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Johnny, Jan 6th was a fed operation and the Congresscritters were warned and told to put on a show for the photographers. That was a false flag event designed to make future jackboot actions tolerable. "We had to do it because they were plotting to overthrow the government, just like Jan 6th!"

The rest is a combination of enriching themselves, intentionally destroying Middle America's wealth, and actual fuckups because they're not that competent. But the fuckups are the least of it. Shutting down the pipeline wasn't some dumb mistake made because nobody knew what they were doing. It was done on purpose to make it impossible for Americans to drive anywhere, which shuts down our ability to organize against the government.
Every good lie has a grain of truth; even if that day glowed brighter than the sun the sentiments behind it were and are still simmering in that pressure cooker. How long will they pretend it's not there while they keep cranking up the heat?
Shit, I'm just some schmuck who is watching this the same as you are.

I never thought Joe would make a full term but they had to get Trump out and he was their best shot. With this and the NY Times admitting Hunter's scandals... maybe we're watching the establishment slide the knife between Biden's ribs. Granted, they're left with Kamala, who has lower approval ratings than certain types of Genital Warts.

Another alternative, that doesn't cling to the theory that every news agency is under the thumb of the DNC is this:

Objectively things are bad (and I'd argue that they are really bad). People are getting angry and as media agencies, they want to preserve, not only their credibility, but also their ratings. If (and really when) things get worse, they need to preserve what little credibility they have left. Maybe they just see which way the wind is blowing.
The news media already knows whose turn it is in the 2024 primaries.
 
America really is moving towards just choosing a leader who doesn't give a single fuck and looks cool doing it. Trump has the aesthetics but he still cared about unimportant opinions. The right leader will not care about those opinions at all. He won't even care about "his people" as such. It'll be all about building the movement and creating the roaring crowd. Trump lost the crowd when he pandered to it. He could have made us face all the dark truths behind the facade, but he didn't want to be considered "the bad guy" so he backed away from all that.
I've said it once, I'll say it again a dozen times - you keep turning up the heat on the pressure cooker of society while clamping the valves shut and you're going to get equalization. The longer it gets held back, the worse it will be when it happens - and it will the only question is when. On that day the person leading the crowd will make the SJW-delusion-Trump look like Mister Rogers in comparison. Everything is aligning like it has a dozen times over in history, the pattern is clear.
 
I've said it once, I'll say it again a dozen times - you keep turning up the heat on the pressure cooker of society while clamping the valves shut and you're going to get equalization. The longer it gets held back, the worse it will be when it happens - and it will the only question is when. On that day the person leading the crowd will make the SJW-delusion-Trump look like Mister Rogers in comparison. Everything is aligning like it has a dozen times over in history, the pattern is clear.
They think if they delay it long enough it won't fall on them to deal with the aftermath, the feckless cowards.
 
New Zealand is already littered with end times bunkers with full medical facilities, indoor hydroponics farms, desalinization, so much. It's expensive, but the people who are driving this rocket into the ground know what comes next and they're ready to Noah's Ark it into inheriting the Earth. They've thought about it a lot.
Any chance if the shit hits the fan that the Maori could be convinced to go back to their traditional dietary customs and pick the Western oligarch long pork from their teeth?
 
Funny thing is, Biden would have been the perfect president if a few things hadn't happened.

No, wait, hear me out.

He's obviously so far out of his depth as a statesman and an effective politician as a member of the Senate since 1972. On foreign policy he's been more consistently wrong than anyone else, and EVERYONE knows this.

As Vice President he was worse than a nobody. Constant gaffes and fuckups.

So, senility hits in and the powers that be decide that he's perfect.

He's malleable. He makes cat ladies, wine aunts, and soy-golems wet. He's the slightly befuddled grandfather everyone loves till he comes around while they're showering or wants to sniff their hair and play with their nipples, but that's a problem for the kids, not the people in power.

They figured DOCTOR Jill Biden would play ball.

