Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

How well is the war this going for Russia?

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  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 796 33.7%
  • ⭐⭐ Stalemate

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We are seriously getting this close to pulling a World War 2 Internment Camp and putting all people of Russian blood into camps.
Yuri Gagarin has been dead for over 50 years in case you're wondering.
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It's pretty obvious that, unless the entire Russian armed forces is a scam like the Afghanistan Army was, they never intended to fight the war everybody else accuses them of wanting to fight. Might even be possible they're telling the truth about their war goals ('disarmament and denaziing' Ukraine, which implies some kind of negotiated settlement, not conquering the place with under 200,000 of their least impressive troops)

They went in very light and so far the worst war crimes the West can pin on them are the usual fuckups that happen in any war, shells going astray and enemy fighters mixing with civilians. There's been no attempt to flatten cities or destroy infrastructure, even tho they have strategic bombers and arty capable of doing that. Most of the heavy fighting seems to be local militia and Chechens. They've continued to talk to the Ukies, unconditional surrender isn't one of their demands.

They've definitely made a lot of dumb mistakes and it looks like corruption/neglect in their armed forces is a serious problem for them. And they probably also underestimated how much Ukies fucking hate them. But unless their secret plan was to annex the whole of Ukraine - which makes no sense, even by paranoid dictator standards - there's no plausible way they can lose militarily now. Unless Nato invades, or the Russian troops all steal Ukrainian ammo to shoot themselves with, or there's a coup in Moscow.

They can definitely lose economically, and the sanctions will hurt them bad. But they're also hurting Europe, and to a lesser extent the US. The global economy is incredibly fragile now, idk how many trillion dollar stimulus bills Congress can pull out of its ass before the dollar goes the way of every single debased currency in history. There's a cost of living crisis in the West that isn't magically going to go away. Europe can't get off Russian hydrocarbons overnight, that will take several years at best. Meantime, rampaging inflation and high fuel prices are hurting everybody except bankers and oil execs.

Seems shortsighted to write off the Pajeets and Chinks. They're the most populous countries in the world, rapidly developing, and hungry for cheap energy sources. As a gas station with its own government, Russia can do good business there. Pajeet and Chong are also smart enough to stay out of retarded European wars (may not be smart enough to stay out of retarded Asian wars tho, we'll see).

Picture, if you will, a situation so fucked up that everyone loses, except the assholes who caused the situation.
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It just seems like Putin was certain Zelenskyy would flee in panic, and Viktor Yanukovych would be placed in office. Whoever planned this was stricken with some confirmation bias virus. It seems a very dubious way to go about de-Nazifying or demilitarising. It was another Putin grab a bite war scaled up quite a bit. Whenever some face saving deal is concluded, the Ukrainians will likely arm themselves to the teeth. And no Western powers will stand in their way, and I honestly doubt Putin will go for a re-run. Russia might not have much after spending on their extraordinarily expensive nuclear forces. They are roughly the 4th largest defence spender and yet they cannot muster a single bit of that. The only striking thing they've managed are some effective missile strikes.

Perhaps they might get a better deal with the Chinese, but whatever they have, new export contracts won't really matter too much against present needs and what has been lost via sanctions. Speaking of the Chicoms, they probably note the rapid cancellation of Russia and will probably game the scenario to death if they really want to take Taiwan, and not endanger the exports they depend upon, or generally screw a world economy they themselves need.

The West is coming to grips now with raging inflation, something only recently found in places like Turkey where compromised central banks have to enact desperately unwise low interest policies, but the US will cope better at present than Russia can. The US is still a wealthy, populous resource rich land. Russia is not so wealthy, is very underpopulated, but is indeed mythically resource rich. The US is set on a terrible course, but Russia seems to have far greater problems at present.

PRC has made extraordinary progress, their high speed network shames the whole developed world, but it has demographic and debt issues that limit them. India has so much potential, but it remains a place that can outcompete anywhere in Africa for severe impoverishment and hunger. They are still in the take off stage, the early part of that stage.

Anyhow when two or more sets of the powerful square off, absent certain epoch making conflicts like the World Wars, both generally are the winner with their peoples as losers. That's normally how it is. Red October Revolution system shocks where an elite mainly perishes or flees to straitened exile are rare, or more recently Iraq in 2002 and after, are a very mixed blessing, or largely a bad thing.

We are seriously getting this close to pulling a World War 2 Internment Camp and putting all people of Russian blood into camps.
Yuri Gagarin has been dead for over 50 years in case you're wondering.
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That's sick and sad. That's surely in its way a common achievement of humanity.
 
We are seriously getting this close to pulling a World War 2 Internment Camp and putting all people of Russian blood into camps.
Yuri Gagarin has been dead for over 50 years in case you're wondering.
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For context, an annual space symposium named "Yuri's Night" was renamed "A Celebration of Space."
That's... literally it. Less than nothing. How will Russia ever recover from this?
 
