Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Zelensky is set to address the Israeli parliament on Sunday evening.

When you can't get help from your masters go and try to get help from your master's masters. Not sure what he expects from the average Israeli besides them going "huh, that sucks."

Disregard that, i suck cocks.

 

[EyeGuy]

Oh no the jew is gonna try to jew the jews.

You have no idea how bad the jewing is. Our Jew health minister is already demanding that the state provide Ukrainian refugees with private health insurance.

 

[Kenya Jones]

When you can't get help from your masters go and try to get help from your master's masters. Not sure what he expects from the average Israeli besides them going "huh, that sucks."

They're literally getting $800 million in military aid from the US.

 

[mindlessobserver]

I'm calling it. This invasion is fucked up from the floor up. It was launched under misguided assumptions. Three in fact.

Assumption 1: Ukraine would not fight. This was based on the prior experience of 2014, and failed to consider the 8 years of political development in Ukraine that followed that humiliation.

Assumption 2: Zelenskyy the Jew would run at the sound of gunfire. Nothing says you've won quite like the ostensible head of state fleeing before you with a suitcase full of cash on an American airplane. In fact the US was so eager for this happen they rolled out the red carpet for Zelenskys cushy exile. But the fucker didn't do it. Which meant all his regional officials and army commanders suddenly caught a severe case of resistance.

Assumption 3: the Ukrainian Army was not equal to the Russian Army. This one is the killer. Because I don't think anyone expected it. But they should have. Russia's military budget dwarfs Ukraines. But it's a budget spent maintaining prestige projects that are useless for this war. What use are strategic nuclear weapons for this war? None. What use is the Russian Atlantic Fleet for this war? None. What use is the Russian Pacific fleet for this war? None. Has Russia deployed any of its vaunted fifth generation tanks and aircraft in this war? No. They have not. What use are hypersonic cruise missiles? None.

By contrast for the last 8 years the Ukrainian Army has spent every dollar for one goal. Defeating the Russian western Army. The same Army that is now getting torn to pieces right now. Ukraine applied all it's defense spending and training for this war. Russia by contrast applied a fraction of its spending for this war. And now the chickens have come home to roost.

Ukraine may not just survive this, they may actually defeat the Russian Army strategically. The only way Putin avoids this outcome is general mobilization and total war.

 

[H. Bergeron]

Putin isn't a saint, but the biggest examples of him supposedly being a cruel conqueror are him taking territory that's either asking for him to help them or has already seceded and joined Russia. Those nations have a right to defend their sovereignty, yes, but when people are coming out and waving your nation's flag and giving your troops gifts as they invade, you really can't say it's a completely cut and dry issue. This happened in Chechnya, South Ossetia, Crimea, and Donbass. It's a sentiment that's been around since the USSR fell. Not everyone, especially in states besides Russia, wanted to be split off into their own groups, and a lot of people in a lot of those countries wanted to join back up with Russia itself. Not all of them want to sure, but enough that every place had its own separation movement, or in Chechnya's case, people begging Russia to drive out what was becoming an openly terroristic Islamic dictatorship.

Look, ethnic conflicts in any state are a mother fucker. I don't dispute that. But claiming that Crimea universally was waiting for Russia to come in and take them over is disingenuous. South Ossetia would be a better argument, as they have half of their state in actual Russian territory. The thing is though, Putin has, inarguably fanned these ethnic tensions, flat out funded civil wars in these regions, and then used the rightful response against that civil war to invade. It is what he did in Georgia when they got uppity, and once that happens, everyone suffers but him.

I said this earlier, and I will say it again, Just because you don't like the way something in your country went does not give you the right to fucking invade government buildings, start a war, and say "ALL YO SHIT IS MINE NOW!" when things do not go your way. Look at the polling we have in these areas Donbass did NOT want to be part of Russia in 2014, which was up until then the absolute low point of relations between east Ukraine and the rest of the nation. There were separatists there, for certain, but a lot of Ukranians too, million and change of whom have been deported for the crime of not being Russian. Mariupol almost fell at that time as well.

Always hear about the loss of life in Donbass, and that would have never been an issue for this long without Putin arming and also sending troops up from Crimea then strong arming a cease fire that he knew no side would be able to keep.

Any chance of solving the situation amicably, which Ukraine had done before in the aughts, was out the window once that started.

 

[Corpun]

I'm still seeing 4-5 ads a day selling Ukrainian merch based on stories that were proven false a week ago.