They know Kamala knows how to play ball, or at least play with them.

All that had to happen is shit not spiral out of control.

He pays back Buffet by closing the pipeline. They figure gas goes up a buck or two, but nothing they can't handle.

They figure they'll just turn the handle and shut down Covid after getting the Vax-ID and punishing their enemies just a liiiiiiiitle bit longer.

They figure the economy will just roar right back to where it was when The Evil Orange One was in office, since there's no way they're not as smart as him. (Remember, the people in charge think they're the most clever, machiavellan, smartest, most ruthless people ever. Think about that. Maxine Waters thinks she's a genius)

Only...

Covid didn't shut right down. People had the balls to defy the government.

Jan 6 happened and put the fear of GOD into them. The previously arrogant sneering geniuses were on the floor crying and sobbing by some wandering Boomers after sneeringly telling everyone that riots and protests were the voice of the unheard.

Gas fucking spiked and people got mad.

Then, the punch to the gut. The Afghanistan fiasco. There was no hiding that.

See, Biden would have been fine in smooth sailing. Everyone would have been able to do back room deals without Biden throwing a wrench in the works. (Check out the raise the government gave themselves and their minions to show just how much contempt they hold you in) The money would have kept flowing, they would have been able to consolidate more power.

Gas prices.
Inflation.
People saying: "Fuck you, pay me more, faggot" and the businesses screaming.
Microchip shortages.
Afghanistan.
Red states openly defying the Fed. (HOW DARE THEY!)
Having to extend the rent moratorium repeatedly.
California fucking things up on the shipping.
Defund the police having the result they convinced themselves it wouldn't have.
Then... Ukraine. Their money fountain and laundromat.
Biden unable to put together coherent sentences.
Kamala being WORSE somehow than their worst nightmares.
Most of America going "Fuck Ukraine, who gives a shit if potato niggers kill each other!"

If times were good, gas was $2, inflation wasn't crushing everyone's balls, and they would have been able to keep wages depressed and 5 people for every job, Biden would have been PERFECT.

Instead, they need a statesman and have a drooling senile puppet with a harridan wife who won't play ball and a ball fondling fellatio queen as VP.

Worse, they have nobody to take over.

And even WORSE...

Everyone is starting to hate them. They can't deflect it onto Trump or the Republicans.

And they have no fall back people.

Biden was a great plan.

if the plan had matched reality in the slightest.
yeah Sleepy Joe was the jalopy that might have been good to get down the road to get some beers if there's no potholes or speedbumps
Since the Dollar is looking like it’s going to be as valuable as dirt soon, I’d like to ask my fellow Kiwis:
What’s a better investment, Gold or Silver?
I've heard there's issues with silver that there's a bunch of mountains in Mexico that are basically a fuckton of silver when the market hits [specific value].
 
Johnny, Jan 6th was a fed operation and the Congresscritters were warned and told to put on a show for the photographers. That was a false flag event designed to make future jackboot actions tolerable. "We had to do it because they were plotting to overthrow the government, just like Jan 6th!"

The rest is a combination of enriching themselves, intentionally destroying Middle America's wealth, and actual fuckups because they're not that competent. But the fuckups are the least of it. Shutting down the pipeline wasn't some dumb mistake made because nobody knew what they were doing. It was done on purpose to make it impossible for Americans to drive anywhere, which shuts down our ability to organize against the government.
Jan 6th was and wasn't. Yes, the whole thing was instigated by the Feds, but none of them were expecting an entire crowd to show up to make themselves heard and known. That is what has everyone terrified. That there's enough discontent out there all it takes is a little push and even little old flag waving grannies are going to show up and protest inside the very halls of power. The glow-op got out of hand, big time, and if the glowies can't reliably control the opposition anymore...
 
Johnny, Jan 6th was a fed operation and the Congresscritters were warned and told to put on a show for the photographers. That was a false flag event designed to make future jackboot actions tolerable. "We had to do it because they were plotting to overthrow the government, just like Jan 6th!"

