Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Disheveled Human]

I don't know why everyone here is acting as if a NATO invasion of Russia (no nukes involved) would be like a walk in park based on the Russian performance in this war.

Most invasions of Russia have started with the invaders having total confidence that Russia will be anihilated after seeing the Russian army being humiliated (battle of Friedland with Napoleon, Battle of Narva with Charles Xll of Sweden, The winter war and now this) but somehow the Russians manage to get on top in the end.

Maybe it's Generals winter and mud, the morale boost of fighting for the homeland, the vastness of Russia, I don't know.

Maybe Russia has lost that magic and maybe NATO would end up being as successful as the Mongols and will just vassalize Russia for hundreds of years.

I don't feel as if anyone really cared to bother invading Russia in modern times, any ideas of it was wrenched when they became a nuclear power. The west for obvious reasons do not want them to expand. Hence the war that is currently ongoing.

 

[Coccxys]

Russia kept pushing eastward to make themselves unconquerable.

That plus scorched earth, leave absolutely nothing for the enemy to use. After a few hundred miles of that the logistics to keep your forced alive and moving becomes onerous.

 

[Walrus and Carpenter]

I have to point out that on a board where free speech is welcome, some of you are wanting to silence a POV you don't like from a user with the worst profile pic on this site. I don't like it either, but analize the videos and move on.

I'm interested in the analysis.

The user in question is an NPC, it doesn't have a point of view, it is not human.

 

[Commandant Swordfish]

Sad how things have gotten worse so quickly, and probably a sign that the Great Reset is real.

Honestly, at this point, we should just drop "Conspiracy Theories" as a term and adopt "Spoiler Alerts" as the new title.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I don't know why everyone here is acting as if a NATO invasion of Russia (no nukes involved) would be like a walk in park based on the Russian performance in this war.

Most invasions of Russia have started with the invaders having total confidence that Russia will be anihilated after seeing the Russian army being humiliated (battle of Friedland with Napoleon, Battle of Narva with Charles Xll of Sweden, The winter war and now this) but somehow the Russians manage to get on top in the end.

Maybe it's Generals winter and mud, the morale boost of fighting for the homeland, the vastness of Russia, I don't know.

Maybe Russia has lost that magic and maybe NATO would end up being as successful as the Mongols and will just vassalize Russia for hundreds of years.

I know the children whose parents were political emigres from the USSR who would flip their shit and volunteer to fight for Russia if it was faced with a legit threat from a NATO invasion. Say what you will about Russia but Russians really love the place.

I was in that thread. The internet in 2014-2016 was crazy. Web 2.0 was in full effect and 4chan's cancer was end-stage but the reactionary movement was fighting it. A year earlier, we were Baneposting after Based Lubitz crashed his plane with no survivors. The silver age of BestGore and LiveLeak. Sad how things have gotten worse so quickly, and probably a sign that the Great Reset is real.

I remember that time and particular thread too. I really miss it.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Russia kept pushing eastward to make themselves unconquerable.

They went so far eastward they afforded us Alaska which was very nice of them.

 

[DumbDude42]

American troops have been caught in the open turning on tracking features on their fitbits, personal tech accessories, and even fitness apps. If that's what happens with the US military, with internet LARPers it'll be much more rampant and worse.

the more i think about it the more i am convinced that a strict "no phones" policy needs to be mandatory for all military and security related positions.

 

[Mussi]

I have to point out that on a board where free speech is welcome, some of you are wanting to silence a POV you don't like from a user with the worst profile pic on this site. I don't like it either, but analize the videos and move on.

I'm interested in the analysis.

For the record, I wasn't asking for them to be threadbanned, I was mostly curious why it hasn't happened yet when they're responsible for probably 20+ pages of slapfighting at this point. Still, I'm not one to call for people to be banned from a thread for being a moron/troll as it's mostly the fault of the people still arguing with them instead of hitting ignore. There's really nothing to analyze about the videos they post though. It's almost all old, propaganda, or both.

