Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[LUNEKO]

You'd get 100% suicide rate withing 24 hours if you tried to disconnect the redditors, they can't survive without their heckin poggers updoot award.

I mean they are getting 100% casualty rate otherwise

 

[Pixy]

Has Switzerland maintained their neutrality this time around?

Did Russia pay them enough?

 

[DumbDude42]

Then they better hope that they EU doesn't treat it as a "blood in the water" sort of moment.

the swiss are already up to their neck in EU entanglements. their "neutrality" and independence is mostly gone at this point, they're an EU member in all but name

 

[The Last Boyscout]

You'd get 100% suicide rate withing 24 hours if you tried to disconnect the redditors, they can't survive without their heckin poggers updoot award.

I mean really, what's the point of signing up to defend some slavic shithole if you can't at least get internet asspats for it, so as to validate your fragile ego?

 

[Bob jensen]

You'd get 100% suicide rate withing 24 hours if you tried to disconnect the redditors, they can't survive without their heckin poggers updoot award.

I approve.

 

[PS1gamenwatch]

Not sure if brought up but one of our old friends brought this up

If their forces combined it might scare many to provoke a need for defense

 

[AnOminous]

If they got the cell carriers control center they can literally just sit back and watch the affiliation display. A whole bunch of fresh SIM cards or out of country ones just showed up on a tower? There be redditors

Triangulate from two or three towers and you could get the telemetry to fire a cruise missile directly at that specific redditor. And that's assuming they don't have exploits that get the phone just to send you its GPS directly. Come to think of it, some of these people are probably stupid enough to turn on that shit that literally makes your exact location public on social media, and then go to war.

 

[Aidan]

You know, that's actually a really good point, but why don't they just isolate Ukrainians from the outside world? Most of the shit we're getting from sources that aren't biased as shit is Ukrainians posting online. Wouldn't it be more expedient to cut them off from the wider network on the tower end and monitor the locations of shitloads of phones instead? Telegram is kinda really important to Ukrainian resistance, so nipping it in the bud at the source would surely be a better idea?

This of course doesn't eliminate wifi, satellite, broadband, carrier pigeon and whatever cave paintings based system they use right now, but there's ways to cut them off, surely?

Leaving it on gives a ton of live intelligence, presumably.
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia has acquired Telegram chat keys and is actively monitoring the rooms Ukrainians use to coordinate in.

To elaborate, if Russia is in the telco networks they can probe people's phones for vulnerabilities from their own home wifi or 3G and then just yoink the encryption keys off of the weakest link. The keys will be good until a new room is made which won't happen often.

The cyber aspect of all of this hasn't been talked about in the mainstream but it's no doubt interesting and a front the Ukrainians lost years ago.

 

[doesnotglow]

If Google went full fascist in 2003

 

[Aidan]

If Google went full fascist in 2003

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All "cake" videos get demonetized. SAD!

 

[The Last Boyscout]

I can only imagine how many more cases of these brave redditor '4 lions' will have to happen, until they finally send all of these mr. Beans volunteers home lol:

 

[Jump]

Triangulate from two or three towers and you could get the telemetry to fire a cruise missile directly at that specific redditor. And that's assuming they don't have exploits that get the phone just to send you its GPS directly. Come to think of it, some of these people are probably stupid enough to turn on that shit that literally makes your exact location public on social media, and then go to war.

I dont know if they have something like E911 in EU but if you have the NOC you can "ping" the cellphone and it will respond with its lat/lon. Its is in the baseband on the phone and you have no control over it. Its not the same GPS radio your OS uses for stuff like maps and location services. Even "dumb" phones support E911.
The don't. As of 2014 the EU was still arguing about the spec. But having the NOC would at least tell you what tower they where on.

In the USA any cell phone made after 1998 doesn't need to be triangulated.

 

[Pixy]

Triangulate from two or three towers and you could get the telemetry to fire a cruise missile directly at that specific redditor. And that's assuming they don't have exploits that get the phone just to send you its GPS directly. Come to think of it, some of these people are probably stupid enough to turn on that shit that literally makes your exact location public on social media, and then go to war.

