majority of Americans believe that sending troops to Ukraine is a “bad idea,” and a slim minority believes it’s a good one.

All 27 European Union countries unanimously agreed on an initial list of sanctions targeting Russian authorities, said French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian, and EU foreign affairs head Josep Borell claimed the package “will hurt Russia … a lot.”

Earlier Tuesday, Borell asserted that Russian troops have already entered the Donbas region, which comprises Donetsk and Lugansk, which are under the control of pro-Russia groups since 2014.

And on Tuesday, the Russian Parliament approved a Putin-back plan to use military force outside of Russia’s borders as Putin further said that Russia confirmed it would recognize the expanded borders of Lugansk and Donetsk.

“We recognized the states,” the Russian president said. “That means we recognized all of their fundamental documents, including the constitution, where it is written that their [borders] are the territories at the time the two regions were part of Ukraine.”

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Putin said that Ukraine is “not interested in peaceful solutions” and that “every day, they are amassing troops in the Donbas.”

Meanwhile, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky on Tuesday morning again downplayed the prospect of a Russian invasion and proclaimed: “There will be no war.”

“There will not be an all-out war against Ukraine, and there will not be a broad escalation from Russia. If there is, then we will put Ukraine on a war footing,” he said in a televised address.

The White House began to signal that they would shift their own position on whether it’s the start of an invasion.

“We think this is, yes, the beginning of an invasion, Russia’s latest invasion into Ukraine,” said Jon Finer, the White House deputy national security adviser in public remarks. “An invasion is an invasion and that is what is underway.”

For weeks, Western governments have been claiming Moscow would invade its neighbor after Russia gathered some 150,000 troops along the countries’ borders. They alleged that the Kremlin would attempt to come up with a pretext to attack, while some officials on Monday said Putin’s speech recognizing the two regions was just that.

But Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters Tuesday that Russia’s “latest invasion” of Ukraine is threatening stability in the region, but he asserted that Putin can “still avoid a full blown, tragic war of choice.”

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Heroic soldiers of the Azov battalion have allegedly received some nice NLAW grenade launchers and are getting taught how to use them by a NATO instructor.

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Ruble Will Trade But Russia’s Stock Market to Remain Closed Wednesday
Russia’s stock market will remain closed Wednesday while trading on its currency market will open, the country’s central bank said in a statement.

The Moscow Exchange’s stock trading has been shut since Feb 25. When markets do reopen, investors expect a strong selloff because of the war with Ukraine and punishing Western sanctions. Stocks of many Russian companies traded in London and New York fell to pennies a share before trading was suspended on those venues.

Governments often close stock markets in times of crisis and war as a way to stem panic. It gives officials time to shore up other parts of the financial system. The New York Stock Exchange closed for four days after the Sept 11, 2001, attacks.

Russia’s currency market will open at 10 a.m. Moscow time, the central bank said. Money markets, which trade in short-term loans between banks and other financial institutions, and the repo market, will also be open.

The Russian ruble has lost 40% of its value against the dollar this year and slid more this week in trading outside Russia. Transacting in the ruble has gotten difficult though, traders say, as Russia has imposed capital controls designed to make it harder to sell and Western banks, grappling with sanctions, no longer want to settle trades in the Russian currency.
I wonder how many suicides will occur once the Russian stock market opens up.
 
Your jumping over the part where the Russian Far East Fleet is first either sunken, captured or bottled up in port. If we're repeating history and all that jazz.
Does Russia even have a Far East Fleet? I mean, whatever they've got is almost certainly in even worse state than whatever the Russian Empire had at the time. I mean, if they can't even keep the Baltic Fleet from being a floating disaster, what hope for the Far East?
 
Due to the possibility of a cyber attack against the US oil industry I highly suggest storing 5 to 10 gallons of gas in the event something happens and we need a week to get everything back on track.
 
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Does Russia even have a Far East Fleet? I mean, whatever they've got is almost certainly in even worse state than whatever the Russian Empire had at the time. I mean, if they can't even keep the Baltic Fleet from being a floating disaster, what hope for the Far East?
Pre Russo-Japanese War they did have one and sizable surviving portion of it did holed up in Port Arthur. Where between it and the port's coastal defenses kept the Japanese out leading to a stalemate. Baltic fleet from the start got fucked with by England who closed the Mediterranean via Suez Canal and Gibraltar. Hence the long way around Africa and through the Indian Ocean. Which added heavily to the wear and tear and the ships and crew.
 
