Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Bob jensen]

I need to tell myself, and will reiterate the posts of others, go outside. Touch grass, breathe air, and live.

God, save us all.

 

[RedDelicious]

I hate the antichrist

Drink your corn syrup.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Things are getting a little to messy at home. Between inflation, crime, gas prices, and now talk of BIOLABS after COVID.
The Dems just want this shit to go away. NATO will set up a DMZ on their lines and Ukraine will be sacrificed to the corn so that we may have a good election. There is zero chance they want to start a hot war now.

I mean the way things are they already have a lot of the issues solved at getting directly involved. They seem to have support of most people, communications to Russia are being severed as we speak, no fly-zones are all set up uniformly in western nations and they are cut off almost entirely to all of the wests economy. It doesn't get more real then that.

 

[Screamer]

Try telling people this and they will find a way to dismiss it. The very people who supported the iraq war to only turn around and claim there were no WMDs and they were always against it will do the same here in a decade.

I've had some conversations about the cancelling of everything Russian and people are like, "eh whatever, war bad, it's fine." They don't actually think about it.


My experience is people who were all pro-Iraq war, WMDs, pro-torture. Generally lack any hindsight or even process if they were wrong or know what they thought at the time. They have just moved on.

A friend of mine who I used to get in arguments over Iraq, WMDs, torture etc. Did admit he got the WMDs and the war wrong. However he's now all gender is a social construct, orange man bad and some woke stuff. So we have sometimes gotten into arguments again over that. Which was shocking, because I honestly don't know where peers of mine got indoctrinated by the woke shit. None of it was in schools or high education when we went through it.

 

[Mysterious Girlfriend X]

No discussion of anything outside of the narrative that Ukraine was the most peaceful place on earth, full of good white Christians until Thanos attacked.

Did you just wake up from a 30 year coma?

 

[Hell on Earth]

I may be a retard for saying this but modern militaries could end up being kind of unecessary in large scale wars for a long time if more nations end up with nukes.

These highly specialized modern militaries can only hope to engage enemies from shithole countries or countries without nukes while excluding any possibility of engaging nuclear nations with similar military capabilities.

I just hope that doctrine, equipment and training will be up to date when nukes become somehow ineffective or obsolete because if that doesn't happen then we will have a rude awakening the likes of which we haven't seen since 1914.

 

[Screamer]

Did you just wake up from a 30 year coma?

I'm just reflecting on how things are getting worse at an accelerating rate.

 

[B_mizz]

The only reason why Ukraine is still Ukraine is because the west is propping it up so hard. If the west stopped support and intel as soon as the invasion began the situation would be looking super one sided.

Right. My thing is to push against the programming going into the NPCs right now that Ukraine needs us to attack Russia. Which is obviously something we should not do.

 

[Narcotics]

I mean the way things are they already have a lot of the issues solved at getting directly involved. They seem to have support of most people, communications to Russia are being severed as we speak, no fly-zones are all set up uniformly in western nations and they are cut off almost entirely to all of the wests economy. It doesn't get more real then that.

I'm ODing in hopium, but a no fly zone won't happen anytime soon simply because it means NATO/burgers directly shooting up russian planes, AKA instant ww3, Poland telling burgers "if you want to send them planes then send them yourself" was basically telling them to fuck off because they don't want to be in direct conflict with vodkas.
Besides, a no fly zone wouldn't be as effective, below is copypaste of what i said pages ago about it.

Spoiler: sperg

A no-fly zone wouldn’t stop Russia from using their artillery units able to hit a target accurate to within a meter at a distance of 70 km like that.
It also wouldn’t stop the carpet bombing of civilian areas either.
The Ukrainians may think they are dropped from planes because the planes can do spotting from above, or drones can.
Then they may see the bomb fall apparently from the sky - but it could have been fired even from tens of kilometers away - the shell would be fired upwards at an angle and just as if you throw something to someone, if you throw it up high it will seem to come down to them from the sky above them.
So - this idea that Ukraine could be saved by a no-fly zone really makes no sense. Even if they were to shoot down all the planes the Russians could still hit them with artillery safely from kilometers away.

It is clear that the average person in the planet does not want ww3, but the people in charge aren't average people, they are something else. I unironically believe that russia will not attack or engage NATO troups simply because it's nuclear suicide, and putin doesn't want to rule above ash. And viceversa for NATO attacking or engaging rusian forces (in ukraine).
BUT with a tinfoil hat on, i believe that burgers are trying to falseflag their way into conflict simply to own putin, I hope my retarded conspiracy is wrong but at this point, who knows man.

 

[Disheveled Human]

I may be a retard for saying this but modern militaries could end up being kind of unecessary in large scale wars for a long time if more nations end up with nukes.

These highly specialized modern militaries can only hope to engage enemies from shithole countries or countries without nukes while excluding any possibility of engaging nuclear nations with similar military capabilities.

I just hope that doctrine, equipment and training will be up to date when nukes become somehow ineffective or obsolete because if that doesn't happen then we will have a rude awakening the likes of which we haven't seen since 1914.