The rest is a combination of enriching themselves, intentionally destroying Middle America's wealth, and actual fuckups because they're not that competent. But the fuckups are the least of it. Shutting down the pipeline wasn't some dumb mistake made because nobody knew what they were doing. It was done on purpose to make it impossible for Americans to drive anywhere, which shuts down our ability to organize against the government.
Jan 6th was and wasn't. Yes, the whole thing was instigated by the Feds, but none of them were expecting an entire crowd to show up to make themselves heard and known. That is what has everyone terrified. That there's enough discontent out there all it takes is a little push and even little old flag waving grannies are going to show up and protest inside the very halls of power. The glow-op got out of hand, big time, and if the glowies can't reliably control the opposition anymore...
Snek has it right. The fed job was to get it rolling but only to the steps of congress. Notice that all the footage of feds instigating stops rather quickly once they actually get in.

"But of course they did, mission succeeded."

Might be your reply.... but why? If the goal was to get them to go in, it had worked beyond their wildest expectations. Why not stir the pot more? These people were milling about, primed for something, anything, to push them. Why didn't the feds direct them somewhere relatively empty and rile them to destroy? It would have -cinched- their narrative and driven the moderates to them in droves.


But they didn't.

The reason is simple, it was never meant to go that far. The mission objective had succeeded, but too much and now they had people they assured would be safe suddenly within spitting distance of those who hated them.
 
This is 100% NOT what Trump will do, but it's good that people are trying to meme it into existence. We definitely need some form of that and if we meme it, we'll get it. It sounds cool as fuck so it'll grow.

America really is moving towards just choosing a leader who doesn't give a single fuck and looks cool doing it. Trump has the aesthetics but he still cared about unimportant opinions. The right leader will not care about those opinions at all. He won't even care about "his people" as such. It'll be all about building the movement and creating the roaring crowd. Trump lost the crowd when he pandered to it. He could have made us face all the dark truths behind the facade, but he didn't want to be considered "the bad guy" so he backed away from all that.

Our Dark MAGA leader won't give a fuck. He will name the jew and challenge them to strike him dead. He is coming. He is Dark MAGA.
That's why I postulate the next legit Hitler will be a Muslim. He needs to be nominally brown enough not to get accused of white supremacy, he needs to be opposed to feminism to rally disaffected men, he needs to not be afraid of being accused of anti-semitism, and he needs to be Right-wing enough to crack down on crime.
 
What did we get in return? Oh yeah, they're going to roll out the red carpet for China in a month or two. I sure am glad the adults are in charge now.

WSJ: U.S. Sends Patriot Missiles to Saudi Arabia, Fulfilling Urgent Request

WASHINGTON—The Biden administration has transferred a significant number of Patriot antimissile interceptors to Saudi Arabia within the past month, fulfilling Riyadh’s urgent request for a resupply amid sharp tensions in the relationship, senior U.S. officials said.

The transfers sought to ensure that Saudi Arabia is adequately supplied with the defensive munitions it needs to fend off drone and missile attacks by the Iran-backed Houthi rebels in neighboring Yemen, one of the officials said.

The Saudi military had been appealing to the U.S. since late last year for more Patriot interceptors-—missiles used to shoot down airborne weapons—warning that their supply was running dangerously low.

U.S.-Saudi relations have deteriorated since Mr. Biden took office over issues such as a White House decision to remove the Houthis from a list of designated terrorist groups, as well as Mr. Biden’s dealings with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the country’s de facto leader.

The longstanding Saudi request for more interceptors had been a point of contention between Washington and Riyadh, feeding Saudi officials’ displeasure over what they contend was a lack of U.S. support for their intervention in the Yemen civil war.

U.S. officials said the decision to send the interceptors had taken months because of the high demand for the weapons by other U.S. allies and the need to go through normal vetting—not because the White House was deliberately delaying the resupply.

The interceptors and other munitions sent to Saudi Arabia were taken from U.S. stockpiles elsewhere in the Middle East, one of the officials said.

