Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Narcotics]

I wish Thunderdome had a schizo reaction because let's be honest trusting a telegram message in Russian about US stuff.... just.... eh

While not perfect, the Abrams and I wouldn't doubt basically any other modern tank has a spall liner that helps with dust and shrapnel.

In my autism defense, you can't deny that there have been alot of US politicians openly calling to take direct action in ukraine, it doesn't help that the longer this goes the more desperate both sides will get.
This russian telegram, althought biased (ofc), they do link western articles time after time like washiton post and jew work times. It was weird how they didn't link anything here. So i went on my own and googled about this guy:

"Oleksiy Miacheslavovych Danilov is a Ukrainian politician. He is the current Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (since 3 October 2019)." wiki page

He's ukranian, basically zman's (the same guy saying that paris will be next or whatever) national security on domestic and international advisor, i still cannot seems to find any source about if the guy really did say this, But seeing as how zman is practically begging for nato support even after accepting that nato won't accept ukraine any time soon, im 40% confident that the claim is real, the rest 60% is fog because, well, trust no one i guess.

EDIT: Thank you MrJokerRager for finding the closest thing to the claim,

 

[MrJokerRager]

@Narcotics Well I tried to find the interview but unable to, this is the closest I can find, some some website that is registered in Ukraine.

The world must realise that this is the beginning of World War III - Danilov

Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council (RNBO), Oleksiy Danilov, noted that the world must realise that the war against Ukraine was the beginning of the Third World War.

Source: Oleksiy Danilov, an interview with 'Novoye Vremya'

Verbatim: "The world must realise that this is the beginning of World War III. If someone thinks that it will bypass them, then they live in illusions and do not understand what Putin's racism is, what modern Russia is…."

"If China decides to support Russia with military aid, then World War III is inevitable."

"We saw that all Chinese companies collapsed following the Russian ones on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange. If the Chinese leadership believes that they (share) the fate of Russia, then it's their right. Let them try to fight the whole world. "

Details: The spirit of Ukrainian society, the military, our sworn brothers and sisters is sky-high, according to RNBO Secretary. This is another reason why the Belarusian military does not want to fight Ukraine and its people.

Verbatim: "They have information on how many bodies of Russian dead soldiers are sent to Belarus. One could hide this on the first, second, third day of the war. Now that the war has been going on for some time, the whole world already understands what is happening here."

Danilov added that Russia has no interest in the fate of Russians captured in Ukraine. Russia consistently fails to collect the bodies of the killed invaders.

RNBO Secretary also noted that the world underestimated the strength and potential of the Ukrainian army and people: "All intelligence, including the German, gave us three or four days for this operation. When did Kadyrovtsy march on Khreshchatyk? Oh, that's right: never, damn it! They will march back home in zinc coffins straight to the cemetery. "

 

[Rezza]

Any updates that aren’t just /pol/ tier cheering for Russia?

Its still six in the morning in Ukraine, wait for a few hours for a combat update

 

[Penis Drager]

simply retarded.

Well that's just par for the course.
But given that this IS happening in the European theater and we ARE having this same sort of mass media shitstorm over it DOES make the correlation a lot more striking.
WW2 would not have happened if not for this exact sort of bullshit happening in countries people half-assed cared about at the time.

[edit: not that I'm saying this will result in WW3. But the correlation is a tad closer than what you're making it out to be.]

 

[Smity Werbenjagermanjensen]

So, from 31? 33? US generals killed in WWII, 13 were from accidental plane crashes, another fell from a balcony, another disputed, possibly by accident... I had no idea generals were so accident prone.

Yeah 33 my fuck up, a fair amount of those plane crashes were over the Pacific and Atlantic, so if a major problem occurred and the plane wasn't near an island with an airfield they were fucked. I guess historians just guessed it must have been an accident because there would have been no hostiles in the area and the enemy didn't take credit for it.

 

[Dave_Ph]

I say nightmare but I was like a passive observer, I never felt real afraid.

I was reminded of the 2003 video game Freedom Fighters and was listening to it's soundtrack, which is probably why I had that dream.

There's something weird going on with my subconscious lately though, I had a dream I was in this haunted house, opened the fridge and this rotting maggot like worm covered zombie popped out and grabbed me, but I never felt afraid like in a typical nightmare, again, it was like being an outside observer than "in the action" so to speak.

If you want to get Freudian I guess all the shit that has happened these last two years just have me feeling emotionally numb.


No, not Orlando! That's home to the Universal Studios Florida resort!

