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silverstacks said:
Captain Dementia speculates on the next country Putin might invade. You'll never guess which one!

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Even with most of the media (habitually) on his side, it will be pretty hilarious to see how CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times will try to spin this as a ”optimistic” thing.
 
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Gehenna said:
You're is literally no way to "disqualify" a presidential nominee. Anyone who says there is, is either an idiot, horribly ignorant, or being willfully stupid.
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All three of those describe the 1/6 committee, I'd say, since that's the tack they're taking and why they're so desperate to make that insurrection label stick. It seems their only hope of preventing Trump from running again is to use Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, claiming that he participated in a rebellion against the United States after swearing to defend the Constitution, and is thus disbarred from holding public office again. It's the only reason the committee exists; well, that, and also using blatantly unconstitutional powers to dig up any dirt on their political enemies that they can.

I see all manner of issues with attempting to make this happen, however. The most obvious is that the committee is pretty much operating outside of the law, and any evidence used to support their insurrection claims could arguably be thrown out in court if it ever gets that far. There's also the Amnesty Act of 1872 that more or less nullified Section 3 in the case of former Confederates, which was used by a federal judge to throw out a lawsuit against Madison Cawthorn, so I guess the argument is that unless that law is replaced by a newer one that states that Trump is a big meanie doodoohead and can't run for president, its precedent stands. IANAL, however, and who knows how it could end up once it fully works its way through the system.

I do fucking lol at the tranny jannies on Wikipedia devoting a portion of their Fourteenth Amendment article bigger than the explanation of Section 3 to how it totally definitely applies to Trump.
 
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Gehenna said:
Here is the thing, you are wrong and it is bat shit why.

Treason, felonies, any legal thing short of impeachment -from sitting office- do not disqualify someone from running for President.


Constitutionally, the only time disqualification comes up is only ever in relation to impeachment from standing office.


Addition: What you are likely thinking of is various state election omnibus bills. The thing is, they-do not apply- to the Presidency. Only local or state level politicians. It's an amazing oversight.
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You have no idea what you are talking about. I literally just explained to you what disqualifies you from running for president, I literally just explained to you that the senate has the right to add disqualification from running for office as part of the punishment imposed on a conviction following an impeachment. It is their decision whether its imposed or not

As for the constitution, article 14 is quite clear about the ability to disqualify anyone from running for office for engaging in insurrection or rebellion. In other words, treason. I'll say it again - this is the reason the left has been so adamant about either getting trump impeached and convicted - even after leaving office, or hitting him with responsibility over the january 6 'insurrection.' Its been an explicitly stated goal since it happened. Its the reason it keeps getting called an insurrection and why before that they kept accusing him of being a traitor, particularly in regards to russia
 
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The new Wall Street Journal poll is pretty brutal when looking at the cross tabs. Biden's favorability is 41%, Trump is 48%. His handling of inflation is underwater by 29 points, and when asked who they trust to rebuild the economy, those polled said they trust the Republicans by 13 points. This poll was done mostly with suburban and urban voters, only 22% of those polled were rural citizens. Another question said they trusted Republicans to get inflation under control by 17 points.
 
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I don't even like Putin and I want all these fucking pre-Boomers and their Boomer advisers to die off so these retards stop thinking the only acceptable foreign policy threat is Russia.
The next country to be invaded is gonna be Taiwan, because Putin's already got puppet regimes in Central Asia and all the other western states he might invade joined NATO already, or are day 1 admitees.
 
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albert the programmer said:
Even with most of the media (habitually) on his side, it will be pretty hilarious to see how CNN, MSNBC and the New York Times will try to spin this as a ”optimistic” thing.
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CNN:

“You see, ahhh… This statement is actually correct. No one wanted Putin in office, but like Trump he took it by force because he is a dictator. Biden just wants democracy to be able to happen in Russia, but a Putin invasion, much like Trump, means their freedoms are fully gone. Stop asking questions.”
 
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silverstacks said:
Captain Dementia speculates on the next country Putin might invade. You'll never guess which one!

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......... oh I get it

Russia wants to be the U.S.S.R. once again, but Putin is preventing them from doing so.

Biden knows where Russia's routes are and where they belong

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Lord of the Large Pants said:
When people talk about Biden's "handlers", who exactly do they mean? I understand the general concept, of course, but who's actually handling him? Harris? Pelosi? Psaki? Shadowy campaign donors? Da jooz? Who?
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I'd say all but Psaki on that list are contributing to an extent
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
When people talk about Biden's "handlers", who exactly do they mean? I understand the general concept, of course, but who's actually handling him? Harris? Pelosi? Psaki? Shadowy campaign donors? Da jooz? Who?
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A lot of interested parties telling him their desires and the cabinet drilling things into his demented head.
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
When people talk about Biden's "handlers", who exactly do they mean? I understand the general concept, of course, but who's actually handling him? Harris? Pelosi? Psaki? Shadowy campaign donors? Da jooz? Who?
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It could be anyone of the people you mentioned sans Harris. There were people who wanted to help Biden get into office, and all he probably had to do was take the positions they wanted him to in return for help. Something like selling his soul if he had still had one. Now I guess he owes souls at this point.

Same with Harris -she might have had no interest in the work, but she'd we willing to play ball if she got there. Turns out neither of them are up to the task, but the role of president is more or less to be power broker: all the people who put him in office want is his signature on their legislation packages.

Maybe it doesn't matter that the two of them are fuck-ups, maybe it's jus they'll let the patients run the asylum. I don't think any of them counted on the rest of the world noticing and taking advantage of their ineptitude, though. The current crop of people trying to run the government now don't understand that the country isn't stronge because it's America, it's strong because the people before them made it way and tried to keep it that way.
 
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Lord of the Large Pants said:
When people talk about Biden's "handlers", who exactly do they mean? I understand the general concept, of course, but who's actually handling him? Harris? Pelosi? Psaki? Shadowy campaign donors? Da jooz? Who?
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Ron Klain, Jill Biden, anyone else capable of getting Biden's ear
 
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