Russian Invasion of Ukraine Megathread

[Kenya Jones]

ok thats cool and all but it doesnt fix the problem that azovs ate my homework.

the Confederates would sue Novorossiya for copyright infringement, but idk how international lawsuits get filed over there

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

Since Mariupol deadline has ended and we haven't gotten stuff from it yet I'll put my predictions of the two somewhat likely results of this war and how this thread will react to them.
A.) Total Russian Victory. Ending we all expected would take only a week when the tanks first burst through the border gates. Some will declare this the death of Globohomo, others will be disappointed with this, though expected, result, some will for some fucking reason be shocked that the side with the upperhand won.
B.) Compromised peace. Some will declare that it was totally Putin's plan to take a couple regions in southern and eastern Ukraine, that he totally wanted the midget kike to stay in power and keep Kiev the capital of Ukraine, others will laugh that Russia could have easily had a total victory if they didn't expect to take a massive country with less than 200,000 troops, some will take this as a total Ukraine victory even though they lost land and has had untold amounts of damage done to it's cities.

In scenario A, I will be... disappointed. I take a mulligan on the political scale on the grounds that everybody involved in this shitshow for the last 8+ years played it poorly, so my process in choosing a side was based solely on the principle of "hippity, hoppity, get off my property". I've certainly been one of the most "Ukraine can totally win this" voices of late, but I stand prepared to be wrong if Russia somehow manages to get their shit together.

For scenario B, that's more or less what I've been advocating for since the end of the first week. Ukraine might be able to fight Russia to a standstill, but they lack the heavy equipment needed to actually push them back out. It'll be sad in the way that all wars are, but at least Ukraine will still exist as a nation, and I'll get to spend the next decade watching vatni/k/s cope, seethe, and dilate about how Russia would have totally mopped the floor with them if only Putin had sent in the T-14s.

 

[Kenya Jones]

Considering the usual Russian shenanigans, claiming the enemy will do something that they definitely will do, I'm guessing this is more of their work than the Ukrainian

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If the leak really is intentional and not accidental leakage

Didn't they literally do that in Syria?

 

[Fougaro]

(...) Russia is like the Confederacy?

The Red Army Choir did at one point sing "Sweet Home Alabama" with the Leningrad Cowboys.

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

The Red Army Choir did at one point sing "Sweet Home Alabama" with the Leningrad Cowboys.

Wtf is up with their hair? You oldfags can no longer complain about zoomer hairstyles.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

How would that work? Turn Istanbul into Tsargrad?

Yes.

 

[A_Callow_Youth]

The Red Army Choir did at one point sing "Sweet Home Alabama" with the Leningrad Cowboys.

Man, Glasnost was great, why couldn't we get the timeline where we were still doing shit like this?

 

[SneedEyeMitch]

Didn't they literally do that in Syria?

Are you referring to the gas attack? No, that was the US backed "rebels".

 

[Narcotics]

It's like clockwork: anything at all explodes, and the thread goes into a buzz about how Ukraine must be false flagging, Do we even have any proof that the Russians are invading at all? What if this whole "war" is just a grift to get more money out of Dementia Joe?

Well there's a growing posibility that, as the war drags on, both sides will get more desperate and attempt more risky moves. And the posibility of both sides trying to pull a falseflag and blaming eachother using an "accidental" chemical leak or making a chemical attack increases ever so slightly with each day.

 

[Fougaro]

Man, Glasnost was great, why couldn't we get the timeline where we were still doing shit like this?

Who says we didn't?

 

[Certified_Autist]

Has anyone else had the revelation when talking to normies about the war and they bring up WWII. That they don't seem to realise that involved a European country invading Russia? Sure they probably know it, but whatever way that conflict is structured in their head. They seemingly don't recognise that aspect.

WW2 is irrelevant to modern normies. 99% of the people that fought in it or were old enough to fully remember it when it happened are dead.