The decision to go ahead with the arms transfer was part of an effort by the Biden administration to rebuild its relationship with Riyadh. Among other things, the U.S. hopes Saudi Arabia will pump more oil to mitigate soaring crude prices, officials said. But providing Patriot interceptors hasn’t resolved all the strains in the relationship.

Mr. Biden also publicly criticized Saudi Arabia over its protracted war in Yemen and cut off the flow of some weapons Riyadh could use to target Houthis. The president also reversed a move by his predecessor that put the Houthis on the U.S.’s official list of global terrorist groups, a move that Saudi leaders said had emboldened the Yemeni force and thwarted efforts to broker a cease-fire.

The latest attacks on Saudi Arabia came late Saturday and early Sunday when Houthi forces in Yemen fired missiles and drones at energy and water-desalination facilities run by Aramco, the Saudi state oil company.

The Houthis claimed responsibility for the attacks, which a spokesman said were in response to “the continued aggression and unjust siege of our people.”

Jake Sullivan, Mr. Biden’s national security adviser, condemned the Houthi attacks in a statement Sunday.

“The Houthis launch these terrorist attacks with enabling by Iran, which supplies them with missile and UAV components, training, and expertise,” he said, referring to unmanned aerial vehicles, or drones.

The missiles and drone attacks were fired at a water-desalination plant in Al-Shaqeeq; a distribution station in Jizan; a liquefied-natural-gas plant in Yanbu; a power station in Dhahran al Janub; and a gas facility in Khamis Mushait. Aramco said there were no casualties or impact on its supplies, while the Saudi-led military coalition backing the Yemeni government said the strikes damaged civilian vehicles and homes in the area.

In 2019, the Houthis claimed credit for coordinated strikes on oil facilities in Saudi Arabia’s oil-rich Eastern Province. The U.S. later blamed the attacks on Iran. But missile barrages and drone strikes from Yemen have continued steadily since.

Patriot antimissile batteries are only one of the weapons used by the Saudis and the United Arab Emirates to counter the Houthi attacks. Many of the slow-flying drones are shot down by fighter aircraft.

The rift between Mr. Biden and Saudi Arabia’s crown prince stretches back to the 2020 presidential election, when the Democratic candidate vowed to treat the kingdom as a “pariah” state after the U.S. implicated Saudi Arabia in the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi in 2018 in Istanbul.

After taking office, Mr. Biden released a U.S. intelligence report that concluded that Prince Mohammed had approved the plan to capture or kill Mr. Khashoggi, who had been an outspoken critic of the young Saudi ruler.

Prince Mohammed has denied knowing anything about the plot. People close to the crown prince were convicted by a Saudi court of taking part in murdering the journalist.

In an effort to repair the breach, the White House unsuccessfully tried to arrange calls between President Biden and Prince Mohammed in early February, The Wall Street Journal has reported.

The White House has said the story about the unsuccessful telephone calls was inaccurate.
 
This is 100% NOT what Trump will do, but it's good that people are trying to meme it into existence. We definitely need some form of that and if we meme it, we'll get it. It sounds cool as fuck so it'll grow.

America really is moving towards just choosing a leader who doesn't give a single fuck and looks cool doing it. Trump has the aesthetics but he still cared about unimportant opinions. The right leader will not care about those opinions at all. He won't even care about "his people" as such. It'll be all about building the movement and creating the roaring crowd. Trump lost the crowd when he pandered to it. He could have made us face all the dark truths behind the facade, but he didn't want to be considered "the bad guy" so he backed away from all that.

Our Dark MAGA leader won't give a fuck. He will name the jew and challenge them to strike him dead. He is coming. He is Dark MAGA.

I think you are way too optimistic. As optimistic as the people who raided people during pizzagate who thought their online comments would shut down child trafficking.

