Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Hogar Grupal]

Gender reassignment surgery (or whatever they call it) isn’t that common and Chris hasn’t seemed to want it, at least not immediately. Changing appearance and pronouns is usually all that happens.

Maybe if it meant he could be housed with women, he’d do it. But it’s a big thing to go through.


Helping him function is more important than taking away his cope. Especially if losing the cope would make him unable to function.

It seems as though, as usual, Chris wants it both ways: he wants to use his 'ugly growth' to impregnate a woman; that's always been Chris' M.O. If it makes it easier to be housed with other women, Chris should at the chance for it, but if it means losing his duck because he still wants to have Crystal, the n Chris being a woman was the biggest delusion he's ever had.

Isn't the coping getting in the way of his functioning though? Granted he knows he can't teleport from where he is to back at home, but you have to admit Heilberg's interactions with Chris is a clear indicator as to why he was transferred.

 

[Skitterways]

I'm so god damn curious about how he's taking this. 39 years worth of delusions just poof. Wish I knew more about how antipsychotics and other meds interact with delusional people. Will it really make someone go "I know it's not real now..." or does it make it harder for them to justify the delusions?

From what I have been told by patients:
Anti-psychotics lessen anxiety, paranoia, hearing and seeing things, and delusions. They don't totally make you normal, just better able to perceive reality.

I mean sending him to a hospital so he can cut off his ding dong. On one hand I don't see the state wanting to pay for it on the other hand I cant imagine the state being against Chris castrating himself.

I'm pretty sure the state of Virginia is against both options as one is self-harming behavior and the other is sexual reassignment surgery that involves a lot of complicated situations. Sexual reassignment surgery requires multiple psych evaluations, living as the other gender for a few years, and multiple surgeries. If Chris has Peyronie's disease (bent duck), this will complicate things. Sexual reassignment isn't just about changing your genitalia from male to female, but also the function of the urinary system afterwards. This aspect made me understand the whole 'chicks with dicks' mentality better.

 

[Happy Fish]

Gender reassignment surgery (or whatever they call it) isn’t that common and Chris hasn’t seemed to want it, at least not immediately. Changing appearance and pronouns is usually all that happens.

Maybe if it meant he could be housed with women, he’d do it. But it’s a big thing to go through.


Helping him function is more important than taking away his cope. Especially if losing the cope would make him unable to function.

To me I just see him doing it because playing up that he is a looney toon and a victim is all he has as a defense, except I'm in the camp that thinks he doesn't actually need to play it up. Will he? I don't know. But if he does he might have a shot at Elon Musk's ex.

 

[Ophelia]

It seems as though, as usual, Chris wants it both ways: he wants to use his 'ugly growth' to impregnate a woman; that's always been Chris' M.O.

It’s not that uncommon. Cutting off body parts isn’t a small thing and they have to jump through hoops to do it. We joke about trans folk just lopping things off willynilly and taking all kinds of drugs and it can be funny, but as usual reality is bland.

Isn't the coping getting in the way of his functioning though?

We don’t know. Is it? It’s helped him manage jail without a total freakout (that we know of). Lots of otherwise sane people find comfort from bad situations through imagination. If it is preventing him from doing whatever he needs to do to help with his defense, perhaps the doctors are trying to help him do both. Keep the cope, but not to the extent that it’s disruptive.

Spoiler: Since we were talking about Emperor Norton a few days ago

Granted he knows he can't teleport from where he is to back at home, but you have to admit Heilberg's interactions with Chris is a clear indicator as to why he was transferred.

What interactions? What do they indicate? A lot is speculation.

To me I just see him doing it because playing up that he is a looney toon and a victim is all he has as a defense, except I'm in the camp that thinks he doesn't actually need to play it up.

Ironically, doing that would make him less like the average trans person since they tend to keep their tackle. He’s going about things more or less the usual way right now.

But if he does he might have a shot at Elon Musk's ex.

Maybe he’d have to commit treason and/or become a political sperg first. Grimes is weird.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

What interactions? What do they indicate? A lot is speculation.

Obviously interactions between attorney/client. Yes, it's speculation, but again Heilberg has to know about the letters Chris is sending about him being JC.

If it is preventing him from doing whatever he needs to do to help with his defense, perhaps the doctors are trying to help him do both. Keep the cope, but not to the extent that it’s disruptive.

That's going to be a hell of a tall order.

 

[Ophelia]

Obviously interactions between attorney/client. Yes, it's speculation, but again Heilberg has to know about the letters Chris is sending about him being JC.

But lots of people claim to be Jesus. It’s not a big deal, unfortunately.

That's going to be a hell of a tall order.

