UN Orchestras Pull Tchaikovsky From Concerts Over Russia's War on Ukraine


Orchestras Pull Tchaikovsky From Concerts Over Russia's War on Ukraine​

By Emma Mayer On 3/9/22 at 5:33 PM EST

Several orchestras have recently announced changes to their concert programs, removing the legendary Romantic-era composer Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky from their lineups amid the Russian war on Ukraine.
Russia launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine at the end of February, and several large companies and corporations have since cut ties with Russia in response. Even more support for Ukraine has been shown as citizens across the world have personally boycotted Russian-based goods or services, but some internet users say that the banning of 19th-century classical music might be taking it a step too far.
On Wednesday, Wales' Cardiff Philharmonic Orchestra announced it would be removing Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" from a March 18 concert.
Tchaikovsky was a Russian composer of the Romantic Period, best known for his ballets, "The Nutcracker," "Swan Lake," and "Sleeping Beauty," as well as several more famous concertos and symphonies, including "1812 Overture." The composer died in 1893 in St. Petersburg, Russia.

A statement on the orchestra's official website said, "In light of the recent Russian invasion of Ukraine, Cardiff Philharmonic Orchestra, with the agreement of St. David's Hall, feel the previously advertised programme including the 1812 Overture to be inappropriate at this time."
The "1812 Overture" was written to celebrate Russia's defense against the invasion of Napoleon, and is notable for featuring a barrage of cannon fire in its composition.
The director for the orchestra, Martin May, told Newsweek, "The decision on this concert was very much based on here and now. A member of the orchestra has family directly involved in the Ukraine situation and we are trying to respect that situation during the immediate term. There were also two military themed pieces as part of the programme (Marche Slave and 1812) that we felt were particularly inappropriate at this time."
May added that another piece of Tchaikovsky's "Symphony No. 2," titled "Little Russian," was deemed offensive to Ukrainians. There are currently no plans to change any of the summer and autumn concerts featuring other Russian composers. "This is a one off decision made with the best of intentions," he said.

On Twitter, users have voiced their concerns about the move. YouTuber and podcaster Steven Crowder tweeted, "I get it. You don't like Putin. I don't, either. But why cancel Tchaikovsky? He's been dead for over 100 years. I guess even the dead aren't safe from being canceled."
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Another called out the cultural boycott, saying, "Tchaikovsky died 129 years before Putin decided to invade Ukraine. He was gay, liberal and ultimately rejected Russian nationalism. We must not allow our righteous hatred of the invasion turn into disgust at all things Russian or the Russian people."

In place of Tchaikovsky's work, the Cardiff Philharmonic will be playing John Williams' "The Cowboys Overture" and Czech composer Antonín Dvořák's "Symphony No. 8, Op. 88."
The Chubu Philharmonic Orchestra in Japan also announced that it will be replacing Tchaikovsky's "1812 Overture" in its concert in central Japan this month, according to the Japanese newspaper, The Mainichi.
The Chubu Philharmonic also cited the war as the reason for the change. The orchestra's office told The Mainichi, "We stand with Ukraine by following the example of this piece, which is a wish for the freedom and independence of Finland, then under Russian rule."
It is reported it will add a different piece by Tchaikovsky from "The Nutcracker" ballet.
Newsweek reached out to the Cardiff Philharmonic Orchestra for further comment, but did not hear back in time for publication.


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His music was very Western by Russian standards. I believe he was trained in Paris, so he was never considered a "Russian" composer per se.
Western-trained Russian composers are only not-Russian when it's convenient. Stravinsky got dad dicked by Western media in the aftermath of the 1917 revolution even though he'd been based in Paris for close to a decade by that point. There's a reason he left France for depression-era America in the 1930's.
 
Yikes, if even music is no longer safe from being cancelled, then how far will it go? Will we see Zarya removed from Overwatch, and Zangief removed from Street Fighter? Will Eli Ayase be retconned out of Love Live! ? And what antagonist country will appear in modern-time FPS games, now that Russia is no longer acceptable, and same with China?
Please stop giving them ideas.
 