 

[Inebriated Raccoon]

I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

 

[Mussi]

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I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

Marco Rubio is either full of shit or has ESP. Either way, he needs to be dropped out of a helicopter in a video game.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

"Sovereign nation" , now thats a good joke.

My apologies, not enough "hurr durr, US patsy state something something globohomo bad soviet dictatorship nostalgia good" for you?

 

[Bob jensen]

School me on NPC

 

[Aidan]

I don't know why everyone here is acting as if a NATO invasion of Russia (no nukes involved) would be like a walk in park based on how the Russians have performed so far in this war.

Most invasions of Russia have started with the invaders having total confidence that Russia will be anihilated after seeing the Russian army being humiliated (battle of Friedland with Napoleon, Battle of Narva with Charles Xll of Sweden, The winter war and now this) but somehow the Russians manage to get on top in the end.

Maybe it's Generals winter and mud, the morale boost of fighting for the homeland, the vastness of Russia, I don't know.

Maybe Russia has lost that magic and maybe NATO would end up being as successful as the Mongols and will just vassalize Russia for hundreds of years.

I think media has hyped up Russia as this hyper-efficient and brutal war machine for so long that people just figured Russia would conduct a live demonstration of Cold War fears where a line of tanks just rolls right over the enemy in record time.
That didn't happen and it was always Cold War hysteria anyway. Combined with most people only seeing pro-Ukrainian propaganda of Russians constantly getting stomped on, people have a skewed view of reality.

That said, I personally think the US alone could ultimately defeat Russia's military but the public may not accept the costs.

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I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

>new #Putin strategy
Same as the old one.

 

[Disheveled Human]

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I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

If they are just starting the assault then I would imagine stiff resistance. Kyiv has had weeks to prepare unlike places like Kharkiv which is still an ongoing battle and Kharkiv boarders Russia.

 

[Strix454]

I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

Zelensky doesn't matter. Its the Oligarchs who put Zelensky in power who matter.

 

[Jump]

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I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

Marco that's not a "new" strategy. Thats the tried and true soviet way.
Putin tried to do it the fancy and clean way but clearly that isn't possible with slav's.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

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I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

I like how he has this tone that this is such an evil thing to do out of the bounds of normal warfare. I think degrading your enemy's military is one of the biggest parts of waging a war.

 

[Rezza]

Oh shit here comes china's turn.

I fell asleep halfway through the stream, what did the Chinese said in the meeting?

Found this photo from earlier
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that a Russian uniform?

Okay, this is getting absurd. The US Army lost 18 generals killed or missing in combat in the whole of the Second World War. Maybe it's just modern combat, but Russia getting to 1/6 of that in two weeks does not bode well.

There's an estimate that Russia started an invasion with 20 generals, 3 death in just two weeks is just really bad for them. And if its true that generals in Russian doctrine is much more in direct command than the western are, that's going to screw up with their planning even more

If you read Yuri Bezmenov's book Love Letter To America (Edit: maybe 'pamphlet' would be a better word?), you will find that he defected to gay disco globohomo USA because, as a KGB officer posted to India, the NazBol USSR refused to let him miscegenate with an Indian woman, and insisted he marry a nice Russian girl.

This whataboutism is just so ridiculous you're going to have to try really hard to find a worse one

Melitopol - CCTV footage of the abduction of Ivan S. Fedorov, mayor of Melitopol by Russian soldiers.
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Kherson - Russian soldiers are looting a supermarket.
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B-But people are telling me only the Ukrainians are doing that. You mean they're lying this whole time? lol

Wonder what happened to that mayor now, and why the Russian kidnapped him in the first place

I don't know guys why are you even disscussing US bioweapon. It's already been confirmed, as well as it is designed to kill only slavs.
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duh

Wasn't this the tweet that got him suspended? And I seriously doubt any claim this guy made especially since he loves deleting stuff when proven wrong

I can't get over how the Russian government is (presumably) doing some PsyOps shit to make the Ruble look better on the monthly record. Every fucking day since March began at exactly 1:30 PM UTC the Ruble spikes to exactly .010 USD, before plummeting back down, since that's when the value of the day is recorded. I can see them doing this even when the actual value turns into 0.001 or below.
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If this is true, that's really pathetic