“OK, Mrs. Jesus. Can you tell me where the judge sits? Very good. What about the prosecutor?” Someone shared what is probably expected of Chris (I should have bookmarked it), and he can do it while playing pretend if he can keep the cope down to a low simmer. With Getting Out Of The Madhouse as his motivation, let’s see what our cow can do.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

So is Barb writing letters to her rapist or lover, that is the question.

naw, the question is, "who was stealing the mail at 14BC, and pasting barbs signature from pics of her signed auctions on fake love letters?"

 

[Hogar Grupal]

But lots of people claim to be Jesus. It’s not a big deal, unfortunately.


“OK, Mrs. Jesus. Can you tell me where the judge sits? Very good. What about the prosecutor?” Someone shared what is probably expected of Chris (I should have bookmarked it), and he can do it while playing pretend if he can keep the cope down to a low simmer. With Getting Out Of The Madhouse as his motivation, let’s see what our cow can do.

Interesting. Let's see if Chris can handle things with out fucking it up in the courtroom (I think he can still fuck it up for himself). Even if it ensures his freedom, would the outcome of him going back home and stay with Barb be a possibility? I've seen conversations here that Chris staying at a group home/halfway house, etc is the end game cause no one, not the prosecution, the judge and even Chris' defense can trust him to go back. Handling his coping to be competent is one thing, but we all know how Chris thinks, and the possibility for him doing the same thing to Barb is highly probable.

 

[idosometimes]

Chris is unlikely to care for his nethers and this makes front hole surgery unlikely.

Barb may or may not have been in contact with him. Some of that information could have filtered through the police or his attorney, especially collection of property and car accident.

That's so strange I was picturing a dungeon-like place where he was chained to the wall and fed gruel by a hunchback while well-fed rats scurried about.

That was 14bc.

 

[Ophelia]

Interesting. Let's see if Chris can handle things with out fucking it up in the courtroom (I think he can still fuck it up for himself). Even if it ensures his freedom, would the outcome of him going back home and stay with Barb be a possibility? I've seen conversations here that Chris staying at a group home/halfway house, etc is the end game cause no one, not the prosecution, the judge and even Chris' defense can trust him to go back. Handling his coping to be competent is one thing, but we all know how Chris thinks, and the possibility for him doing the same thing to Barb is highly probable.

Chris might be the only person in the world who thinks he should go back to 14blc. It seems like Barb’s sister has cut off the contact between them. If she can do that, she can also keep him away physically. Because she’s probably thinking like we do: Chris doesn’t think he did anything wrong and he would definitely do it again. He still thinks we can be convinced he thought he was healing her, based on the letters. He’s not shown any remorse, let alone intention of stopping (that we’ve seen). He’s only sorry he got caught.

Meanwhile, Legal Kiwis think that Green County wants Chris gone. Sending him to a tard home would be the best thing for pretty much everyone, including Chris (and he would hate it).

 

[Happy Fish]

Ironically, doing that would make him less like the average trans person since they tend to keep their tackle. He’s going about things more or less the usual way right now.

Because its fake bullshit made up by crazy people and perverts, and the best thing Chris can do is prove he is more the first than the second.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

Obviously interactions between attorney/client. Yes, it's speculation, but again Heilberg has to know about the letters Chris is sending about him being JC.


That's going to be a hell of a tall order.

I still think the main cause of all this was a Defcon 1 level tard out by Chris. The corresponding dates of his hearing, with letters right before stating that he was getting out and would be back home, then that not happening. Chris has thrown tantrums before, but now he's had months to further reinforce that he's the special boy, and nothing bad ever happens to him.

From what I have been told by patients:
Anti-psychotics lessen anxiety, paranoia, hearing and seeing things, and delusions. They don't totally make you normal, just better able to perceive reality.

I remember reading that Chris was on anti-depressants for awhile, and I want to see if I can dig up any info on for how long and when. It would be interesting to see if his behavior changed while he was on them.

 

[Turbocuck]

Here's a thought: are the staff going along with the transgender thing? Obviously from an administrative perspective no, he'll be in with other males etc, but are the medical staff he interacts with on a daily basis calling him female pronouns? On one hand, Virginia is a red state, but on the other hand, they're medical personnel and the medical industry has been pretty thoroughly captured by troon activists.

How fucked would it be to be his psychiatrist and play along with one delusion while trying to help him get past the other delusions?

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Wish I knew more about how antipsychotics and other meds interact with delusional people. Will it really make someone go "I know it's not real now..." or does it make it harder for them to justify the delusions?

I knew that Barb cut contact after being taken in by relatives and Chris panicked, but the issue is why was she in contact with Chris in the first place? It makes it look like she was in on the whole thing and not upset at Chris.

That's a good question. If I had to assume anything, it could leave Chris as a shell of his former self. Which it's better for him as he'd be safe from other as well as himself.

