Voice Actor Daman Mills Accused of Sexual Misconduct - Ironic, isn't it?

How much did the victim even retract? Was it a half hearted "yeah I lied, bye" ?

Because that doesn't really explain away the huge amount of texts showing he was absolutely a creep aswell as the deluge of creepy comments on his open Facebook towards other minors that are written the exact same cringey "UwU Imma weeb that's so randum" way as his creepy texts. The accuser corroborated their accusation with proof that can be backed up with years upon years of rapey comments on his Facebook and all of that cant just be poofed away by Daman using lawyers to threaten the initial accusor into a half hearted retraction

Finding a shitton of posts of him avidly using the gamer word is just icing on the cake too

He truely ruined his own reputation by posting so many questionable creepy shit as a grown man for literal years, it just took a accusation for anyone to take a look at his posting history
 
WTFisgoingon said:
How much did the victim even retract? Was it a half hearted "yeah I lied, bye" ?

Because that doesn't really explain away the huge amount of texts showing he was absolutely a creep aswell as the deluge of creepy comments on his open Facebook towards other minors that are written the exact same cringey "UwU Imma weeb that's so randum" way as his creepy texts. The victim corroborated their accusation with proof that can be backed up with years upon years of rapey comments on his Facebook and all of that cant just be poofed away by Daman using lawyers to threaten the initial accusor into a half hearted retraction

Finding a shitton of posts of him avidly using the gamer word is just icing on the cake too

He truely ruined his own reputation by posting so many questionable creepy shit as a grown man for literal years, it just took a accusation for anyone to take a look at his posting history
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I haven't followed this all too closely but from what I've seen I get the feeling the victim is a complete fucking retard. This doesn't mean he wasn't victimized/groomed by an older creepy degenerate queer (he was), but the kid seems like an unreliable closeted faggot so he probably flaked out and I wouldn't be surprised if he had Damian's pecker balls deep in his mouth as I type this.
 
Three years later, zero evidence that Vic did anything wrong. He's completely innocent yet these clowns can't leave him alone. They are obsessed with him. And in addition to that, Jamie desperately hopes that he did do something to a girl so she can say she was right. Jamie is a disgusting degenerate cunt. Yet, here we are with evidence that Daman raped a 15 year old kid. Funimation voice actors are not speaking out against him. That speaks volumes about what they are really about. They don't care about actual victims.
 
Allanon said:
Worse than the lack of evidence, people have now come to the thread and revealed where Trayce was lying in places and the response from people here has mostly been "Oh wow! You must be Ron or Daman!" or cope like "Oh well I mean it's misleading but he's not actually lying so it's fine". Trayce retracted his accusations almost immediately after being exposed, rather than providing more evidence, and the thread immediately decided that Daman must have bribed or intimidated Trayce into silence with all of his money and anime industry contacts. The ANN poster revealing that ANN was inaccurate about its reporting? Must be Daman or Ron! After all, ANN is trustworthy and has never in the past been caught using inaccurate, incomplete, or straight up false information in their reports before.
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If I saw posts from Vic saying he can't wait to uwu rape some 16 year old girls on Facebook, and asked them questions about what their genitals looked like when they were 13, I'd absolutely feel the same way about him as I do about Daman. I really don't care much about proving this individual accuser's specific allegations about what happened between him and someone else in bed years ago because there is no way to prove that unless one of them was filming what they were doing or something. The public posts are inappropriate behavior as far as I'm concerned and the fact that the statement he came out with was that it was consensual, not that it didn't happen, is pretty telling as far as lining up the behavior from texts/online postings with possible real-life contact with victim(s).

It doesn't help for my own personal feelings on the matter that I've never seen an adult use the style of texting/posting that he did at that time who wasn't a fucking creepy weirdo.
 
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Yeah, I like that the KV retard in this thread just keeps repeating "durr what about the allegations against Vic" like there is any corroborating evidence of anything on the level of these receipts against Daman and that the testimony of the mad whales wans't sent to hell by close examination in this forum and even by their own supposed witnesses like Stan. I like that their asses still hurt three years later that no one bought into this shit after people actually began looking into it. May as well still be trying to prosecute the manufactured "case" against Kavanaugh. No one is going to believe this garbage about Vic now or in the future.
 
