Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Happy Fish]

De-banking is the most idiotic decision the collective West has made. As a Russian, now I can only pay for my VPN/VPS with crypto (and not all of them even accept crypto), stolen credit card that I bought on darknet with crypto, or a middleman who i must entrust with my credentials and crypto. And if I don't have VPN/VPS, I can't access most of globohomo (or even neutral) news outlets, so I'll only feed on information propaganda that my government provides. Not the best way to rile the population up against Putin, if you ask me.
I see a lot of NPCs on Twitter who think that private companies leaving will somehow lead people to overthrow the government. I've extensively studied history of revolutions and uprisings, successful and not, I've read works by Lenin, Trotsky, various guerrilleros, even fucking SIEGE.
Revolt starts with the Organization.

• The Organization provides support structure for revolutionaries, both material and informational. Let's say we're at peaceful stage and are organizing a protest. In modern Russia this can easily get you arrested, your electronics confiscated, your house searched. If you're a known shit stirrer, pigs will try to arrest you preemptively so you're gonna need safehouse. If you're under arrest, you cant work and earn money. If your electronics are confiscated, you're gonna need the replacement. If there's no Organization, it's all risk and no reward, therefore no protests.
• The people who will be ready to kill and die for the cause tend not to have "good optics". Literally every revolution was fought by "fools, frauds and firebrands" and led by hideous people like Trotsky. Bleeding heart liberals that you're seeing on streets of Russian cities won't cut it. At best, they'll comprise "legal" parts of the Organization (various NCOs and support groups) or radicalize further. Legals are important for buliding the support structure, but without the Minecraft crew they're fucking toothless. Vice versa, Minecrafters alone would be ineffective without their legal counterparts.
  So, what does it mean for the West? If you want regime change, be ready to get your hands dirty by supporting literal psychopaths as well, not just dangerhair zoomer sheep.
• It takes a lot of time and effort to build the Organization. You need to recruit a lot of brilliant minds to be ideologues, leaders and officers. Western fuckers have been ignoring thousands of radicals (skinheads, antifa, commies, various separatists, even lolberts) fleeing from Russia over last two decades. No protection, no resources, no media support. No retaliation for political prosecutions in Russia. These people were left alone, slowly assimilating and losing the flame that burned inside them. And now, when "the street" is sterilized, you expect someone to "rise up"? The only group that got some attention from the West was liberal democrats. And as the name suggests, these guys aren't good at revolting.
• And now, to the best part. Let's assume the Organization(s) are formed organically. What makes you think they'll be aligned with the West? Last time when Russian Revolution was left to it's own devices, fucking Bolsheviks have won. During late 90s, Western countries were helping Russia precisely to prevent communist or "red fascist" takeover. Same goes for coup' d'etat by Russian elites. Yes, there's a chance that oligarchs would succeed, but what if the power falls into hands of military, secret police or regional elites?
  The general population is rapidly turning against the West. Of course, it's fueled by state propaganda, but also by West's behavior. Cutting the technological and cultural ties with Russian population won't make them turn on Putin, people will see the West have abandoned them and either fall into Putin's hands ("after all, all his talk about Russophobic West was true!") or will grow strong sense of resentment towards West and eventually install revanchist regime.

TL;DR It's delusional to think that people are going to rise up against Putin because of sanctions. And even if they do, the West is not gonna like the result.

Its entirely possible they actually want this so they can dehumanize opposition. That would be completely insane, but not outside the realm of possibility.

 

[Strix454]

You got a link to that, it sounds interesting

The question is on the proposed American mandate/colony in Armenia after World War I.

Its wikipedia with all its usual faults. But its a good starting point anyway;

Its here

 

[JambledUpWords]

Sanctioning your country was a stupid decision at every level, kicking you off SWIFT was retarded & it accomplishes nothing of substance. I wish this wasn't happening to you but it is, you're being forced into a North Korean style hermit state by idiot Western governments that don't care about making a distinction between the people & the government. Everyone is being punished for something a minority of people did.

The average Russian is hurt by these sanctions far more than Putin himself probably is. Economic warfare can be just as deadly as bombings because poverty lowers your life expectancy a lot.

 

[Hell on Earth]

Sanctioning your country was a stupid decision at every level, kicking you off SWIFT was retarded & it accomplishes nothing of substance. I wish this wasn't happening to you but it is, you're being forced into a North Korean style hermit state by idiot Western governments that don't care about making a distinction between the people & the government. Everyone is being punished for something a minority of people did.

Making SWIFT a political weapon will most likely backfire spectacularly and the western goverments have made Russia fall into China's hands.