Pre Russo-Japanese War they did have one and sizable surviving portion of it did holed up in Port Arthur. Where between it and the port's coastal defenses kept the Japanese out leading to a stalemate. Baltic fleet from the start got fucked with by England who closed the Mediterranean via Suez Canal and Gibraltar. Hence the long way around Africa and through the Indian Ocean. Which added heavily to the wear and tear and the ships and crew.

Maybe they shouldn't have started flinging shells at a bunch of fishermen, but they were a bunch of drunk gopniks with too much ammunition, so they fucked around and found out.
 
Pre Russo-Japanese War they did have one and sizable surviving portion of it did holed up in Port Arthur. Where between it and the port's coastal defenses kept the Japanese out leading to a stalemate. Baltic fleet from the start got fucked with by England who closed the Mediterranean via Suez Canal and Gibraltar. Hence the long way around Africa and through the Indian Ocean. Which added heavily to the wear and tear and the ships and crew.
My point is that even then the Baltic Fleet was a catastrophic fuck-up that very nearly triggered a war with the UK after firing on a bunch of fishing boats out of paranoia that Japanese torpedo boats were operating in the North Sea, and somehow, I don't think things have improved all that much a hundred years and counting onwards following the fall of the USSR.
 
My point is that even then the Baltic Fleet was a catastrophic fuck-up that very nearly triggered a war with the UK after firing on a bunch of fishing boats out of paranoia that Japanese torpedo boats were operating in the North Sea, and somehow, I don't think things have improved all that much a hundred years and counting onwards following the fall of the USSR.
UK being a long time ally of Japan was already involved in the war. Hence closing of Suez Canal, denying the Baltic Sea use of their coaling stations, and buying up all of the available coal at neutral ports. Before the Baltic Sea's support ship Kamchatka started creating international incidents left and right.
 
UK being a long time ally of Japan was already involved in the war. Hence closing of Suez Canal, denying the Baltic Sea use of their coaling stations, and buying up all of the available coal at neutral ports. Before the Baltic Sea's support ship Kamchatka started creating international incidents left and right.
Yes, and access to coal and the Suez would have done very little to mitigate the absolute clusterfuck of poor training and maintenance that was the 2nd Pacific Squadron, resulting in the flagship running aground, a cruiser losing an anchor, and in the confusion a destroyer ramming a battleship before they've even passed the Danish Belts. Perhaps they might have managed to sink a couple cruisers at Tsushima from sheer luck given their abominable gunnery that missed everything except the poor cruiser Aurora.
 

Russia suspends foreign currency sales as ruble crashes amid economic fallout over Ukraine invasion

Russia’s central bank, faced with unprecedented sanctions and a plummeting ruble, said Wednesday it was suspending the sale of foreign currencies through September.

Between March 9 and September 9, Russian banks "will not be able to sell foreign currencies to citizens," the central bank said in a statement, adding that it will be possible to exchange cash currency for rubles at any time and any amount.
During that window, cash withdrawals from foreign currency accounts at Russian banks will be limited to $10,000. Any withdrawals above that amount would be converted to rubles at the current exchange rates.

The bank said clients of all banks can still receive funds from their foreign currency deposits or accounts, but noted that it may take "several days" to bring the required amount of cash to a particular branch.

These new measures, some of the strictest financial controls enacted in Russia since the Soviet era, come amid economic fallout over Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

The United States and its allies have imposed crippling sanctions on Russia’s economy while many businesses, ranging from tech, to finance, to oil, have ceased operations in the country.

Russia's central bank noted that the currency controls were tightened because of the Western sanctions that froze a large share of its hard currency reserves. The crippling blow to the country's financial system prevented Russia from getting foreign cash.

Gideon Rose, a distinguished fellow in U.S. foreign policy at the Council of Foreign Relations and a sanctions expert, said the decline of the ruble was "one of the few things" Putin can do something about.

"This move is not designed to hit back but rather to try to preserve the strength of the currency," Rose said. "Still, it's too little too late – the measure may temporarily dampen the fall and perhaps stave off a next wave of defaults, but the diminished purchasing power of the ruble is here to say."

President Biden took matters a step further on Tuesday by ordering a ban on Russian oil imports, saying the U.S. "will not be part of subsidizing Putin’s war."

Also on Tuesday, American credit rating agency Fitch Ratings downgraded Russia’s credit rating from a "B" to a "C" and suggested that sovereign default is imminent. The ruble has crashed to just 0.0077 against the US dollar on Tuesday.

