Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Strix454]

There are a whole load of (retarded) British volunteers in the Ukraine right now and they can justifiably (and retardedly) point at Liz Truss' statements to say that they went under false (and retarded) pretences. They can say that they were at best misled about their government's opinion of them and their actions and at worst entrapped by a British cabinet member's comments. How many of them could legitimately say that they would never have gone if they had felt that the government didn't support their actions? I know they're retarded but that's hardly a crime. I'd have been threadbanned long ago if that was the case.

Its a complicated situation. They are having to do a 180 turn on a whole bunch of different legal matters mostly related to the British Government position on UK citizen ISIL foreign fighters in the middle east.

I guess they forgot that whole policy of revoking citizenship for foreign fighters and not allowing them to return to the UK. But a whole lot of ISIL fighters who want to come home are probably going to be reminding them in court shortly.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

This is what I'm thinking again. Nobody in Europe want another Chernobyl happened again. Something at this order of magnitude would forced the European to actually act, no matter what. That said, I wonder now if countries like China would still be willing to help Russia if nuclear is involved

Given it's location a Chernobyl dirty bomb would be just as dangerous to Russia and it's vassal state as to Ukraine. It would be more dangerous to Russia than to the rest of Europe.

Putin would have to be so fucking crazy to try that he'd make Kim Jong blush.

 

[Socrates]

It really is funny, here we have Joe Biden, our president who began his campaign by (falsley) accusing Donald Trump of refusing to denounce Nazis, now having to support actual honest to god "oops every other picture of them we post to twitter has a nazi symbol in it" Nazis in Ukraine. The tables truly have tabled.

 

[Meat Target]

More hemming and hawing about thinking about stopping the war.

 

[Happy Fish]

Ted Turner wasn't an SJW by any means. He has a long and very well documented history of saying whatever the fuck he feels like, including the time he made a pollack joke during a charity dinner speech.

Just listening to him a little bit I am inclined to agree. His philosophy behind CNN was more or less what the average person thinks news should be IE: keep opinions out of it. And he feels that selling his company to AOL Time Warner was a huge mistake. He doesn't come across as someone who is fond of what news has become at all. Even pulling up him talking about the creation of Captain Planet it has death by committee written all over it

Edit: Even looking up the Swat Kats thing apparently Ted Turner wanted them to tone down the violence which his underlings took to an extreme. He seems like an idealist who is surrounded by sychophants.

 

[Bixby Snyder]

I don't buy the ww3 hype. Western countries are too cucked to risk hundreds of deaths, nevermind tens of thousands that will occur from a huge scale military action.

Russia is already struggling against a small country, they wouldn't deplete everything else on fighting the entire world. Ditto China has only to lose from getting involved with any side.

Nukes are out of the question, the west has no reason to be as desperate and Russia will commit suicide doing it (when the entire point is conquering a small-ish area).

The most that will happen is the west sending tiny amount of troops to bumfuck nowhere and laud it as a "tactical victory".

Nuclear radiation starts leaking into Europe they won't have a choice.

Even if they argue that it's not an intentional act of aggression, they still need it to be fucking contained immediately, which means the war needs to pause till that shit is fixed. If they didn't stop, then they would have to act because literal thousands of lives would start being affected in NATO countries -- and not the sniffles like COVID but actual death and long-term effects.

 

[Stoneheart]

I don't know how many times everyone has to tell this guy no. I mean, I understand where he’s coming from. But it’s an illogical and dangerous situation. The risks outweigh the benefits. If you aren’t getting jets, you aren’t getting a NFZ. (unless they bend and fuck up everything)

He want NATO to go all in. there is no reason for a no fly zone, the russians are not bombing alot, they use other means of exploding people.

 

[Rezza]

More hemming and hawing about thinking about stopping the war.

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I'm sorry, but I can't take seriously an article written by someone who used the name "Tyler Durded", lol

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Even if they argue that it's not an intentional act of aggression, they still need it to be fucking contained immediately, which means the war needs to pause till that shit is fixed. If they didn't stop, then they would have to act because literal thousands of lives would start being affected in NATO countries -- and not the sniffles like COVID but actual death and long-term effects.

Maybe I'm too black pilled, but I get the feeling if just a little radiation got into some "unimportant" areas Europe wouldn't care. Who cares if some serfs get sick, so long as no rich people areas get affected right?

 

[Strix454]

He want NATO to go all in. there is no reason for a no fly zone, the russians are not bombing alot, they use other means of exploding people.

The last no-fly zone was in Libya. And that no-fly zone within days turned into an all-out air war on the Libyan army, a naval blockade of Libya and eventually the assassination of the Libyan President by drones.
The purpose of the no-fly zone calls is to escalate to a full military intervention through something that seems to the public like an ordinary step from past conflicts

 

[DumbDude42]

The question can Chernobyl currently be turned into such weapon ? Weapon of Ultimate Denial a Weapon to Surpass Nuke ?