Trayce Wilcox aka "Duncan" aka "Duncan Wentz" has issued a statement. There are issues with uploading images to the site at the moment, so I will quote him below. The google account that posted this new google doc is the same one that posted the allegations, and images of his correspondence with Anime News Network were displayed.
When I reached out to Anime News Network a few months ago, I wasn’t in the best place. I think what I really needed was advice or help, instead of this.

I retracted my allegations because I regret my actions. I’d take them all back if I could. I guess I hoped my statement yesterday would fix some of the damage I’ve caused, but instead it looks like people are spinning it to where I was threatened into retracting. I wasn’t. I haven’t heard from that attorney in weeks.

I retracted my statement because I regret my actions. Honestly, the thing I want more than anything is just for the article to be taken down.
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I am posting this to Twitter myself, so you can read my own words, without any spin or anything. I will not be commenting on this again, on this or any other social media account.
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https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/with_replies (all tweets archived)
https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/*

Given this statement, I think it is likely he was the anon poster in the ANN forums with insider information. It really looked like he was overly critical of Lynzee in the hopes she would just delete the article.
 
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Panera Bread said:
Trayce Wilcox aka "Duncan" aka "Duncan Wentz" has issued a statement. There are issues with uploading images to the site at the moment, so I will quote him below. The google account that posted this new google doc is the same one that posted the allegations, and images of his correspondence with Anime News Network were displayed.



https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/with_replies (all tweets archived)
https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/*

Given this statement, I think it is likely he was the anon poster in the ANN forums with insider information. It really looked like he was overly critical of Lynzee in the hopes she would just delete the article.
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Lynzee spilled the beans that the C&D was sent again, with the added rider that he would have to request a retraction of all claims from ANN. Is he disputing that?
 
Solid Snek said:
Yes and no.

Properly understood, "whataboutism" is a logical fallacy called Te Quoque, in which a speaker, upon being accused of something, turns around and says "you do it too, faggot!" This is considered fallacious in the context of a question about the historical fact of a certain action (whether A took a certain action has no bearing on whether B took that same action), or when trying to defend the ethics of an action, if the ethics of that action have already been established ("two wrongs don't make a right", if A does X and X is bad, then X is bad regardless of whether B did X as well)

However, most people are fucking idiots. Especially faggots.

"Whataboutism", as used by faggots ever since journos inserted the word got into our discourse two weeks ago, usually amounts to being, itself, a Galaxy Brain 180 degree Te Quoque. That is to say, people who invoke "whataboutism" almost always do so fallaciously, apparently not understanding that in the context of ethics, "two wrongs don't make a right" MEANS two wrongs don't make a right; i.e. if A does X and X is bad, then X is still bad even if A tries to say B does it too.

For example, let us imagine that we have a conflict between two sovereign nations, Troonland and Nigerstan:

Logically speaking, we cannot counter Troonlander claims of Niggerstani malfeasance just by pointing out that the Troonlander is whatabouting (though Niggerstani propagandists would dearly love you to believe this!), as pointing out the flaws in the Troonlander argument is itself a specialized form of Ad Hominem and Te Quoque; at best, we can establish that Troonland is not off the hook for malfeasance ("Troonland did X, X is bad"), but at the same time, we cannot get our beloved Niggerstan off the hook either ("Niggerstan did X too, and X is bad").

tl;dr yes it is "whatabouting", but in a technical rather than verancular sense. The faggot doing the whatabouting here probably does not recognize his own behavior as whatabouting, as he has likely been trained to only notice whatabouting when he himself has spotted an opportunity to whatabout a whatabouter.

If that makes any sense?
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Gonna drop some bombs here but that isn’t always the case because something that is fundamentally good or bad can become its opposite depending on the situation. There are expectations to the rule, but the issue lies on the situation and circumstances and how to recognize when Tu Quoque should not apply.

We all know that killing is wrong but some people deserve it, like wise helping people is good but you can help utter monsters as well willingly or out of some misguided sense of compassion. These thing can be flip on their heads and make situation of Tu quoque hazy at times as sometimes you MUST do something bad I.e a necessary evil to do good and any one that thinks that Tu Quoque applies regardless if they stand by it on principle or are assholes that want to use it to punish a necessary act can suck a fat one.