The only element of WW2 that is still discussed in mainstream discourse is "Nazis evil cause muh 6 gorillion". Battles? Tactics? Grand strategy? Deeper geopolitical motives of each side? Normies don't recognize any of that because its no longer explained outside of niche historical discussions.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

Haven't they wanted a warm water port outside the control of turkey?

Getting more warm water ports is always a priority for whoever is in charge of Russia, regardless of ideology.

 

[Jump]

WE DID IT REDDIT!


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[Kendall Motor Oil]

Yes.

But in all seriousness the Montreux Convention is a large thorn in Russia's naval side.

 

[Spicey McHaggis]

WE DID IT REDDIT!

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Holy fuck why are people surprised when the Russians pull this? They were using cell stuff to track targets for strikes back in 2014. This is not a new or hidden capability.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

WE DID IT REDDIT!

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OI! DEY DIDNA HAF A LOICENSE FOR DEM PHONES!

reposting because this time it is literally a dozen britbong Mr. Beans fucking it up for everyone else:

 

[Rezza]

Didn't they literally do that in Syria?

They did, I think

 

[Kenya Jones]

WE DID IT REDDIT!

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That's Russian-controlled Kherson Airbase, which was recently hit by Ukrainians, taking out a few helicopters.

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[Tactical Wizard]

Poisoning your own people with mustard gas to own Russia, how typically Ukrainian.

Yes. I think the MoD post (in English) is shown here, for reference:

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I don't know if it is a false flag so much as panicky retards letting their imagination run wild. The area does a lot of agriculture. Anhydrous ammonia is a common fertilizer. Wouldn't be shocking if storage tanks were damaged and leaked during a war.

To put this in motherfucking perspective, not even the Yugoslav Wars involved gassing your own civilians for goodboy points from the international community. Genocide, ethnic cleansing, indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets, yes. Killing your own people for the political equivalent of reddit karma, no.

False flag arc here we go!

Let's be real here: This is Ruskie 101 and wishful thinking on your part. There was no mined facility, just the claim by the Russians that it totally happened and you gotta believe us, bro. Just like the claim that the Ukraine was stuffed full of nazis as their Causus Belli. Foreign made weapons are killing their soldiers and destroying their equipment and they want it to stop so they need to turn international opinion against the Ukrainians. Fortunately, this is Russia we're talking about and the rest of Europe is tired of them rushing troops to the border every time their president throws a temper tantrum and just picks a made up reason out of a hat and this isn't the first time that he's done this. The second Chechnyan War and South Ossetia come to mind.

Zalensky does not care what happens to the Ukrainian people as long as their deaths looks good on western TV.

This is cope. Dude's been doing nothing but screaming for cash and guns for weeks because he's the president of the poorest country in Europe. It's exactly what the Finnish did during the winter war. I will at least give him that.

 

[Fake News Anchor]

The Kievan Rus' was very important for the political, cultural, and economic history of eastern Europe. It's also important for how those Varangians wound up in Constantinople.

Okay, but the Kievan Rus wasn't the start of Ukraine, it was the start of Russia. The lands now known as Ukraine weren't conceptualized as its own nation until at earliest the 1800's, and that's being generous. Kiev existed under the rule of countless states before being lumped together with the rest of 'Ukraine', almost all of whom had some political and cultural justification for ruling it, especially those powers native to eastern Europe.

'Kyiv didn't exist until recently' is accurate in that the modern conception of Ukraine as a succinct nation state with a clear identity and presence is new, throughout nearly the entirety of the existence of Kiev it would have been know not by what some local would have called it, but by what its name according to its ruling power would have been. French and English statesmen wouldn't have thought of 'Ukraine' during the Crimean War as anything other than a region within Russia, similarly they would not have thought of Ukrainian or Ukrainian versions of city names as anything other than subgroups of Russian linguistics.

As retarded as that sheboon usually is, Candace Owens is actually right so far as it matters that 'Kyiv' has only existed since the end of the Cold War. Man, she's so smart, no wonder Saint Tarrant was inspired by her.