Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Him settling the lawsuit has always been a whatever for me, but I guess I always had a more realistic expectation for it from the start.

I'm far more miffed about how he has handled business. At this point I'm 99% sure I wouldn't back a JB4. It'd have to really *really* impress me at this point, and while I've liked JB and considered it dumb fun I've never exactly been impressed by it anyways so that's a huge bar for him to hurdle now.
 
When Zack got off Twatter it was a sign he wasn’t made for the culture wars.
Now if only he would stop taking twitter screenshots and making community posts or videos about them. He didn't really leave twitter, he just closed himself into an echo chamber on Youtube to complain about things on Twitter without any way for him to get backlash.
 
Not to justify Meyer at all, but hasn't Waid completely dialed down his "strong protect the weak" bullshit attitude after he was hit with the lawsuit, and hasn't postured much ever since?
Well, it's presumed he CAN'T posture against YBZ anymore because the terms of the settlement likely prohibits it. Same for YBZ posturing against Waid.

As for other people, maybe it spooked Waid. Maybe it didn't. I doubt very much it's gonna have far reaching consequences on cancel-culture though. Both in general, and against CG. There's plenty of other SJW faggots where Waid came from.

The issue is there were absolutely no consequences levied against Waid for interfering in the AP deal. Unless you wanna count the money Waid had to sink into his defense. Also, generally speaking, an attacker (plaintiff) has to win, while the defender (defendant) only has to not lose. On that basis, I (reluctantly, mind you) conclude that Waid won.

When Zack got off Twatter it was a sign he wasn’t made for the culture wars.
Well, to hear @FROG tell it, it's not supposed to be about the culture wars. It's supposed to be about making comics free from the shackles of the SJW controlled mainstream comics industry.

Actually, I support YBZ on deleting his twitter. I've seen it end up being a gigantic time sink for creators that ends up killing their creativity. It's not CG example, but if you check out the Spoony thread it's been widely hypothesized that what hurt Spoony more than anything was him discovering Twitter and politisperging on it way too much.

If you ask me, everybody in CG should delete their Twitters. Or, at least, only use it for shilling their products and not engaging in slapfights. It might actually help them get their books out faster.

The issue with YBZ is that, Twitter or no, he's probably so ADHD that he'll easily get distracted with other things.
 
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Meanwhile, YBZs war tourist videos have a lot of YBZ 2017 Comics videos:
He gets angry, he spergs, his sperging is about thing ultranormies would agree with, makes a couple of good jokes in there and goes against the narrative.

It is quite obvious that he has lost a lot of his passion about comics this is why his videos are going downhill and he could easily change his channel to "Comics may matter but who cares with Yah Boi Zak" and just ramble about whatever.
 
Richard should just start a blog or a separate channel where he gives his hot takes on politics, he shouldn't be fucking around with anymore Theosophy nonsense. If he had any business sense he would deliver at least one Jawbreakers book every year and make a healthy 6 figure sum, and then it gives him more breathing room to do his small art-house type comics nobody cares about.
 
Richard should just start a blog or a separate channel where he gives his hot takes on politics, he shouldn't be fucking around with anymore Theosophy nonsense. If he had any business sense he would deliver at least one Jawbreakers book every year and make a healthy 6 figure sum, and then it gives him more breathing room to do his small art-house type comics nobody cares about.
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Should I do it?
We can't make that decision for you man. You gotta decide for yourself what's more important: spiting us (admittedly very important) or Meyer pumping out more Perch video reactions because he's concluded that's what's moving books on his channel. And while I do feel thoroughly spited right now I admit, at least this way Richard C. Meyer is now locked into an extremely underperforming campaign as opposed to Impossible Stars, where he was forced to cancel a different lacklustre floppy campaigned due to low funds and offer something of (arguable) higher backer value with a 100 page comic which then raised $100K.



Comicsgate was quiet for the past couple of days since the JACK show uprising was suppressed with a single tweet, but thankfully Liam showed up with some choice content.


2022/03/19 - [CONQUEST COMICS] - FACTIONS THIS IS INDICTIVE (sic) OF A LARGER PROBLEM


Word has been sent back to Liam from a fan (or more likely concern troll) that Anna has gone on the record on Malin's JDA/Liam efap that she dislikes Liam, the reason being his continual platforming of Warcampaign after they rebelled over her shitty Vampirella cover. Liam expresses a dejected perplexion over this, sending the orange comic creator on a a trip down memory lane to where it all began two years ago, on Live with Liam. Liam, who memorably disavowed Comicsgate when it was decided that Nasser Rabadi was allowed back in, says that he would never be forced by Anna or anyone else 'to go to war' or take sides. And besides, Warcampaign wasn't all that bad Liam argues, stating "most of the people doing this fucking heinous shit in the first place was the Etsies". This is followed by a calumny against the deceased Testefy-HD, as Liam's channel was the only platform that would have him on in Comicsgate in the immediate aftermath of his trolling over Anna's deceased sister, until Liam threw him off for unrelated reasons (larping as a gay Nazi on Liam's channel for several weeks). The point being, Warcampaign (who have always stood up for Liam) has been unfairly associated with these antics by people like Anna, and so has Liam. Liam vows he will never give in to terrorist intimidation.