And that is why these woke punks use as one of their most powerful weapons, they will gladly use whataboutism conjunction with playing victim to deter people from calling them out while they will do the exact same shit they've accused others of with impunity. It’s not just that, but another reason why no one brings the hammer on these people is that they know how to manipulate other people’s feelings on these matters and appoint themselves as moral arbiters. So when anyone challenges them they are made out to be the villains but when they do it, then it’s fine or they downplay the scale of their fuckery.

In short, they've rigged the game.

Essentially they are the dark side twist on my point in that they want to become the expectation to the rule regarding Tu Quoque. They are not, they are the rule breakers and they deserve all what they wish upon their victims, they and their sycophants. Because it's one thing to cross lines with the risk of screwing up. It's another when someone deliberately engaging in faggotty mental gymnastics to explain why it's rules for thee but not for me by resorting to the tactics that SJW's do.

It obviously creates a problem in combating whataboutism because playing by their rules and going full "No U" mode brings a massive risk of people becoming just as bad as them as seen with ISWV and there is a massive fallout or people work towards dismantling their bullshit excuse on how they are exempt from the rules of whataboutism and show how they are not the exception which can take about of him, it can also involve the person in question exposing themselves (most likely litterally) online and getting busted for it.

Another thing I see there is a massive issue on how to counter their whataboutism. These people the ability to lack of self-reflection and feeling honest guilt. Trying to make them feel guilty isn't gonna work, they've got too much of a victim complex, but doing in a way that has consequences, well, we all know that is like lighting a match near a leaking gas pipe

I don't think Tu quoque is wrong because it helps to hold people accountable for their actions and root out hypocrites But when those same hypocrites get wise and hide behind it there needs to be a chance in tactics and understanding about it and who to properly counter it by explaining why it doesn't apply.

That's just my two cents on the matter.

TL;DR: Tu Quoque is not an airtight concept as there are exceptions based on circumstances and situations. But abusing those exceptions or claiming to be exempt is just as bad if not more so.

W-I-Z said:
I disagree with the fact that it has 'nothing' to do with Vic. They are comparable situations, especially since Daman has commented on Vic in the past and said something along the lines of 'Victims should be listened to'. Something he didn't hold up.

There is more evidence than Vic - who had his career ruined. The fact Daman sent a cease and desist does strike a cord with me, and likely others too that it does seem like an odd move for someone who said the victim comment. But, what do I know? I'm just some fag on the internet watching this shitshow.

That being said, I do agree with the sentiment that it's not a competition.

So, who thinks Daman is going to be let off? I find it odd how Vic got his career destroyed from false allegations, but people like JYB and Robbie Daymond didn't. Was it because of the hundreds who claimed the big bad Lasagna Man touched them in their dreams?

Edit: Didn't add the quote. I'm fucking retarded.
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20+ years of bullshit is still enough to create a believable story for the plebs, despite it being a loss-loss situation for FUNI has they would have had knowledge on the matter. Robby and JYB where lucky they where not in deep with FUNI, especially in Robbie's case as he was still a new star in the VA industry.

MySonDavid said:
I haven't followed this all too closely but from what I've seen I get the feeling the victim is a complete fucking retard. This doesn't mean he wasn't victimized/groomed by an older creepy degenerate queer (he was), but the kid seems like an unreliable closeted faggot so he probably flaked out and I wouldn't be surprised if he had Damian's pecker balls deep in his mouth as I type this.
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That and the redaction of his statements just screams: "I am sorry Daman-Sama, please fuck my boypussy as punishment for my disobedience". If someone is gonna make such an accusations then they better stay by their word and not allow bullies to undermine them. This is Might = Right, The more courage and proof he has, the better things will be but having the recipes without having the balls to put Daman in his place and vice versa will call his claims into question.

That said, Daman looks like a Anime faggot that escaped into our world.
 
Panera Bread said:
Trayce Wilcox aka "Duncan" aka "Duncan Wentz" has issued a statement. There are issues with uploading images to the site at the moment, so I will quote him below. The google account that posted this new google doc is the same one that posted the allegations, and images of his correspondence with Anime News Network were displayed.



https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/with_replies (all tweets archived)
https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/*

Given this statement, I think it is likely he was the anon poster in the ANN forums with insider information. It really looked like he was overly critical of Lynzee in the hopes she would just delete the article.
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That J Poulin guy sure is Daman guarding pretty hard isn't he? Same way Ron is. Kinda curious behavior towards someone who admitted to touching underage dick and asking for nudes.
 