The stage is set for a multipolar world and pure globalization is dead.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

All in all I can say that if the Russians were sharing these pics we'd all be talking about how awful and callous they are.

No, I shittalked the Ukrainians for being callous to dead bodies before.

Making SWIFT a political weapon will most likely backfire spectacularly and the western goverments have made Russia fall into China's hands.

The stage is set for a multipolar world and pure globalization is dead.

Bright side, at least my worst nightmare about total globohomo has been postponed.

 

[What the shit]

The average Russian is hurt by these sanctions far more than Putin himself probably is. Economic warfare can be just as deadly as bombings because poverty lowers your life expectancy a lot.

I'm sort of split on this, because of course there are Russians that truly don't want a war but are getting fucked in the asshole for this. It's upsetting, but I mean what else could we do? Both sides are struggling and there's really not much the West wants to do unless of course they finally go through the route of warfare, which only benefits government officials and the people making the weapons.

 

[Strix454]

I'm sort of split on this, because of course there are Russians that truly don't want a war but are getting fucked in the asshole for this. It's upsetting, but I mean what else could we do? Both sides are struggling and there's really not much the West wants to do unless of course they finally go through the route of warfare, which only benefits government officials and the people making the weapons.

The choices we had were 10, 15 or 20 years ago. We got here because of two generations of stupid policy. The whole long US obsession with Ukraine as a vital interest has been insane from the start. Thank Dick Cheney for it.

 

[What the shit]

The choices we had were 10, 15 or 20 years ago. We got here because of two generations of stupid policy. The whole long US obsession with Ukraine as a vital interest has been insane from the start. Thank Dick Cheney for it.

This Dick Cheney guy sounds like a real jerk!

 

[Cland]

I've got a theory that hasn't been put forward yet. Have we considered if it was the Jews? God damn it why did Zelenskyy have to be a Jew, can't go 5 feet in this thread and the previous without tripping over a Star of David. I want to say cool it with the conspiritarding about the jooz, but well...

Signs pointing to a larger scale biolab. My brain's broken. I want to say oh maybe it's virology research or something more tame. Except like fuck I'm assuming competency from the seemingly complacent.

>Biological material lab in Ukraine
>"There's no way that's a bio weapon lab you fucking idiot, Ukraine is contested territory right next the USA's rival"
>Bio lab existence confirmed
>Immediately tarred and feathered as a conspiracy theory
>Narrative of the Russian's are trying to distract you with the bio lab
>No you far right Nazi, the war is what you need to focus on
>Don't ask about the bio lab
>There are no tanks labs in Baghdad Ukraine
>...We know there's a lab now what the fuck where did this come from
>NO LAB RUSSIAN PUPPET



I always thought the biggest argument against the existence of the NWO was our elite are far too fucking stupid to run that large of a conspiracy. Bioweapon lab on the fucking border of your rival what the fuck. Shills and puppets popping out to try some see no evil garbage. I want to survive the nuclear exchange only to exult in the sheer magnitude of realization that occurs in the minds of these subhuman pests the media insists are my fellow humans.

 

[JosephStalin]

He has to get to Lviv first, which may or may not happen.

In hindsight I think not getting the government out of Kyiv is going to turn out to be the decision that bites them in the ass. AFAIK the entire executive branch is just chilling there. So who knows what happens if Russia just kills them all.

Would think the "second team" is in Lviv. When you look at Kyiv's location, it's like having your heart at the end of your finger. You'd build facilities and have copies of important records, etc., plus communications systems in Lviv ready in case Kyiv was taken. Same thing in Korea. Seoul isn't far from the DMZ, and also astride a previously-used invasion route. However, there are a great many troops and fortifications protecting Seoul. South Korea has also moved certain parts of the government further south, to the Taejon area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daejeon

https://archive.ph/TeaEw

Since Ukraine has no vice-president, would think prime minister is in Lviv. If Kyiv falls the President could resign in favor of the prime minister, who could then go on with the war.

 

[Dave_Ph]

So now were gonna start an economic war with Chyna.
That could solve the problem of illegal immigrants. We're adressing the root causes now.
Thanks Brandon

 

[The Foldless Brain]

ASB Military, one of the few Russian shill OSINT accounts and who brought big attention to how fake and gay the ghost of Sheev and the Snake Island story were has been banned. Expecting RWA and even guys like Clint Ehrlich to follow:

 

[Dave_Ph]

Bright side, at least my worst nightmare about total globohomo has been postponed.

Wohoo.
It'll onby be Westhomo now.