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Gotta get that grift money in somehow

Current situation in Mariupol

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The Ruskies are pushing really hard into Mariupol

Looks like a hopeless situation for the Ukrops, the Russians are trying to cut the city into pockets.

The Millenium Falcon won't come to save them.

Don't worry, the Ghost of Kiev and Snake Island defenders are going to lead a counterattack any day now

Talking about all the anti Putin propaganda and ending with Putin propaganda. after spewing Putin propaganda The lack of self awareness is incredible.

Putin a good boi, he dindonuffin.

And I even fucking agree with some of the shit he mentioned as propaganda. And just when Ted had me thinking MAAAAYBE I was a little to rough on this thread... this shit comes along.

Unironically claiming that the Skirpool poisoning never happened. (It did.)
Unironically claiming that a Malaysian Airlines flight that blew up never happened. (Not even that Ukraine shot it down, but that it didn't fucking happen.)
At least I can give you the mercenaries I suppose. Gotta be right sometimes.

Poor Russia, no country in history has had to deal with the constant false flags coming from all directions. Poor Putin, just trying to make his country better, and all these people he hates just keep getting assassinated. What's an ex KGB agent to do? What are the odds that every single evil act he is accused of was someone else trying to pin it on him? It is absurd.

You talk about Kenosha but you have your analogy wrong. See the NPCs believed that Rittenhouse was a murderer despite tons of video footage and massive amounts of evidence that he was not. Same with Jacob Blake. They liked the narrative that told them to believe what they were being peddled and not their own lying eyes.

Those uncritical assholes? That's you. Right now. You're just an NPC for a different country.

Point on the chart where Russians touched you.

 

[H. Bergeron]

This is such a shitty argument and I still do not know how people can do the mental gymnastics to get to this conclusion. I have asked this question before but the person I asked didn't answer so here I will ask you. If a large African American gentlemen kindly broke into your house and started banging your significant other, would you fight the brute or would you just give up and let him have his way?

Considering some the responses in this thread, They'd watch, jerk off, and then explain to the interwebs why the black bull was right to do so.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

i won't blame ukraines leader for russia massacring ukrainians in a war of russian aggression.

if he cucks out of the country then he's a cowardly traitor, yes. time will tell what happens.

I don't think the Russians are gonna go buckaroo banzai like the Japs did in the rape of Nanking.

But there's not really a nice way to conquer a city. Lot of innocent people will die if they start shelling Kiev. Which will definitely be Russia's fault, but at some point emulating Hitler's refusal to surrender, or the Japanese Imperial General HQ who wanted to fight on to the last Japanese child after Hiroshima and Nagasaki got stir fried becomes suicidal idiocy instead of courageous. It's noble for a captain to go down with his ship, but not if he forces the petty officers and the catering crew and random passengers to die too.

Every politician wants to be Winston Churchill in this situation, but Churchill had a 20 mile moat, a globe-spanning empire, the most powerful navy in the world, the best air force in the world, and an enormous, high tech, heavy industrial economy to back up his drunken boasts about never surrendering.

Idk, we won't know until the war ends but at the moment it looks like the resistance is just leading to a smaller, poorer, broker and much less populated Ukraine than they'd have gotten out of Russian demands before the war, and possibly no Ukraine as a viable political entity at all. Which absolutely fucking sucks, but the history of heroic last stands in that part of the world shouldn't inspire optimism. At least Stalin is still dead, he'd have greased the Red Army's tank tracks with Ukies and had a good laugh about it. Putin is merely a dime store Stalin operating on a lemonade stand budget.

 

[H. Bergeron]

Point on the chart where Russians touched you.

You jealous?

 

[Captain Autism69]

The only war the Ukrainians are winning is the 'feed cretins propoganda and have them buy it hook line and sinker' war, while their army and cities get torn to pieces by Russia's C-Team.
Yawn, a theatre was hit with 'thousands' of people in it; anyone seen any bodies yet? Ghost of Kiev, Snek Island, hiding in a hospital then crying when it get's bombed...
The Ukr's are the boy who cried wolf at this point.

 

[Sexual Chocolate]

Just because you don't like the way something in your country went does not give you the right to fucking invade government buildings, start a war, and say "ALL YO SHIT IS MINE NOW!" when things do not go your way.

Yes it does, faggot.

