Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

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[No. 7 cat]

I go to work and the Ukranians are about to storm the Kremlin, i get home and the USSR has taken Washington DC.

The fact remains Russia has performed very poorly despite the disparity in means. Mariupol is still not clearly Russian occupied occupied even if they raised the red flag or victory banner. Kyiv is not surrounded on all sides and can be accessed from the south. They still do not have clear air superiority despite the colossal disparity in force. Putin seems to have hoped he could roll the Ukies like what happened before.

 

[purpleflurp]

No matter how you view Munroe / XKCD, this:
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...is every one of us, on every message board, forever.

What do you want us to do, leave? Then they'll keep being wrong!

 

[Vesperus]

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If you can't trust someone called "Big Daddy Chow", who can you trust?

 

[mr.moon1488]

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Most of us know this. That's why we're hoping when he dies from being an old fuck with a ton of medical issues, the Russian Orthodox church simply takes over by force and installs a puppet leader in his place. Lol why do they think you can go on so many western sites and find people supporting Russia, but shiting all over Putin?

 

[stakenifes]

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Oh shit, hahaha - maybe they been reading the farms. Guessing there's a few of them in here.

Edit: here's the op-ed

 

[A Logging Company]

That's just straight up false, i don't know what else to tell you.

This is literally just a "Well AHKHTHUALLY nations are a recent phenomenon" argument, and it's a poor one. The reality is i can take any point in Germany or France and draw a direct line between the people 3000 years ago and the people now and when i'm talking about a peoples, i'm talking about culture, language, history, yes even religious practices, there's a reason the Holidays have different manifestations in different cultures and have different significance even though they might share a religion.

You can't do that with slavic nations, you can pick any point in Poland, any point in Serbian and we see the same thing. We have a peoples X, we follow them, follow, follow follow...we have a disconnect and all of a sudden we have this completely different people that do not share any qualities, rites, beliefs or even symbols with the previous ones. Admittedly things are much more complicated in the Mediterranean because in the Mediterranean and Europe to a lesser extent, you have constantly over lapping empires that either tried to fully eliminate or fully integrate whoever was there before them but my point stands.

So while you can cry all you want about how arbitrary this and that is, in reality you're no better than people that say how much of a social construct sex or gender or social roles are. It's literally the same argument, just the subject is different. The reason you aren't a hairless ape throwing your shit at other hairless apes now is because of that lineage, of that history, shared or otherwise.


This is true...in the Neolithic, in the early bronze age, really most of the bronze age actually. Not when the slavs moved into europe in the slavic migration or slavic expansion, whatever the fuck you want to call it. The earliest, EARLIEST plausible date people give for the Slavic expansion is 6th century, most put at 7th. This is way passed the hunter gather phase, this is way passed the early settlers phase, this is passed the polis, passed whatever league you want to pick, you had very, very, very well established peoples in that period.

To condense my previous comment, the only reason slavs lived somewhere, is because other people put them there for their own interest.

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I never made claims of cultural homogeneity or that European cultures are unchanged. Cultures change and evolve naturally, a static culture is a dead culture.

Reading this post makes me glad bugmen stick to Harry Potter or Netflix, or we would have more of drivel like this stupid nigger just humored us with in the public discourse.

 

[Varg Did Nothing Wrong]

That's just straight up false, i don't know what else to tell you.

Oh, sorry, it was 900 AD and not 700, I'm sure those 200 years made all the difference.

The reality is i can take any point in Germany or France and draw a direct line between the people 3000 years ago and the people now and when i'm talking about a peoples, i'm talking about culture, language, history, yes even religious practices, there's a reason the Holidays have different manifestations in different cultures and have different significance even though they might share a religion.

You literally cannot lmfao. Please tell me about how the Celts living in Gaul along the Seine 500 BC are the same as the people living in Paris in 2022 AD. Culturally, linguistically, and religiously.

To condense my previous comment, the only reason slavs lived somewhere, is because other people put them there for their own interest.

Yeah, probably aliens.

Hey, while on the topic you, have you thought about going to help the Russians? They could use more 'dispensable' soldiers like you until they 'start trying'. Also your bomb-mutilated corpse would make good content, faggot.

lol calm down

 

[Drain Todger]

 

[Super-Chevy454]

That implies Zelensky is a leader instead of some other puppet.

Wouldn't be ironic to imagine Zelensky as the Frankenstein monster then TPTB lost control of him?

 

[White_N]

The Ukrainian media are shooting themselves in the head with shit like this, while informational war is the only battlefield they are winning.

Ukrainian TV host uses Adolf Eichmann quote to advocate genocide of Russians and killing their children

“I allow myself to quote Adolf Eichmann, who said that in order to destroy a nation, you must destroy, first of all, its children. Because if you kill their parents, the children will grow up and take revenge. By killing children – they will never grow up and the nation will disappear,” he said, while a photo of Eichmann appeared on the screen.
RT cover of this

 

[The Last Boyscout]

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BREAKING NEWS! RUSSIA TO DEPLOY EXPERIMENTAL AERIAL BATTLESHIP SEVASTOPOL TO UKRAINE

just need a few more decades without nukes going off, and we should see dat glorious Highfleet gameplay IRL:

The Ukrainian media are shooting themselves in the head with shit like this, while informational war is the only battlefield they are winning.