 

[Hell on Earth]

The choices we had were 10, 15 or 20 years ago. We got here because of two generations of stupid policy. The whole long US obsession with Ukraine as a vital interest has been insane from the start. Thank Dick Cheney for it.

People in the Pentagon and Neo-cons for a long time have had an insane vision based on a liberal version of manifest destiny no doubt.

Ironically, these insane ideas have killed globalism and have permanently damaged American supremacy for the future.

 

[The Foldless Brain]

In other news, Facebook officially allows calling for the death of Russians:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-facebook-instagram-temporarily-allow-calls-violence-against-russians-2022-03-10/

I give it latest until the attack on Kyyyv for someone to republish Generalplan Ost in English on a mainstream source.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

I'm sort of split on this, because of course there are Russians that truly don't want a war but are getting fucked in the asshole for this. It's upsetting, but I mean what else could we do? Both sides are struggling and there's really not much the West wants to do unless of course they finally go through the route of warfare, which only benefits government officials and the people making the weapons.

Nothing. We really don't need to do anything. It isn't our obligation to act, especially when all we're doing is causing more innocent suffering both in our citizens and innocent Russian civilians.

 

[JambledUpWords]

So for those interested in the updates, the person I feature lives in Texas with her military husband. Lived in places like Japan and Italy for military purposes.

Spoiler

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

tulskij_tochnyj said:
Revolt starts with the Organization.

• The Organization provides support structure for revolutionaries, both material and informational. Let's say we're at peaceful stage and are organizing a protest. In modern Russia this can easily get you arrested, your electronics confiscated, your house searched. If you're a known shit stirrer, pigs will try to arrest you preemptively so you're gonna need safehouse. f there's no Organization, it's all risk and no reward, therefore no protests.
• It takes a lot of time and effort to build the Organization. You need to recruit a lot of brilliant minds to be ideologues, leaders and officers.
• Let's assume the Organization(s) are formed organically.

Which is why it's usually wealthy people who fund and organize the revolution. The terrorism in the US in the 1970's was funded by wealthy individuals with one supplying a safehouse in a nice neighborhood(which subsequently blew up while one of them was making a bomb). People don't want to think their "organic" movement "by the people" is funded and protected by certain rich individuals and powerful ideologues.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

Ukies have been posing with dead bodies, which according to some (but not all) countries is a war crime. I'd probably do the same though. There is something incredibly dank about using emojis and filters on a dead combatant and you can quote me on that.

All images are thumbnails so please don't lose your shit, jannies.

Spoiler: NSFW dead lads

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Sorry for the censored one. Can't find uncensored.

Less dank is this very obvious execution of a Russian soldier. They clearly armed his body again after he was dead but forgot to unchain his leg from the lamp post... smh. Schoolboy error. They're lucky they have the full weight of the lugenpress behind them.

Spoiler: NSFW executed lad

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Last but not least some NSFW pics from the massacre of the VDV at Hostomel. Bless those boys but they're not having a good war.

Spoiler: NSFW Hostomel stuff

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All in all I can say that if the Russians were sharing these pics we'd all be talking about how awful and callous they are. I can also say that the VDV are having an absolutely shit time, to the extent that this whole escapade will have really damaged their reputation.

Sorry if any of those were posted before, whenever I get behind I just go through the highlights.

War crimes against the dead are probably the least severe kind of war crime. Soldiers have been posing with dead enemies for as long as they've had cameras small enough to carry in combat. Especially after digital cameras came out, because you don't need to find someone who knows how to develop film. Probably a lot of Vietnam vets with polaroids of them and their friends making fun of dead gooks before that.

 

[JosephStalin]

One thing to consider about it. The US is re-making the Marine Corps because of an internal military conclusion that traditional amphibious warfare and landings are obsolete. That anyone attempting them, in particular against Today's China, would see their forces utterly destroyed.
The Chinese themselves know about that analysis and those conclusions. The Chinese don't have to go the traditional route in terms a large combined arms landing on Taiwan. What if, for example, they simply embark on a campaign of reducing the place to rubble for as long as it takes until the government in Taiwan gives up? Is destroying the air defense system and the Taiwanese air force within the capabilities of China?

Possible, if China wants to pay the price. You can do anything you have the capability to do if you can pay the price. But it still takes boots on the ground to take and hold ground. Taiwan isn't a Pantelleria.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Corkscrew

https://archive.ph/gdHOh

Taiwan might get in some licks on China, and China would also face Russian-style economic sanctions. China's apparently having some food issues now. Don't believe they've ever eradicated the latest bout of African swine flu. They buy a lot of food from the USA.