 

[DumbDude42]

Always hear about the loss of life in Donbass, and that would have never been an issue for this long without Putin arming and also sending troops up from Crimea then strong arming a cease fire that he knew no side would be able to keep.

yeah the whole "but ukraine shelled donbass! they are genociding russians there!" was always horseshit. ukraine wasn't doing jack fucking shit to donbass untill secessionists there got in bed with moscow, overthrew the local government and took power by force, went into open rebellion, declared themselves 'independent' states, and also laid claims to a lot more ukrainian territory than they actually controlled.

 

[LUNEKO]

Zelensky is set to address the Israeli parliament on Sunday evening.

I see Zelensky has decided he will not have the uppity attitude of the clerks and has demanded to speak with the NATO store manager

 

[hooboy]

Yes it does, faggot.

are you a black person

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

I think you're right
It was generally thought limited nuclear exchange would happen between India and Pakistan in the early 00's

I still think that will eventually happen. That or a 3 way India China Pakistan showdown with em.

 

[H. Bergeron]

personally i'm reserving judgement on zelensky until after the war
right now we don't have enough information, can't tell who is telling the truth, who is lying, what is really happening.
if he does indeed go down with the ship and chooses death before dishonor, he'll be one of the most respected national leader europe has seen since the second world war. if he somehow manages to pull through and ukraine survives the war, he'll be a legit hero and might be elevated to a modern 'father of the nature' figure like tudjman is in some circles in croatia.
but if he turns coward and flees the country, or cucks out in some other way, then not so much.

I dunno, I think he has enough good will built up that if this go REALLY south and he has to run, he can pull a Chang Kai Shek and still be considered a hero. It really depends on how he does it.

One question though, and this will go out to the people who probably hate my posts, I've honestly been repeating that Zel is super corrupt basically parroting the assumption that every leader in the taint of the world that is Eastern Europe is... but what specifically did he do that makes him so. I know about the Panama Papers house in Miami, which at 35 mill seems a lot, then again he is a former actor, though I doubt movies pay that much in Ukraine.

So anything else? I figure there has to be.

 

[grasshoppermustard]

Arnold is speaking up about the war, but his teacup story sounds like total bullshit, it wouldn't surprise me if he is a closet tranny at this point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-t4-AoXSl1A

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

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Sir, we post memes here, not legitimate NYT articles.

yeah the whole "but ukraine shelled donbass! they are genociding russians there!" was always horseshit. ukraine wasn't doing jack fucking shit to donbass untill secessionists there got in bed with moscow, overthrew the local government and took power by force, went into open rebellion, declared themselves 'independent' states, and also laid claims to a lot more ukrainian territory than they actually controlled.

Yeah but screeching Russians and separatist slavs will shout over you about it like this is a War Thunder or Telegram chat. Also, some of the separatists were killed by the Russian govt after they outlived their usefulness, if the separatist I knew who fought over there is to be trusted.

 

[Kenya Jones]

I don't think the Russians are gonna go buckaroo banzai like the Japs did in the rape of Nanking.

While I have no idea if there have been any rapes, there usually are during war, no matter who or where. And yes the Grozny-ing of a few cities shows that they do not care about civilians.

But there's not really a nice way to conquer a city. Lot of innocent people will die if they start shelling Kiev. Which will definitely be Russia's fault, but at some point emulating Hitler's refusal to surrender, or the Japanese Imperial General HQ who wanted to fight on to the last Japanese child after Hiroshima and Nagasaki got stir fried becomes suicidal idiocy instead of courageous. It's noble for a captain to go down with his ship, but not if he forces the petty officers and the catering crew and random passengers to die too.

But the wars in Europe and the Pacific were started by those two, this is two different types of wars. Hitler and Tojo started those wars, Zelensky didn't start this war.

Every politician wants to be Winston Churchill in this situation, but Churchill had a 20 mile moat, a globe-spanning empire, the most powerful navy in the world, the best air force in the world, and an enormous, high tech, heavy industrial economy to back up his drunken boasts about never surrendering.

Britain still got bombed to shit.

The only war the Ukrainians are winning is the 'feed cretins propoganda and have them buy it hook line and sinker' war, while their army and cities get torn to pieces by Russia's C-Team.
Yawn, a theatre was hit with 'thousands' of people in it; anyone seen any bodies yet? Ghost of Kiev, Snek Island, hiding in a hospital then crying when it get's bombed...
The Ukr's are the boy who cried wolf at this point.

Tell me where the Ukies touched you

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

They're literally getting $800 million in military aid from the US.

Speaking of, did they ever say what drones they were sending. I really want to know how survivable predators are.