From what I have been told by patients:
Anti-psychotics lessen anxiety, paranoia, hearing and seeing things, and delusions. They don't totally make you normal, just better able to perceive reality.

I just looked it up, Apparently the older ones that where in use till the early 90's basically just turned off parts of the brain or made them less effective so where essentially giving you a Chemical lobbotomy, the new ones are much better they don't work in the same way so they are still present but "Blunts" them so the more rational parts of the brain are able to compensate.

How do antipsychotics work?​

Antipsychotic drugs don't cure psychosis but they can help to reduce and control many psychotic symptoms, including:

• delusions and hallucinations, such as paranoia and hearing voices
• anxiety and serious agitation, for example from feeling threatened
• incoherent speech and muddled thinking
• confusion
• violent or disruptive behaviour
• mania.

Antipsychotics might not get rid of these symptoms completely. They may just stop you feeling so bothered by them. This is to help you feel more stable, so you can lead your life the way you want to. Taking antipsychotics can also reduce the risk of these symptoms returning in future (relapse).
You may find that some types of antipsychotic work better than others for your symptoms. Or you may find that antipsychotics aren’t right for you. See our page on how antipsychotics can help to find out more.

Source.

Here is more descriptions from a patients POV about what to expect https://www.mind.org.uk/information...s/antipsychotics/how-antipsychotics-can-help/

The relationship they have is unbelievably unhealthy and codependent to whatever extent. I'd imagine it's simple as being unable to go without one another for an extended period of time until an outside force convinces one of them (slowly) to let go for their own well-being– You see this shit all the time in unhealthy relationships, including obviously abusive/dangerous ones. As much as I don't like Barb I do think that is the ideal scenario for all parties involved, if the relatives managed to do it successfully.

Even while Bob was alive Chris was the only person Barb really sociable with and the one Chris always ran to when he wanted immediate asspats, etc and she after Bob's passing treated Chris more and more like a partner than a Child.

She was probably writing him out of habbit and wanting some form of company with the only person she's known for a long time.

 

[Ophelia]

Here's a thought: are the staff going along with the transgender thing? Obviously from an administrative perspective no, he'll be in with other males etc, but are the medical staff he interacts with on a daily basis calling him female pronouns? On one hand, Virginia is a red state, but on the other hand, they're medical personnel and the medical industry has been pretty thoroughly captured by troon activists.

How fucked would it be to be his psychiatrist and play along with one delusion while trying to help him get past the other delusions?

Anyone taking care of him knows how to handle it better than we do. Lots of psychiatrists (maybe most of them) don’t consider it a delusion anyway.

 

[BigTubboWithLittleChina]

I could absolutely see him trying to tie sheets together to abscond out the window

That fat fuck? If he somehow overcame his default mode of shitting himself and doing nothing to actually knot any blankets together, his lardy arse would tear the knots to shreds and send him plummeting to his doom on the rocks below.

 

[Skitterways]

I just looked it up, Apparently the older ones that where in use till the early 90's basically just turned off parts of the brain or made them less effective so where essentially giving you a Chemical lobotomy, the new ones are much better they don't work in the same way so they are still present but "Blunts" them so the more rational parts of the brain are able to compensate.

A chemical lobotomy. I like that description. That's why when someone is flipping out, they will give them a one time shot of Haldol or Thorazine. Those old time anti-psychotics will calm your crazy right now. They just avoid using them regularly because of the long term side effects like tardive dyskinesia.

Spoiler: A Jacked Up Thought

Gynecomastia is a common side effect of Risperdal and it is often used to treat angry/violent autistics. I can see Chris Chan gobbling that stuff down if he learns about that side effect.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Chris is unlikely to care for his nethers and this makes front hole surgery unlikely.

That doesn't make it unlikely at all. There's a whole thread here proving the opposite in fact.
The primary obstacle is that nobody's going to give him the surgery for free.

 

[Blue Miaplacidus]

How would Chris react when he learns that he lost everything that he had ever cared about?

He would react by larping as jesus and everything is fine in toonland where Real Chris™ is living his True and Honest life while Chris Prime scribbles "Pls send me home with my toys" prayers on fanta wrappers to mail to weens from jail.

 

[Eydallur]

I'm so god damn curious about how he's taking this. 39 years worth of delusions just poof. Wish I knew more about how antipsychotics and other meds interact with delusional people. Will it really make someone go "I know it's not real now..." or does it make it harder for them to justify the delusions?

I'm not convinced Chris is delusional (in the technical sense, that would make him schizophrenic). He's a person of extraordinarily low aptitude with childish fantasies but his desire to constantly engage in escapism strikes me as less a result of a sickly mind being fed too much children's entertainment and more of a natural response of an incredibly lonely, depressed idiot who can't engage with the real world.