Nukes (in particular) M.A.D was a theory in the 1970's, I would find it difficult to believe that countries worldwide were not trying to come up with strategies against it. Does not mean it isn't the be all end all but could mean that nations have have developed effective ways of defending against 1970's tech. The Nuclear subs and Aircraft driven delivery systems may be more problematic.

 

[Screamer]

Right. My thing is to push against the programming going into the NPCs right now that Ukraine needs us to attack Russia. Which is obviously something we should not do.

Yet the media and big tech are pushing for it.

With weak western politicians struggling to balance exploiting it to boost their shitty polling figures, versus creating a situation where not starting WWIII starts to hurt their polling numbers.

 

[MrJokerRager]

I've had some conversations about the cancelling of everything Russian and people are like, "eh whatever, war bad, it's fine." They don't actually think about it.


My experience is people who were all pro-Iraq war, WMDs, pro-torture. Generally lack any hindsight or even process if they were wrong or know what they thought at the time. They have just moved on.

A friend of mine who I used to get in arguments over Iraq, WMDs, torture etc. Did admit he got the WMDs and the war wrong. However he's now all gender is a social construct, orange man bad and some woke stuff. So we have sometimes gotten into arguments again over that. Which was shocking, because I honestly don't know where peers of mine got indoctrinated by the woke shit. None of it was in schools or high education when we went through it.

Ask them if they practice religion in some traditional old fashioned manner and goes to some church.

There is a correlation between the two as when America was isolationist, it also was very traditional Christian compared to now.

 

[Ancient Pioneer]

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I doubt Zelensky would concede even if all the Ukrainian cities were leveled. But maybe he has a threshold and this plan may work.

God this fucking mental midget pisses me off. Is this some kind of forgotten esoteric knowledge that most people no longer have a instinctual understanding of? Sieges have gone on since time immemorial and they have operated on the same principles forever, surround the city and offer terms, get rejected and pulverize the defenses with artillery, whether that was catapults, cannons or modern artillery doesn't matter, same shit different millennium.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Captured Russian VDV BTR-MDM vehicle. At this point I think the Russians are supplying the Ukrainians more then the west is.

 

[Mr Bunny]

God this fucking mental midget pisses me off. Is this some kind of forgotten esoteric knowledge that most people no longer have a instinctual understanding of? Sieges have gone on since time immemorial and they have operated on the same principles forever, surround the city and offer terms, get rejected and pulverize the defenses with artillery, whether that was catapults, cannons or modern artillery doesn't matter, same shit different millennium.

Modern civilization has some how bred out people's survival instinct, basic sense is esoteric knowledge.

 

[Screamer]

It is clear that the average person in the planet does not want ww3, but the people in charge aren't average people, they are something else. I unironically believe that russia will not attack or engage NATO troups simply because it's nuclear suicide, and putin doesn't want to rule above ash. And viceversa for NATO attacking or engaging rusian forces (in ukraine).
BUT with a tinfoil hat on, i believe that burgers are trying to falseflag their way into conflict simply to own putin, I hope my retarded conspiracy is wrong but at this point, who knows man.

I don't think the average person even knows what they're wanting Western and NATO leaders to do risks WWIII and nuclear suicide. They're all just suffering from the engagement and outrage algorithms.


Looking at the propaganda machine, they've already provided cover for a false flag. When it came to a nuclear incident after there was a flare near a nuclear power plant. The cover for a false flag seemed to just be a result of the way the media and politicians were pushing the propaganda.

Now we directly have officials saying any biological/chemical weapons attack can and will only be done by the Russians. Which is directly providing cover for a false flag.

Now, what would the result of such an incident be? I don't know. I assume to further sway global political opinion to further condemn Russia and enact sanctions.

 

[Matt Damon]

i believe that burgers are trying to falseflag their way into conflict simply to own putin

To what end, though? It's not like Russian nukes are magically off the table if the US can make the world believe it was attacked first.

 

[Screamer]

To what end, though? It's not like Russian nukes are magically off the table if the US can make the world believe it was attacked first.

To turn more nations against Russia. Even if they know it's a false flag. It may be effective at making Russia too politically toxic for countries not condemning them or not giving a shit.

Further isolating Russia and as a tool to push against Russia's allies. As the US Empire expands its dominance.

 

[Disheveled Human]

To what end, though? It's not like Russian nukes are magically off the table if the US can make the world believe it was attacked first.

Maybe the west is tired of old Putin threatening them with nukes and is saying fuck that try it bitch so we can all just go to a better place. We can continue the fight with the Russians in hell.

 

[MrJokerRager]

To what end, though? It's not like Russian nukes are magically off the table if the US can make the world believe it was attacked first.

There is the small possibility that many in the Democratic Party have lost all sense of reality, since they believe Twitter is real life.

And might have entertained the possibility that Putin will not glass America if America tries to invade Russia.

It does make sense if you realize the American education system is absolute pure trade A shit. And the conservatives don't provide any meaningful opposition to liberals.

And liberals have probably bought into the bullshit pushed by Maher and Cenk that Putin might be a "based white trad Christian faggot killer" and think he must be no different than a cuckservative.

However this is a small possibility though.

It's more like Biden doesn't care if Russia rapes Ukraine.