This is a bit off topic, but I've been thinking the comments from Clint Ehrlich that have been popping up on the Post Millennial and Tucker Carlson's show to be odd. So I did a little googling and apparently he was invited to Moscow in the past to be a "Visiting Researcher" and currently is doing what seems like an incredibly obvious crypto scam. Also had previously done a right wing version of FactCheck.org called FactCheck.net which is now gone. Nonetheless he seems to keep showing up in different places purporting to be an expert on Russia.

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Does Russia even have a Far East Fleet? I mean, whatever they've got is almost certainly in even worse state than whatever the Russian Empire had at the time. I mean, if they can't even keep the Baltic Fleet from being a floating disaster, what hope for the Far East?

Russia has nothing blue-water that isn't a joke. Their boomers make so much noise we can hear them from the east or west coast when they leave port, via sonar. The problem is that they do have big missile subs that can still paste the US in 8 minutes. The pride of their navy, the Kuznetzov, is a floating wreck. We couldn't have done better with a sheaf of Harpoon missiles than their own potato-brained dockworkers have. All hail the mighty red fleet, eh?
 
Presumably referring to the scar given to Harry Potter by Voldemort but shaped like the Z the Russian military seem to be scattering left right and centre.
I remember Harry having the scar on his forehead that was caused by Voldemort, but can someone who hasn't lost their virginity yet explain if it has any particular shape and if it's important in the narrative? It's been a while and a half since I watched the movies.
 
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What did the artist mean by this? 😮
I remember Harry having the scar on his forehead that was caused by Voldemort, but can someone who hasn't lost their virginity yet explain if it has any particular shape and if it's important in the narrative? It's been a while and a half since I watched the movies.
There are Polish politicians and activists who claim the Z is the new swastika (Because Russians started using Z as a symbol of supporting the invasion, at least their propaganda did) so perhaps it's the only acceptable way the author could say "But Ukraine is nazi still".

Far more likely theory is as simple as "Voldemort gave harry the scar by casting spell on him (idk details, voldemort tried killing harry but his mom's love protected him so all he got was a scar)" Z is seen as a mark of Russian invasion, Zelensky is Ukraine, thus he get's marked by putin's Invasio Ukrainu spell. It's fucking retarded and can be interpreted both ways, it really depends on where on the spectrum the author is.

Edit: I read Harry Potter when I was around 8 and didn't watch half of the movies so my memory of it's lore is foggy.

Edit 2: Z by itself is a symbol painted with spraypaint on Russian tanks and vehicles, if intelligence reports are right it's supposed to mean little more to Russians "This is our guys, attacking from the east" to prevent friendly fire but since has become something of a symbol of the invasion due to social media posts about Z marked vehicles, far as I know my cyryllic, Z is not a letter in their alphabet so it would just be a symbol/mark for them.
 
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This is a bit off topic, but I've been thinking the comments from Clint Ehrlich that have been popping up on the Post Millennial and Tucker Carlson's show to be odd. So I did a little googling and apparently he was invited to Moscow in the past to be a "Visiting Researcher" and currently is doing what seems like an incredibly obvious crypto scam. Also had previously done a right wing version of FactCheck.org called FactCheck.net which is now gone. Nonetheless he seems to keep showing up in different places purporting to be an expert on Russia.

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Which analysis was this again, and why do you find it odd?

Also, British MoD Update, can't believe we're already in Week 2 of the war
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This isn't at all China trying to push blame for Covid on others. No sireee, not at all.


Doubtful. Those exiles would all be seen as Western puppets, and lets be honest, they actually would be, or close enough the difference doesn't matter.

To be honest, having a western puppet ruling Russia would be quite good.


Looks like somebody's afraid of a little polonium or novichok poisoning! Not so scared when it was Navalny or Litvinenko, were you?

This picture has been making rounds longer than the invasion of Ukraine, but it is actually real(or at least credible sources claim it to be). The reason for the long table is apparently that Putin is really hysterical about the possibility of getting Covid.

I remember Harry having the scar on his forehead that was caused by Voldemort, but can someone who hasn't lost their virginity yet explain if it has any particular shape and if it's important in the narrative? It's been a while and a half since I watched the movies.

IIRC, the scar on Harrys face is the same bu like N, and it came from Voldemort trying to kill him but failing. In this instance I think that what is implied here is the imminent Russian failure in this war.
 
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