Well it actually does seem that the Russians have more vehicles than the Ukrainians have missiles, but at this point I have to question the value of the whole affair. Day 1 the Russophiles were pretty adamant that this was all worth it and that they would sacrifice thousands of slavs to bring Ukraine under Russian control, but if they still believe that then they're blind to the actual cost of the conflict. One person suggested that Ukraine is rich in natural resources, which is completely laughable. The only resource in Ukraine is agriculture, and the Russians have plenty of unused agricultural land themselves. It would have been far better to spend the nations resources on developing Russian soil than dropping bombs on Ukrainian soil.

At some point the Russophiles will have to agree that it was rather stupid to turn Russian geopolitical fears into a self fulfilling prophesy, you do not dissuade anyone from joining the "anti-russia alliance" by invading those not in the alliance. China has done far better with a more underhanded approach to political influence rather than using force. And no, you do not get to justify Russian aggression because Moscow is "too vulnerable" if you can line NATO troops on the Ukrainian border. Almost anyone who isn't the US is in a vulnerable position in case of an invasion, and perhaps it would be better to secure the border through cooperation rather than giving every nation you border an excuse to hit back. Funnily enough the Russians are more in danger of losing territory to China than NATO. Only China is flooding Russia with its citizens and giving themselves a future excuse to secure Russian territory to "protect the Chinese people" just like how Russia is claiming Ukrainian territory to "protect the Russian people"

Considering we are seeing cases of vehicles breaking down due to shitty maintenance, I seriously doubt how many vehicles they have left that are in battle-ready condition

Theory that Putin has detached himself from the world through Covid isolation so much that he is now an erratic ruler.
(Apparently people had to severely quarantine in special hotels before meeting Putin etc.)

I don't think that's just a theory anymore, I mean just look at the long ass table

A question, Russia says it entered a war because it can't have NATO members on its borders. But if they conquer Ukraine wouldn't that mean that the neighboring countries that are part of NATO are now a target for invasion?

Now you understand why the Russian justify doesn't really makes sense. I mean, they already have lots of NATO members on their borders

I have to point out that on a board where free speech is welcome, some of you are wanting to silence a POV you don't like from a user with the worst profile pic on this site. I don't like it either, but analize the videos and move on.

I'm interested in the analysis.

That's the hypocrisy of some people, always makes me laugh whenever it happened

 

[Tim Curry]

probably a sign that the Great Reset is real.

I mean, Schwabb literally wrote this book if you do want spoilers. Not sure if it covers it all, but you get the gist

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[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I don't know why everyone here is acting as if a NATO invasion of Russia (no nukes involved) would be like a walk in park based on how the Russians have performed so far in this war.

Most invasions of Russia have started with the invaders having total confidence that Russia will be anihilated after seeing the Russian army being humiliated (battle of Friedland with Napoleon, Battle of Narva with Charles Xll of Sweden, The winter war and now this) but somehow the Russians manage to get on top in the end.

Maybe it's Generals winter and mud, the morale boost of fighting for the homeland, the vastness of Russia, I don't know.

Maybe Russia has lost that magic and maybe NATO would end up being as successful as the Mongols and will just vassalize Russia for hundreds of years.

Russia's greatest strengths are:

a) A relatively large population compared to the rest of Europe.

b) A fuckhuge territory which makes logistics a bitch, which is the main reason both the French and Germans ended up getting driven back. The French because Russians basically used guerilla tactics against Napoleon who was expecting to crush them in conventional combat and the Germans because their logistics had always sucked ass going back to WW1 and they were still using fucking horses to drag their shit thousands of miles plus ideology was poisoning their military.

Also Lend-Lease for the latter but I'm a bit more generous to the Russians and reckon they would've beaten German anyway but it would have taken a couple more years.

The first one is increasingly less of a threat due to Russia's catastrophic demographics and the second one isn't as much of a challenge in the modern age where getting shit from point A to point B is increasingly simplified. Especially since we are talking about the US military which, for all its flaws, is still the king of logistics.