It could lead to actual WW3. Not even exaggerating.

If it degraded into a dirty bomb Europe would have to act. They would have to demand it get fixed immediately, and if not, would have to come over and fix the shit themselves. That's why it is scary.

this is dumb
chernobyls meltdown was over 30 years ago, by now a big portion of the most active isotopes have decayed away, and the whole reactor has been buried under so much rubble, concrete, and neutralizing material that releasing more material from it is near impossible.

if you want to deliberately cause a radiation incident, you don't have to go digging up the leftovers of chernobyl, there's plenty of working nuclear plants around where you can get fresh material without subjecting yourself to a lethal dose of radiation in the process

 

[naffatune]

Wow this thread really degraded from the first one. Next to no war footage, and now conspiritard bait schitzo theories about bio-labs lol.

Very little interesting footage coming from the Rus telegrams and the Twitter accounts I browse as of now. Usually, what I find interesting are videos of large Russian movements (e.g. armies or convoys moving to a city), footage of civilian or military corpses (very concrete proof of casualties), or anything that looks like something out of a movie or vidya.

Seems like things are slowing down. Could be a sign that Russians have already taken lots of land or that Ukies pushed them back. Your choice.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

I don't buy the ww3 hype. Western countries are too cucked to risk hundreds of deaths, nevermind tens of thousands that will occur from a huge scale military action.

Russia is already struggling against a small country, they wouldn't deplete everything else on fighting the entire world. Ditto China has only to lose from getting involved with any side.

Nukes are out of the question, the west has no reason to be as desperate and Russia will commit suicide doing it (when the entire point is conquering a small-ish area).

The most that will happen is the west sending tiny amount of troops to bumfuck nowhere and laud it as a "tactical victory".

I'd say ww3 I'd probably unlikely, but never assume the west is too cucked for it. It's like saying the Germans didn't have the will for another war because we took care of them in 1918. Also just because it's not in a countries best interests (as we view it at least, they may view it differently), doesn't mean they won't do it.

 

[LUNEKO]

I think this is a negotiation tactic, keep asking for something high, and accept for something lower since the first one is going to be unacceptable for the other party

Haggling works well when you're trying to sell overpriced kebabs to tourist in the middle east, not so much when you're asking the strongest army in the world to start WW3 so you can keep your job

 

[Safir]

Traitor rag dispatch!

How many Russian conscripts are there in The Ukraine? Russians say "some" conscripts were "mistakenly" shipped to Ukraine but have been since located and returned home. Soldiers' Mothers, the anti-conscription org, tries to foment a popular uprising: it tells parents to storm draft commissions and demand the location of their children RIGHT THIS INSTANT unless they WANT THEM TO DIE111!1. The idea is that draft commissions will be unable to process the influx of calls (correct) and people will take to rioting. They also want a public list of the dead soldiers to harass relatives. Therefore there's no quality info how many conscripts take part in the operation and whether Putin planned for them to do so or their immediate superiors forcibly enlisted them to meet quotas.

A wokeshit "director and playwright" published an open letter to theaters gloating he'll donate his royalties to Ukraine. Like, "haha 40 state theaters, especially these three, pay me a shitton of royalties and aaaaalll of them are funded by taxpayer money, suck my dick, vatniks, look at me raping you right in the wallet" (not an exact quote but the sentiment is there). He's not even a Putin crony, he'd publicly told all libarts wokies to undermine Putin at every step even back in 2017. Why are we still doing this? There must be a reckoning. Fuck Putin.

According to a Kherson resident, most Kherson territorial defense (militia) members didn't have weapons. The Russians allegedly executed all of them the day they took Kherson. The stunning and brave Kherson residents held a massive anti-war rally in the occupied city. It is rumored that one protester got accidentally killed by either a rubber bullet or a noise grenade. [Again: the TRAITOR RAG's Ukrainian anti-Russian interviewee SAYS that there's a RUMOR that a SINGLE protester got ACCIDENTALLY killed.] At one of the protest rallies, the RosGuard started beating a protester and other protesters rushed them and beat the Guard, who then proceeded to shoot into the air to stop the fight. Outside of the city, two men tried to punk a Russian soldier [the interviewee says] and he shot them. It's peaceful now. Looters aren't a problem. Russian soldiers looted and wrecked shit but they left, and RosGuard has nothing to do. Local looters all got caught and ducktaped by the mayoral militia. The mayor still runs the city. Shelves are empty because people panic-bought; those too poor to have panic-bought are beginning to starve but are too proud to accept free food from the Russians.

An interview with the admin or a wannabe emigrant chat.
A shitton of theater workers, journos and copywriters want to leave Russia but can't because they can't do anything else.
Many ask for free healthcare because their costly healthcare is state-funded here and they can't afford to pay out of pocket.
Other pressing concerns:
- I don't want to be alone.
- What will I do once I'm there?
- I have no skills, how will I earn money?
- Will I be able to find love?
- I have unpaid child support, how do I flee the country? [Note: child support in Russia is minuscule.]
The three most popular destinations are Georgia, Armenia, and Turkey.
In 2016, 72% of Russians did not have a passport for international travel.