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I am starting to think the Ukrainians are all just Tranny lovers. God knows they have enough of them E-begging on OnlyFans or worse, creating PornHub accounts.
Funny enough the training level in Call of Duty 2 involved shooting helmets off a wooden pole...
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We are seriously getting this close to pulling a World War 2 Internment Camp and putting all people of Russian blood into camps.
Yuri Gagarin has been dead for over 50 years in case you're wondering.
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>TFW you totally support Communism....but not those First In Space Commies!
 
Pretty sure he meant to China and India. There are already reports Russia is willing to sell resources and commodities to them at "discount prices", and with non-hard currency like Yuan and Rupees as well
They also increased their exports to Germany despite sanctions and the crumbling value of the ruble.
 
We are seriously getting this close to pulling a World War 2 Internment Camp and putting all people of Russian blood into camps.
Yuri Gagarin has been dead for over 50 years in case you're wondering.
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I dont think we're that close. Most of this stuff targeted towards Russian identity, not economy or government, is performative. It shows that the rich and "smart" are disconnected from reality and place value on dumb shit, not much else.

I'd also like to point out that despite what liberal faggots say they do believe in national and ethnic identity and the connection between us today and our ancestors.
 
Interesting video I watched pointed out one of the major issues with the Russian military. They spend a large amount of their military budget on "Wunderwaffe" projects. Shit like hypersonic missiles, the T-14, the SU-57 and SU-75, and their Satan-2 ICBM program. Instead of pouring their R&D budget into projects they can actually afford to put into service to replace their aging aircraft and tanks, they pour it into projects designed to spook the West, but at the end of day can't actually be fielded in strategically significant numbers. Sure the U.S. also pours a lot into stupid expensive projects, but they can actually afford to field those stupid expensive vehicles fully.
 
We are seriously getting this close to pulling a World War 2 Internment Camp and putting all people of Russian blood into camps.
Yuri Gagarin has been dead for over 50 years in case you're wondering.
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Why not just go all the way & have his name scrubbed from history books & just delete Russia off the world map & pretend there is no Russia?
 
For context, an annual space symposium named "Yuri's Night" was renamed "A Celebration of Space."
That's... literally it. Less than nothing. How will Russia ever recover from this?
It's more about how it does not bode well for our society that the television can tell us who to hate and we immediately and uncritically comply. These are events halfway around the world that would have no effect on our lives but for our reaction to them.
 
My general view here is that the Russian Federation can win this war, but they're going to have to flatten Ukraine to do it. I suspect that Vladimir Putin might be willing to do precisely that.
Chechnya mk II then. I don't know if they have the resources to secure it. It took them about a decade of occupation put down the insurgency there even after they flattened everything. Ukraine has a substantially more people than the Caucuses. Even if the flattening removed half the population you still have to deal with the remaining 20 million.

We have seen this type of "mission accomplished" thinking before.
 
I am starting to think the Ukrainians are all just Tranny lovers.
I get my estrogen from a granny tranny in Kiev :(
Interesting video I watched pointed out one of the major issues with the Russian military. They spend a large amount of their military budget on "Wunderwaffe" projects. Shit like hypersonic missiles, the T-14, the SU-57 and SU-75, and their Satan-2 ICBM program. Instead of pouring their R&D budget into projects they can actually afford to put into service to replace their aging aircraft and tanks, they pour it into projects designed to spook the West, but at the end of day can't actually be fielded in strategically significant numbers. Sure the U.S. also pours a lot into stupid expensive projects, but they can actually afford to field those stupid expensive vehicles fully.
It actually helps to put it in perspective. Let's take the Ka-52 for example. Just one costs about $29-32 million. An Igla costs about $60,000. That is a large disparity in cost but if an Igla kills a Ka-52 there is still a waste of $60,000. But if one Ka-52 crashes on its own (which has happened) the Russians lose a $29-32 million dollar helicopter for no cost to the Ukrainians. Now think the same for the tanks.
Chechnya mk II then. I don't know if they have the resources to secure it. It took them about a decade of occupation put down the insurgency there even after they flattened everything. Ukraine has a substantially more people than the Caucuses. Even if the flattening removed half the population you still have to deal with the remaining 20 million.

We have seen this type of "mission accomplished" thinking before.
Do not forget that, while the rebel groups have been gutted, there still is terrorist groups operating and causing problems.
 
It's more about how it does not bode well for our society that the television can tell us who to hate and we immediately and uncritically comply. These are events halfway around the world that would have no effect on our lives but for our reaction to them.
If mass media and Internet didn't exist most people would be saying wtf is a Ukarine and when the fuck did we get involved for it to be our problem?
 
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