Ukrainian TV host uses Adolf Eichmann quote to advocate genocide of Russians and killing their children

“I allow myself to quote Adolf Eichmann, who said that in order to destroy a nation, you must destroy, first of all, its children. Because if you kill their parents, the children will grow up and take revenge. By killing children – they will never grow up and the nation will disappear,” he said, while a photo of Eichmann appeared on the screen.
RT cover of this

and THERE it is - that glorious Balkans mentality that's now taken full hold there too. like, I get the guy is suffering and it's that suffering that's getting him to go apeshit like this, but in such a case never ever get in front of a recorder or a camera to blow off this kind of steam. reason being, there's a ton of people out there all too willing to indulge in this madness out in the field and all it took for them to decide to go over the edge was state-sanctioned media like this. and when enough of those recordings get out, you'll start to lose that propaganda war one way or another as even the western media won't be enough to cover it all up.

but hey - maybe you should make a Ukranian Alija Alijo like the Serbs did, which openly calls for genocide as a part of its lyrics - I'm sure there's no way that can backfire, since you're backed by the 'good guys' this time around, right? or why not setup an RTLM, like in Rwanda:

 

[White_N]

just need a few more decades without nukes going off, and we should see dat glorious Highfleet gameplay IRL:

When the Russians captured the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, I remembered about highfleet, and I began to expect nuclear cruisers to bomb the capital lol

 

[The Foldless Brain]

The Ukrainian media are shooting themselves in the head with shit like this, while informational war is the only battlefield they are winning.

Ukrainian TV host uses Adolf Eichmann quote to advocate genocide of Russians and killing their children

“I allow myself to quote Adolf Eichmann, who said that in order to destroy a nation, you must destroy, first of all, its children. Because if you kill their parents, the children will grow up and take revenge. By killing children – they will never grow up and the nation will disappear,” he said, while a photo of Eichmann appeared on the screen.
RT cover of this

It doesn't matter what any of the Ukrainian talking heads say. Zelensky could tell Congress tonight about how Hitler was too kind to the R*ssian subhuman and it'd either get no coverage or be in the next stunning and brave article about how this is true. The consoomer of current thing narratives lacks object and ideological permanency. He not only doesn't see any contradiction between current and previous beliefs, that such a contradiction would even matter is alien to him.

 

[Richardface]

 

[purpleflurp]

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Yeah, but think about how many skulls are being added to the skull throne!

 

[Ghost In The Rain]

Russia will probably end up beating Ukraine if NATO\EU doesn't get directly involved. But I don't see how Russia thinks it's going to pull itself out of this mess. If they beat Ukraine, I assume they will install a puppet government that recognizes Crimea and the Pro Russian regions as being sovereign Russian territory. But who in Ukraine is going to take that sitting down? Russia would have to continue their occupation of Ukraine for years making sure no one tries to over through their puppet and disarm the Ukrainian military with a new one. But I don't see even a single Ukrainian being supported of the puppet government and would just defect as soon as Russia leaves like what happened in Afghanistan. One top of all of that, the amount of shit their in with world leaves Russia in a particularly bad place with their economy and will only continue to get worse as no one would want to associate themselves with Russia for decades to come. What is even the win condition Putin has in his mind?

So the end of the scenario you presented is: Crimea and the pro-Russian areas are still their own republics and the scraps of Ukraine ISN'T a puppet and has the full authority to build up a military and start shelling the regions again if they really want to. What exactly do you expect to happen after that? Would the newly remade Ukrainian government decide "Alright, the puppet government is gone, time to go start shelling the Russians again?" I expect if that was their answer the Russian response would be to turn around, blow up any military they see and their government again, install a new puppet, and leave again. Then when that puppet government gets overthrown, do you expect Ukraine version 3 will try the same thing?

Once the pro-Russian regions are out of Ukraine, Russia doesn't need a to maintain a puppet government in the rest. Just a standard government that doesn't want to be beheaded is good enough.

 

[biozeminadae1]

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Isn't Russia one of their biggest markets, though? Really seems like they've shot themselves in the foot, considering Warhammer is all about... war.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

It doesn't matter what any of the Ukrainian talking heads say. Zelensky could tell Congress tonight about how Hitler was too kind to the R*ssian subhuman and it'd either get no coverage or be in the next stunning and brave article about how this is true. The consoomer of current thing narratives lacks object and ideological permanency. He not only doesn't see any contradiction between current and previous beliefs, that such a contradiction would even matter is alien to him.

right now, when everyone's in the anti-russia fervor, that's true. but if this war should drag on for months and the russians turn out NOT to just collapse due to all the sanctions, then people will get tired of it and it won't take much for them to abandon the pro-ukranian fervor with stuff like this floating around. add to that some race-baiting blacks with: "you only care cuz it's wypipo getting killed in this war." and before you know it people from abroad will move on from caring about this too, regardless of the outcome.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

It doesn't matter what any of the Ukrainian talking heads say. Zelensky could tell Congress tonight about how Hitler was too kind to the R*ssian subhuman and it'd either get no coverage or be in the next stunning and brave article about how this is true. The consoomer of current thing narratives lacks object and ideological permanency. He not only doesn't see any contradiction between current and previous beliefs, that such a contradiction would even matter is alien to him.

It's shit like this that kicked off the Rwandan Civil War. Something everyone knew was coming but the Clinton Administration just wrung its hands and said "Oh well, that's too bad." So you are correct.

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This is retarded, how does suspending sales help those suffering? Wouldn't it be better to donate the profits from the sales to the people who are, you know, suffering?