RosComFreedom published an open letter ("digital service providers are fucking retarded for building Putin's Great Firewall for him").

A proposed bill will allow takeovers of companies 25% or more of which are owned by unfriendly nationals which stopped or suspended operation. It and 8 more similar bills (exact content yet unknown) will be discussed in committees tomorrow, March 10. (Note: Piracy isn't legal yet.)

Globohomos in the government lost power and influence and cry about it.

The Most Affected (dated March 1): see for yourself.
The context is the traitor rag crowdsourced Most Affected stories and handpicked the mostest affectedest. Everyone of them deserves nothing but a kick in the nuts, except for the boy who has cancer and needs a prosthetic, and the vidya developer who can't get paid (but it's Gaben taking his lunch money - only seven banks are cut off from Swift so far). Note that this was published to invoke sympathy and anti-war special operation sentiment.

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Out in the open on Instagram, Russians celebrate Inditex (clothes) fucking off. "Your clothes are garbage anyway. Fuck off and take your lint with you." The sad part is it's not sour grapes, they couldn't have freed themselves from the consoomer duty of buying shitty clothes any other way.

Philip Morris (cancer sticks) is reducing production.

Burger King, the most disgusting in every sense of the word fast food franchise, will unfortunately stay open (for now).

McDonald's is open for now and they say the planned suspension will cost them $50M / month.

 

[JohnDoe]

Russia is already struggling against a small country, they wouldn't deplete everything else on fighting the entire world. Ditto China has only to lose from getting involved with any side

The only reason Russia is 'struggling' now is because they are trying to use a delicate touch. They want to keep as much infrastructure intact and kill as few civilians as possible, for a number of reasons. If they had carpet bombed the place into oblivion like the US in the Gulf it'd be a lot easier, but messy.

If Zelensky and the globohomo west keep trying to stalemate this the conclusion will still be a Russian victory, but with a shit ton more dead Ukraine citizens. Not that Zelensky or his puppet masters care, they're only White serfs.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Nuclear radiation starts leaking into Europe they won't have a choice.

Even if they argue that it's not an intentional act of aggression, they still need it to be fucking contained immediately, which means the war needs to pause till that shit is fixed. If they didn't stop, then they would have to act because literal thousands of lives would start being affected in NATO countries -- and not the sniffles like COVID but actual death and long-term effects.

Nuclear radiation will affect the russian troops far worse than the countries around and will halt the entire invasion immediately. The west will retaliate with worse sanctions and won't be dumb enough to escalate.
The idea that war between two nuclear nations is immediate ww3 is retarded. Nuclear is saved to cases where the very country itself is under threat, and no country will invade Russia after driving its soldiers out of Ukraine.

 

[Rezza]

Very little interesting footage coming from the Rus telegrams and the Twitter accounts I browse as of now. Usually, what I find interesting are videos of large Russian movements (e.g. armies or convoys moving to a city), footage of civilian or military corpses (very concrete proof of casualties), or anything that looks like something out of a movie or vidya.

Seems like things are slowing down. Could be a sign that Russians have already taken lots of land or that Ukies pushed them back. Your choice.

I think that's what's happening, the Russian is regrouping and waited for their supplies to catch up. They're probably going to prepare for an all-out assault on Kyiv in a few days

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

if just a little radiation got into some "unimportant" areas Europe wouldn't care. Who cares if some serfs get sick, so long as no rich people areas get affected right?

How very german of you.

 

[Strix454]

Could be a sign that Russians have already taken lots of land or that Ukies pushed them back. Your choice.

The Russians have recently taken alot of land in the North roughly between Kiev and Kharkov. Alot of Ukrainian units were bypassed and left sitting in towns. I counted about nine pockets of Ukrainian Army units in the area on maps I've seen. There is a similar situation with pocketed troops in the east (maybe). They did a big advance all the way down to the area east of Kiev and it would be reasonable to expect a slowdown after.

The sites I've been depending on for maps are not updating right now. Which means either the russians are not moving or that there is bad news that sites like the NYT don't want to highlight. It could well be either.

The site liveuamap.com is trying as hard as they can to put a positive spin on things by limiting Russian controlled areas on their maps to just the roads they are advancing along and sort of assuming that anything even a tiny bit off those roads is under the control of the Ukrainian army. They used to be really good for Syria war maps, but now they are garbage.

The Russian strategy is risky in that they have put large numbers of Ukrainian Army soldiers in their own rear areas often seemingly contained only by roadblock positions. Its also hard to tell if their strategy is to clear up the pockets or just let the Ukrainian Army forces sit trapped in them.