Liam uses this to build to the crux of his argument; that he wanted unity not division, and that the divide between Comicsgate and the mainstream is in reality futile towards the goal of reform within the (western American) comics medium. That these two factions are just two sides of the same shit coin with him taking the position of an Sargon-style enlightened centrist, but tihis is sidetracked by unsatisfied Xenotype customer Urthmind in the chat who writes. "Liam you self destructed. Not canceled." Liam bans Urthmind immediately and says that what he calls "self-destruction" is really Liam using explosions to propel himself away from the burning trash ship that is Comicsgate. In reply, "Sketch the Rapey" comments in the chat "seems to work for people who aren't crazy" and asks if Liam has skipped his lithum today. After furiously banning the 'Sketch alt', Liam rails that truth doesn't matter to these people, it's all about spin and narrative with this filthy cult mob that ultimately doesn't believe in anything, so he's not going to give them anything regarding this alleged gayop trying to paint him as sexually harassing Sheila Aliens.

Liam next recommends the Ben Reilly Spider-Man run out now in comic book shops; it's really good in his estimation but nobody watching cares about good comics. Good comics take a backseat to spiting a publisher collectively because their fee-fees being hurt because an unrelated creator blocked them five years ago. Big deal says Liam, who will block anyone as this stream has amply shown. And you know else who gets a bum rap? Mark Brooks. And you know who might be getting a deal with Image? Liam. That blacklist against conservatives from being published in comics? Just a story. Why aren't there any public conservatives in the comic industry then if there's no blacklist then? According to Liam it's because "conservatism is a dying ideology" and that all the top earners for the company just happen to be radical liberal ideologues. One wonders who's been filling Liam's head with all these uncharacteristic ideas.

Liam rails on for a while against cult thinking when people should be thinking about upward mobility, being held accountable for the sins of Comicsgate and how Mark Brooks was there to acknowledge him when no one else would. That the days of Liam doling out mercy over, so on, routine Liam stuff before tuckering himself out by around the 40 minute mark and fielding questions from the chat. He also weighs in on Cecil's latest move:

What's happening? They're bringing them back, they bringing back in the people that are going to attack and destroy people. They're going to come after you, the little fucking guys. The little guys. They don't, you think it's the big ones they're gonna hurt? Never was. Remember when we used to make 30 to $40,000 on a campaign, wasn't that a fun time? That was the small guys by the way. So, so they're gonna bring in those guys. They're going to weaponize them because they got no moral compunction, they got no moral issues, right? They're going to send them after you guys. To fuck with you, to fuck the campaign, to create things for them to talk about, to turn you into content. They're going to monetize you from within. Right? Just like they've done before, the same old game, you think it's going to change? It's never going to change. You know what's going to change? The targets are going to change.

And if I wore a red mask and was speaking my mind boldly and believed in what I said, I'd be real scared right about now. Because that motherfucker, I shielded for him once and took a huge blow over the Dynamite thing, I aint doing that no more. I aint around. So that guy, he made a big mistake. He went and spoke his fucking heart and his mind and believed in something, and stood up for his friends. Nah. And people were, agreed with him in the chat? That was the one mistake you, the one mistake you should never have made. That was the Liam mistake. You're fucked man. Like, they're coming for you. They're coming for you. And I don't want that to happen but fucking, I've seen this now. Mark my words, the prophecy is in place. This isn't about fucking what everyone says it is, it's about a game.

RagingGoldenEagle steps in to advocate for the Comicsgate position, asking "Why would I give more chances to people who clearly made he clearly hate me when there are plenty of good of stuff out there from people who don't hate me?" Liam backpedals, not wanting to ban RGE and segues into a welltrod bit of rhetoric rant against how Joe Quesada screwed "Stravinsky" (Straczynski) on the handling of Spider-Man 20 years ago and how, while he disagrees with the "pedo shit" Rob Liefeld wrote into Savage Dragon (actually created by Image Comics COO Erik Larsen), Liefeld, says Liam, is considered a master of the medium (lmao) and people should read what he has to say regarding the industry. Liam may want to brush up on his Image Comics lore and maybe curb the Image COO = pedophile talk before he starts working there. Just a thought.

Liam eventually expounds on the Image deal - he pays them $3200 and they handle everything else, which leads into the orange tyrant to lay out his new philosophy on how to save the comic industry: by joining it and outcompeting the SJWs. People who tell you otherwise aren't interested in winning, only complaining. Would Vinnie Tartamella or Art Thibert or himself write a superman assrape story, Liam asks.

Liam laments how even a "white hat bitch like Micah Curtis" was run off of youtube by the mob, with people in the chat commenting that his former wrangler has sent word that" he's better off now having walked away". Fact: Micah (unlike Liam) has not walked away from CG and is still posting dumb shit like this on twitter as well as humbly exchanging pleasantries with new Comicsgaters like Shelley Lopresti who don't remember him. No one cares though, which may be for the best.