Another called out the cultural boycott, saying, "Tchaikovsky died 129 years before Putin decided to invade Ukraine. He was gay, liberal and ultimately rejected Russian nationalism. We must not allow our righteous hatred of the invasion turn into disgust at all things Russian or the Russian people."
Tchaikovsky was engaged to a Belgian woman, but they broke up because she didn't want to quit her job and move to Russia. Nine years after breaking up with her, he married a different woman, but they divorced because, according to Tchaikovsky, she was a huge gossip who didn't know when to shut up. He then had a pen relationship with a rich woman (which started while he was married) for almost the entire remainder of his life. His patroness was his best friend by far and he shared his every thought with her. The only evidence that he was gay relies on a previously unseen letter first published in a book in 2018. One of his supposed gay lovers according to the letter, his servant Aleksey, was married multiple times and had kids. It's very curious that these "homosexual" men keep on entering relationships with women and having sex with them. I find it very odd that decades of relationships with women are thought to be faked, but one letter is definitive proof that he is gay.
 
>Russia invades another country
>Russia interferes in US elections
>Russia infiltrates US academia
>Russia threatens to nuke US
>Russia threatens NATO
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Oh, wait...

I meant "USSR"!

Holy shit, when they were actively playing chicken with carrier groups and boomer subs, testing our borders, invading other countries, we didn't do this shit.

Fucking 2022 is fucking retarded.
 
Tchaikovsky was engaged to a Belgian woman, but they broke up because she didn't want to quit her job and move to Russia. Nine years after breaking up with her, he married a different woman, but they divorced because, according to Tchaikovsky, she was a huge gossip who didn't know when to shut up. He then had a pen relationship with a rich woman (which started while he was married) for almost the entire remainder of his life. His patroness was his best friend by far and he shared his every thought with her. The only evidence that he was gay relies on a previously unseen letter first published in a book in 2018. One of his supposed gay lovers according to the letter, his servant Aleksey, was married multiple times and had kids. It's very curious that these "homosexual" men keep on entering relationships with women and having sex with them. I find it very odd that decades of relationships with women are thought to be faked, but one letter is definitive proof that he is gay.
He could of been just bisexual
 
"This doesnt help in the slightest"

The motto of nearly everything the western world did about this war in a nutshell
I really hope (optimism I know) that this whole Ukraine deal will finally teach those of us in the public who have yet to learn it: Cancel Culture doesn't WORK.

No matter HOW many Russian things you cancel, Putin is not going to suddenly reach his internal shame limit and withdraw........

You can't change the deeply-held beliefs of people by just threatening to not be their friend..... when you didn't even LIKE them to start with.

The cancel shit isnt even to stop Putin. At least most people deep down know it aint so. Its to stroke their own egos and make them feel like they have done something.

They cant or are unwilling to face the problem in more direct (tho more risky) ways, so doing this settles that guilt they have over everything AND feeds their egos.

So when they do this, its both to cope with the fact they cant (and wont) do shit about this but to also use it to show off their own morality because thats something you apparently gotta constantly prove to strangers online.
 
How does that help anyone?
It doesn't. Its just the elites gaining more power and testing the waters to see what they can get away with before joe public tells them to stop.

I really hope (optimism I know) that this whole Ukraine deal will finally teach those of us in the public who have yet to learn it: Cancel Culture doesn't WORK.

No matter HOW many Russian things you cancel, Putin is not going to suddenly reach his internal shame limit and withdraw........

You can't change the deeply-held beliefs of people by just threatening to not be their friend..... when you didn't even LIKE them to start with.
They don't care. As long as they look good online to complete strangers and group think. Cancel Culture is just troll shielding. Allows people who are doing the canceling to make themselves feel good and feel like they're acomplishing something.
 
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Will you cancel Mussorgsky too?

His music was very Western by Russian standards. I believe he was trained in Paris, so he was never considered a "Russian" composer per se.
Tchaikovsky was not trained in France (His teacher Anton Rubinstein, however, studied in Vienna and had quite strong French connections), although back then the Russian upper-class were all Frenchaboos.

Western-trained Russian composers are only not-Russian when it's convenient. Stravinsky got dad dicked by Western media in the aftermath of the 1917 revolution even though he'd been based in Paris for close to a decade by that point. There's a reason he left France for depression-era America in the 1930's.
Stravinsky wasn't Western-trained either. He emphasized throughout his life that his teacher was Rimsky-Korsakov. As for the reason he left France, there are lots of stories. Perhaps the biggest reason was his increasingly sour relationship with Diaghilev and his Ballet Russe, while Balanchine on the other side of the pond offered a less toxic work environment.
 
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