McSneaks said:
Legitimately interested in your thoughts, why is 16 or 17 "creepy" and apparently vastly so compared to 18, when lower than 18 is more common than 18, and both are arbitrary numbers with no research or reasoning


How about 17 and a half? Is there a specific moment, or is it literally when the clock strikes 18 yo exactly?
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I explained my personal view before, but to say it again. Under 18 is generally "high school" age. If you're still in high school (or "should be" but dropped out) and anyone more than a year removed from high school is trying to have sex with you, THAT person is creepy. (Again, for me I admit an exception if say they met in high school (for example: one a freshman and the other a senior) and the relationship continued, this is still kind of creepy, but much less so)

If you meet them at say an anime convention and don't know they're that young, and strike up a conversation, then sure, whatever. But If you learn that they ARE that young and keep going, then you're a creeper. But I'm also somewhat prudish overall, so again, YMMV.
 
xyz741 said:
I explained my personal view before, but to say it again. Under 18 is generally "high school" age. If you're still in high school (or "should be" but dropped out) and anyone more than a year removed from high school is trying to have sex with you, THAT person is creepy. (Again, for me I admit an exception if say they met in high school (for example: one a freshman and the other a senior) and the relationship continued, this is still kind of creepy, but much less so)

If you meet them at say an anime convention and don't know they're that young, and strike up a conversation, then sure, whatever. But If you learn that they ARE that young and keep going, then you're a creeper. But I'm also somewhat prudish overall, so again, YMMV.
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I find it irrelevant in this case to split hairs about 17 dating 19, 16 dating 18, etc. when quite plainly based on the paper trail, Daman was profiling specifically for people who both looked and were under 18. His "uwu jailbait!" comments just reinforce that. I personally don't think appearance-wise a 17 year old and a 19 year old tend to look super different so I don't see why Daman wasn't hooking up with guys his age or older, who probably would be more experienced and better sexual partners... other than because he had some kind of fetish. Which the jailbait comments indicate imo.

The original accusation is less interesting to me personally than the other stuff he said online that showed up as a result. Nobody can prove that someone did something to them in their bed. I don't think even if the accuser is/was telling the truth that it made sense to go public with it when the juiciest details can't be substantiated and all we can really confirm is that Daman probably was a clingy nutcase obsessing over twinks.
 
Panera Bread said:
Trayce Wilcox aka "Duncan" aka "Duncan Wentz" has issued a statement. There are issues with uploading images to the site at the moment, so I will quote him below. The google account that posted this new google doc is the same one that posted the allegations, and images of his correspondence with Anime News Network were displayed.



https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/with_replies (all tweets archived)
https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/duncanwentz/*

Given this statement, I think it is likely he was the anon poster in the ANN forums with insider information. It really looked like he was overly critical of Lynzee in the hopes she would just delete the article.
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...it looks like people are spinning it to where I was threatened into retracting.
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How dumb is this guy? ANN, Mills' lawyer and he himself confirmed he was sent a cease and desist. That's literally a legal threat. What the fuck is he on about? If he was lying then that means both Mills' and ANN were lying. Once again, this is just another magnifying glass on everything. When someone writes, "so you can read my own words." it reeks of someone else's words.
 
xyz741 said:
I explained my personal view before, but to say it again. Under 18 is generally "high school" age. If you're still in high school (or "should be" but dropped out) and anyone more than a year removed from high school is trying to have sex with you, THAT person is creepy. (Again, for me I admit an exception if say they met in high school (for example: one a freshman and the other a senior) and the relationship continued, this is still kind of creepy, but much less so)

If you meet them at say an anime convention and don't know they're that young, and strike up a conversation, then sure, whatever. But If you learn that they ARE that young and keep going, then you're a creeper. But I'm also somewhat prudish overall, so again, YMMV.
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The reason so many people feel it's instinctively wrong, not even just for underage people but for large age gaps among adults, is because heterosexual relationships based entirely around sexual pleasure and companionship aren't healthy or good, and homosexual relationships are always that, since there is no chance for anything more serious (marriage/family).