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"Toxic Manbaby" (artist for RGE's Blade Devil) finds all this praise for Mark Brooks questionable. As he recalls, Mark Brooks took a dozen mainstream comic professionals to dogpile him (for calling Brooks and his mainstream ilk corrupt losers on their way out). Liam says to leave it to him, he'll... deal with the situation and then when it's all said and done, hopefully Brooks and Toxic Manbaby won't be fighting anymore. Clearly Liam feels confident about his newfound connections. From the chat, Marsupial Gamer asks why anyone would give Liam's prognosis to save the comic industry any weight. Liam in rebuttal hits the ban button and offers $1000 for anyone who can provide Liam with Marsupial Gamer's dox.

It's at this point where viewers from Wiggle's emergency streamsnipe of Liam start to trickle in and Liam quickly turns the milk spigot off, going on for the next hour about his plans for Xenotype 2, how the mainstream comics can be fixed by non-SJWs getting jobs at Marvel and DC and outcompeting the entrenched SJWs and replacing them somehow and banning a lot of mild trolls before the stream winds to a close.

tl;dr
  • Alcoholic, bored X-Men cover artist Mark Brooks may be Liam's new wrangler with the departure of Micah Curtis.
  • Liam complains about Anna unfairly smearing him and Warcampaign by associating them with the guy he platformed on his show for several weeks.
  • Liam still disavows Comicsgate for even tolerating the presence of Nasser.
  • Liam says he will be getting published through Image Comics
  • Liam also called Erik Larsen, COO of Image Comics,'s comic 'pedophilic' in the same stream so we'll see how that goes.
  • Liam now thinks he's an industry insider able to smooth over fights between the mainstream and people he likes in CG thanks to his newfound connections.
 
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Has Liam seen this yet? I can see Liam using this as proof that Nasser is behind all the strangers that show up to Liam's house to fight him. Or some other crazy story Liam whips up in his crazy head. Also, if Liam spent more time on his actual comic stories and not making up stories on the Internet about people IRL, he may have made more money by now.
 
It honestly baffles me where Zack has gone. I never would have thought this would happen in 2017/2018.

It baffles me even more that he still has a cult of followers. I just don't get how anyone could trust him after all the bullshit he has pulled the last two years. EVS might take forever on a comic, but at least he doesn't produce 3 other pieces of shit before getting it to you. Or is this a new cult that is only in it for his topical bullshit?

It's not that I just don't trust the guy, it's not that I just don't like this rushed topical bullshit. I actually feel *stupid* for ever supporting him at this point. And I have to think most people are in a similar boat.

It's allot like Gamergate I guess.

You have people who are low effort dunk cows, a legitimate grievance, and it's amazing how far you can go.

What really bugs me about CG is they try to reframe people pointing out hypocrisy or grifting as people having unfair expectations. I had zero expectations of Richard C Meyer except that he actually believed in the things he said and did.
 
It's allot like Gamergate I guess.

You have people who are low effort dunk cows, a legitimate grievance, and it's amazing how far you can go.

What really bugs me about CG is they try to reframe people pointing out hypocrisy or grifting as people having unfair expectations. I had zero expectations of Richard C Meyer except that he actually believed in the things he said and did.
Once upon a time I think Zak did believe the things he said. but he let his desire to be loved by his heroes in mainstream comics biz take him off the path. When he began realizing he was forever their Hitler, his love of the medium began the decline. He's now at the bargaining stage of grief where he's shilling Children of the Atom level art as a good thing and Donnie Cates level writing as something akin to Chris Claremont.
 
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Has Liam seen this yet? I can see Liam using this as proof that Nasser is behind all the strangers that show up to Liam's house to fight him. Or some other crazy story Liam whips up in his crazy head. Also, if Liam spent more time on his actual comic stories and not making up stories on the Internet about people IRL, he may have made more money by now.
No clue.
 
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So as some of you have termed him, Just Some Pedo got into a little spat while talking about the gay bill shit in Florida. The spat is with the CG OG alcoholic Ceil. Ceil finally,in my opinion, said something funny for the first time in a while.
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So as some of you have termed him, Just Some Pedo got into a little spat while talking about the gay bill shit in Florida. The spat is with the CG OG alcoholic Ceil. Ceil finally,in my opinion, said something funny for the first time in a while.
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Cecil fucking nuked him from orbit and deservedly so. It was a long time coming. JSG has been a total fucking tool about this topic. He's honestly being a lying fucking asshole.
 
So as some of you have termed him, Just Some Pedo got into a little spat while talking about the gay bill shit in Florida. The spat is with the CG OG alcoholic Ceil. Ceil finally,in my opinion, said something funny for the first time in a while.
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Damn, Just Some Guy just doesn’t know when not to comment on something. This is like the third time JSG has looked suspect defending some pedo shit. Cecil owned him pretty good there.
 
@Mister Dongs says:

  • Liam still disavows Comicsgate for even tolerating the presence of Nasser.

He still wants to die on that hill, eh?

If you ask me, @NasserRabadi13 is probably one of the least controversial persons in CG. The Quaff would be on that list too.

Why is Liam so threatened by Nasser, of all people?
 
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