American troops have been caught in the open turning on tracking features on their fitbits, personal tech accessories, and even fitness apps. If that's what happens with the US military, with internet LARPers it'll be much more rampant and worse.

 

[LUNEKO]

The cyber aspect of all of this hasn't been talked about in the mainstream but it's no doubt interesting and a front the Ukrainians lost years ago.

It does make me wonder how much is the HACKERMAN aspect actually affecting this war, or if its actually not doing that much and its just gay social media point collection

 

[Hell on Earth]

I don't know why everyone here is acting as if a NATO invasion of Russia (no nukes involved) would be like a walk in park based on how the Russians have performed so far in this war.

Most invasions of Russia have started with the invaders having total confidence that Russia will be anihilated after seeing the Russian army being humiliated (battle of Friedland with Napoleon, Battle of Narva with Charles Xll of Sweden, The winter war and now this) but somehow the Russians manage to get on top in the end.

Maybe it's Generals winter and mud, the morale boost of fighting for the homeland, the vastness of Russia, I don't know.

Maybe Russia has lost that magic and maybe NATO would end up being as successful as the Mongols and will just vassalize Russia for hundreds of years.

 

[Coccxys]

Here in the UK when I was in the police I used mobile triangulation a couple of times for high risk missing persons. It only gave a rough position, between a 10 yard and 1 mile radius depending on the density of towers in the area. I can't imagine it being much better in Ukraine.

 

[Meat Target]

If they got the cell carriers control center they can literally just sit back and watch the affiliation display. A whole bunch of fresh SIM cards or out of country ones just showed up on a tower? There be redditors

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Triangulate from two or three towers and you could get the telemetry to fire a cruise missile directly at that specific redditor. And that's assuming they don't have exploits that get the phone just to send you its GPS directly. Come to think of it, some of these people are probably stupid enough to turn on that shit that literally makes your exact location public on social media, and then go to war.

Leaving it on gives a ton of live intelligence, presumably.
I wouldn't be surprised if Russia has acquired Telegram chat keys and is actively monitoring the rooms Ukrainians use to coordinate in.

To elaborate, if Russia is in the telco networks they can probe people's phones for vulnerabilities from their own home wifi or 3G and then just yoink the encryption keys off of the weakest link. The keys will be good until a new room is made which won't happen often.

The cyber aspect of all of this hasn't been talked about in the mainstream but it's no doubt interesting and a front the Ukrainians lost years ago.

American troops have been caught in the open turning on tracking features on their fitbits, personal tech accessories, and even fitness apps. If that's what happens with the US military, with internet LARPers it'll be much more rampant and worse.

Here in the UK when I was in the police I used mobile triangulation a couple of times for high risk missing persons. It only gave a rough position, between a 10 yard and 1 mile radius depending on the density of towers in the area. I can't imagine it being much better in Ukraine.

This can all be avoided if you subscribe to NordVPN.

 

[Aidan]

It does make me wonder how much is the HACKERMAN aspect is actually affecting this war, or if its actually not doing that much

There's probably an entirely separate war going on behind the scenes in Ukraine. Western intelligence is probably trying to simultaneously sneak around the networks to learn how Russia does wartime military-operation-time hackerman stuff and trying to deter them in other areas.

Cyber "war" is different in that as long as you don't shut down a powerplant or something then anything is fair game without it being a declaration of war so I imagine 5-eyes is all up in there and everyone sees each other but pretends not to and hopes no one sees them.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

That one time 4chan called a Russian Air Strike on a terrorist training camp was a beautiful thing and I'm glad the Russians learned from it. Hope the Reddit gold was worth it.

I was in that thread. The internet in 2014-2016 was crazy. Web 2.0 was in full effect and 4chan's cancer was end-stage but the reactionary movement was fighting it. A year earlier, we were Baneposting after Based Lubitz crashed his plane with no survivors. The silver age of BestGore and LiveLeak. Sad how things have gotten worse so quickly, and probably a sign that the Great Reset is real.

 

[Mr Bunny]

Maybe it's Generals winter and mud, the morale boost of fighting for the homeland, the vastness of Russia, I don't know.

Russia kept pushing eastward to make themselves unconquerable.