At least among two fully grown adults, they both have some agency and so are both making a bad decision, but when the age gap widens, very quickly the instinct is that one person is taking advantage of the other for their own sexual pleasure. You can dismiss this as just viewing it through a traditionalist perspective, but I think it best explains why so many people reflexively feel uncomfortable when they see age gaps in relationships (instinct and tradition are connected), and homosexual relationships are even worse since sodomy is involved. Nobody wants to think about their kid taking it up the ass.

This is also why, in the proper context, an underage woman's marriage being planned by their parents is not always a bad thing, since the parents and community are monitoring the man and judging their relationship, there is no sex before they are married and a commitment is made so the chance they will be taken advantage of for hedonistic pleasure is lower.
 
Looks like it's high time to take the Kids gloves off. Since they boycott our guy Vic, we boycott Mills. Seriously, it's time to use their playbook against them.
 
LadiosSopp said:
That J Poulin guy sure is Daman guarding pretty hard isn't he? Same way Ron is. Kinda curious behavior towards someone who admitted to touching underage dick and asking for nudes.
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Maybe Ron actually sexually abused his son or some other poor kid. Don't ask me for proof but trust me on this one.
Mr._Blonde said:
Looks like it's high time to take the Kids gloves off. Since they boycott our guy Vic, we boycott Mills. Seriously, it's time to use their playbook against them.
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Why? First off, Kiwis don't make calls for personal crusades and making posts like that is tacky.

Secondly, he's already fucking himself over because the seeds of contempt have been planted.
 
Dumb Bitch Smoothie said:
Good for Lynzee for not dropping it because the dubbing industry overlords have decided to move on. That's a surprising move but at least someone realizes they gotta treat it with at least a fraction of the same energy they treated Vic's allegations with.

I also don't believe the kid wants to retract. I think he was forced to.

But we'll see if anything comes of it.
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that's true, but i wanna point out that ANN has been very salty recently with CR and Funi about several things. Ofc not with their Loc/translation staff, but with the producers/investors.
They had some articles criticizing CR originals and being very salty with CR canning High guardian spice.
In general, they despise CR and Funi funding stuff like shield hero, whcih they do every season, which is funny.
Dub industry is adjacent and they are just like Highschoolers with this drama stuff. like "u help my friends otherwise u are bad and i will call u names".
I'm trying to say that if they weren't at odds recently they prolly would have been more silent about this stuff.
that being said, the only way to see this is to grab popcorn and laugh at this stuff.
 
Mr._Blonde said:
Looks like it's high time to take the Kids gloves off. Since they boycott our guy Vic, we boycott Mills. Seriously, it's time to use their playbook against them.
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Canceling is always gay no matter who it is.

If you make the personal decision to never touch his works again, go for it. Don't be gay and try to convert others.
 
Haruka Konishi said:
that's true, but i wanna point out that ANN has been very salty recently with CR and Funi about several things. Ofc not with their Loc/translation staff, but with the producers/investors.
They had some articles criticizing CR originals and being very salty with CR canning High guardian spice.
In general, they despise CR and Funi funding stuff like shield hero, whcih they do every season, which is funny.
Dub industry is adjacent and they are just like Highschoolers with this drama stuff. like "u help my friends otherwise u are bad and i will call u names".
that being said, the only way to see this is to grab popcorn and laugh at this stuff.
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If they're gonna be that petty, I hope ANN continues to be stupid and releases something damning.

Would make my day.
 
Mr._Blonde said:
Looks like it's high time to take the Kids gloves off. Since they boycott our guy Vic, we boycott Mills. Seriously, it's time to use their playbook against them.
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Won't work. They have unhinged fujoshi shits who get dopamine hits and touch themselves over the idea of "doing something" who can make 30,000 calls and emails to a con to get Vic banned, all while the entire VA industry is either dead silent or echoing the constant lies about Vic.

For Mills, we'd have people with actual jobs who don't have the amplification that the female incels have, so you couldn't get the mass harassment campaigns going. All while the Texas VA scene will circle the wagons and ignore the accusations to death. Worst case scenario, they'd accuse cons of homophobia for canceling Mills and blackmail them just like they blackmailed cons into removing Vic.

You want to break through this, spend the next year replying every single time to every single VA / Con / Company hiring Mills with a "why are you hiring an admitted pedophile and accused child molester?" And expect to have to refresh twitter accounts every few days because Twitter WILL ban you for offending the blue check cucks and they WILL mass block your accounts once they ID you as a rabblerouser.
 
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