Sounds like the start of schizophrenia

 

[inception_state]

yeah america was very compromised by commie sympathisers at the time. that's also how the ussr got its nuclear weapons - some commie jew from america gave them info on how it's done. he got caught and received the death penalty for it, but the damage was done.

If you want an alternative to celebrate on Juneteenth:

> Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were American citizens who were convicted of spying on behalf of the Soviet Union. The couple were convicted of providing top-secret information about radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines and valuable nuclear weapon designs (at that time the United States was the only country in the world with nuclear weapons). Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, New York, becoming the first American civilians to be executed for such charges and the first to receive that penalty during peacetime.[1][2][3][4]

 

[mr.moon1488]

Its still six in the morning in Ukraine, wait for a few hours for a combat update

lol now that you mention it, I've noticed that neither sides seem to be using NODs since they typically have tape or some shit all over their rhino mounts.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Any updates that aren’t just /pol/ tier cheering for Russia?

Null, lock all russian and east euro IPs and known accounts into one thread and have it read only for everyone else.

 

[Rezza]

Right, I found this, Russian helicopters being destroyed on Kherson Airport after a Ukrainian strike
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1503864619932205065

 

[Jump]

The real challenge for an Abrams in eastern Europe isn't the enemy tanks but the bridges on the way to the fight (and the protection of the fuel trucks required to feed its thirsty gas turbine) because it weighs nearly twice as much as the t-72

That extra weight has a reason. The Abrams can poke all sorts of holes in a T-72 but last I checked a T-72 cant do anything to an Abrams.
T-72's are great so long as they don't go against any sort of modern tank. T-72's where designed 60 fucking years ago

 

[Kenya Jones]

In my autism defense, you can't deny that there have been alot of US politicians openly calling to take direct action in ukraine, it doesn't help that the longer this goes the desperate both sides will get.
This russian telegram, althought biased (ofc), they do link western articles time after time like washiton post and jew work times. It was weird how they didn't link anything here. So i went on my own and googled about this guy:

"Oleksiy Miacheslavovych Danilov is a Ukrainian politician. He is the current Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (since 3 October 2019)." wiki page

He's ukranian, basically zman's (the same guy saying that paris will be next or whatever) national security on domestic and international advisor, i still cannot seems to find any source about if the guy really did say this, But seeing as how zman is practically begging for nato support even after accepting that nato won't accept ukraine any time zoon, im 40% confident that the claim is real, the rest 60% is fog because, well, trust no one i guess.

Just because I tell you that Bush said "I will eat every single baby in this jewish daycare" doesn't mean he actually said that, and that is the same case here. Please, research the stuff you are posting before you do, and if you cannot find anything that corroborates it, do not post it. Because I have had to say this to others before that it makes them look like idiots.

@Narcotics Well I tried to find the interview but unable to, this is the closest I can find, some some website that is registered in Ukraine.

The world must realise that this is the beginning of World War III - Danilov

Pravda is a Russian broadsheet newspaper, formerly the official newspaper of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, when it was one of the most influential papers in the country with a circulation of 11 million.

Very strange way of writing Ukrainian.

Edited: (Previously stated Lenin wrote for Pravda. It was edited by Trotsky though)

 

[MrJokerRager]

Just because I tell you that Bush said "I will eat every single baby in this jewish daycare" doesn't mean he actually said that, and that is the same case here. Please, research the stuff you are posting before you do, and if you cannot find anything that corroborates it, do not post it. Because I have had to say this to others before that it makes them look like idiots.


Very strange way of writing Ukrainian. (Btw this is the paper Lenin wrote for, I knew the name sounded familiar)

I was thinking the same but I do notice a .ua web extension and the following information.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/

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Founder: Georgiy Gongadze

Editor-in-chief: Sevgil Musayeva

Founding Editor: Olena Prytula

E-mail of the editor: editor@pravda.com.ua

I guess this is the original pravda for Russia as it has a .ru web extension.

https://gazeta-pravda.ru/

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Only here you can read articles and reports about the new anti-people actions of the Russian authorities, learn about what people of labor are doing in the struggle for their rights.

Subscription to the newspaper PRAVDA is accepted in all post offices. Pravda index in the electronic catalog of Russian Post JSC - PN239 .

Subscribe to our newspaper Pravda ! Pass the TRUTH to your friends!
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Edit: wikipedia page for Uki site.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrayinska_Pravda

 

[Madgneto Was Right]

@henst

Well that's just par for the course.
But given that this IS happening in the European theater and we ARE having this same sort of mass media shitstorm over it DOES make the correlation a lot more striking.
WW2 would not have happened if not for this exact sort of bullshit happening in countries people half-assed cared about at the time.

[edit: not that I'm saying this will result in WW3. But the correlation is a tad closer than what you're making it out to be.]

Forgive me for not thinking the correlation holds any water when the circumstances are dissimilar apart from the geographical location. The only reason why WW3 is a concern is because the web of alliances, more of a WW1 thing really, is so tangled under those under American influence and those who want to disrupt it might think now is a good moment. If the war were to expand it wouldn't be because Russian seeking to establish their Lebensraum, but because Nato, Russia or China make a move against the other.

 

[Richardface]

That extra weight has a reason. The Abrams can poke all sorts of holes in a T-72 but last I checked a T-72 cant do anything to an Abrams.
T-72's are great so long as they don't go against any sort of modern tank. T-72's where designed 60 fucking years ago

Yes, its fundamentally a defensive tank, designed to sit behind a crapload of armor in a hull down position and pick off attacking Soviet tank armies. The T-72 is designed as an attacking tank, so cheap, light, and low profile. The disadvantage of the T-72 family is they don't have the weight to be competitive with an Abrams, the disadvantage of an abrams is that in order to be king of the battlefield requires a huge vulnerable logistics train to support it, which is a criticism not only of Vatniks but US officers. The US army is in the enviable position that they have the resources to keep the abrams supplied but in a real war as resources are degraded you might see the shortcomings of the abrams brought to light. Hopefully the US is able to avoid a bloody land war with a near competitor so we never find out.

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

If you want an alternative to celebrate on Juneteenth:

> Julius Rosenberg (May 12, 1918 – June 19, 1953) and Ethel Rosenberg (née Greenglass; September 28, 1915 – June 19, 1953) were American citizens who were convicted of spying on behalf of the Soviet Union. The couple were convicted of providing top-secret information about radar, sonar, jet propulsion engines and valuable nuclear weapon designs (at that time the United States was the only country in the world with nuclear weapons). Convicted of espionage in 1951, they were executed by the federal government of the United States in 1953 at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, New York, becoming the first American civilians to be executed for such charges and the first to receive that penalty during peacetime.[1][2][3][4]

Good riddance. More international Jewish traitors needed to fry with them. Even if the Soviets were just using the traitors as a cross reference to check that their own plans were correct. Beria knew that the US might try to feed Soviet spies bad info to make them build duds.

The Rosenbergs legacy lives on in all the Chinese graduate students who steal knowledge from American universities, resulting in things like the J-20 and PL-15. I hope to see them all purged one day, but deporting them back to China would suffice.

 

[Penis Drager]

The only reason why WW3 is a concern is because the web of alliances, more of a WW1 thing really

I don't disagree there. Granted, Ukraine isn't formally part of our alliance but that's basically the only reason we aren't in WW3 yet (or perhaps the only reason Putin had the balls to do it in the first place).
Granted to that granted: The reason this happened at all was most likely because Putin didn't want Ukraine formally entangled in said alliance in the first place as affirmed, not only by many a poster here, but Russia's demands for peace.

The "alliance" thing literally is what this whole thing is about.

 

[Kenya Jones]

Yes, its fundamentally a defensive tank, designed to sit behind a crapload of armor in a hull down position and pick off attacking Soviet tank armies. The T-72 is designed as an attacking tank, so cheap, light, and low profile.

This is very funny when you realize that the Iraqi's in their T-72's got ass raped in Dessert Storm by Abrams that were advancing out in the open while they (the T-72's) were in fortified positions.

 

[Rezza]

I don't disagree there. Granted, Ukraine isn't formally part of our alliance but that's basically the only reason we aren't in WW3 yet (or perhaps the only reason Putin had the balls to do it in the first place).
Granted to that granted: The reason this happened at all was most likely because Putin didn't want Ukraine formally entangled in said alliance in the first place as affirmed, not only by many a poster here, but Russia's demands for peace.

The "alliance" thing literally is what this whole thing is about.

Sorry, but it has been said over and over again that NATO have and never will accept Ukraine's membership application unless they agreed to recognize Crimea and Donbass as Russian. The justification Russia (and its supporters) gave for this war over Ukraine joining NATO have been debunked numerous times

 

[Retink]

This is very funny when you realize that the Iraqi's in their T-72's got ass raped in Dessert Storm by Abrams that were advancing out in the open while they (the T-72's) were in fortified positions.

Allah did not protect them that day despite all of their fasting.