You need people, in certain positions. And the establishment will not allow that as long as they are able. It would take a bizarre movement outside the control of the MSM. And since 2016's anti-hate-speech policies, I don't see that happening. People in general simply no longer have the communication channels available to do that. Twitter, Reddit, Youtube, Facebook, and even 4chan, are now largely astroturfed. They are actively working against you, they know what you are trying to do.
 
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The reason is simple, it was never meant to go that far. The mission objective had succeeded, but too much and now they had people they assured would be safe suddenly within spitting distance of those who hated them.

The fatal arrogance that goes with every "pied piper" and "golem" strategy once more rears its head. If half the effort spent to manipulate and control people and systems were put to just making things work they probably wouldn't need to waste so much effort on gay psy-ops. They could probably still skim a healthy amount of the top, too.

It always makes me think about this one paper I read that tracked the profit margins of various criminal careers, and funnily enough the vast majority of them made under minimum wage when you calculated it all out. Seems simpler and safer to just do things the right way, yeah?
 
That's why I postulate the next legit Hitler will be a Muslim. He needs to be nominally brown enough not to get accused of white supremacy, he needs to be opposed to feminism to rally disaffected men, he needs to not be afraid of being accused of anti-semitism, and he needs to be Right-wing enough to crack down on crime.
I still think an outright Muslim will be too alien to gain any ground, Fox News boomers will never vote for one no matter how much the dissident rightoids cream themselves over having a Talichad as president. It's more likely to me that 'Dark MAGA' will be some flavor of ultratradcath Hispanic. Something like what Nick Fuentes sees himself as, but not as much of a raging closet homo.
 
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I still think an outright Muslim will be too alien to gain any ground, Fox News boomers will never vote for one no matter how much the dissident rightoids cream themselves over having a Talichad as president. It's more likely to me that 'Dark MAGA' will be some flavor of ultratrad Hispanic. Something like what Nick Fuentes sees himself as, but not as much of a raging closet homo.
Any kind of Hispanic is going to be soft on immigration or will be called out as such. He also doesn't have anything to cancel out AOC and the Catholic--and Christians in general--have been cucked completely. The Bible, as it's currently interpreted, doesn't have that much weight to it.

Course, I never said a Hispanic man couldn't convert to Islam to own the Pope.
 
If half the effort spent to manipulate and control people and systems were put to just making things work they probably wouldn't need to waste so much effort on gay psy-ops. They could probably still skim a healthy amount of the top, too.
Part of it is they're evil. Part of it is they worry that if they don't have total control, somehow they'll lose all control. Part of it is competition from outside the club. If they allowed anyone to run a successful business, why wouldn't patriotic business owners someday supplant them?

Basically they have the mindset of the guy who's worried his girlfriend is going to leave him, so he psychotically tracks everything she's doing and forbids her from talking to her friends if he's not there.
I think you are way too optimistic.
The alternative is being blackpilled and I go through those phases too. But realistically we're talking about years before anything "real" happens. People are waking up though. It's a long process and they work endlessly to stop it but they can only delay it. People know something isn't right. They're trying to engineer Putin as the focal point of all discontent but it's not going to work for the simple reason that it's not psychologically satisfying. There was no 9/11 to get us into this war. There's not the sense of unity of "all of us versus the enemy". We're being told to hate Putin but also hate each other, and Putin is an enemy of freedom but here in the freest country in the world we have to eat less meat and use less gas.

They've simply gone too far to hold it together much longer. They're putting insane amounts of effort into quashing all alternative narratives but the truth still leaks out to millions. A lot of what's going on in DC is creating legal fictions to excuse their actions. If they just went full tyranny it wouldn't make any difference since the people aren't ready to revolt, but still they go through the motions. This means their priorities are misplaced.

They've had a window of opportunity since Biden got elected that is rapidly closing. One major false flag event, blamed on MAGA people who were funded by Putin, and they would have all the justification they needed to go into instant East Germany mode. They didn't do this. Either they can't do it or they didn't think of it. Their biggest mistake was giving us the time to think about things.
It's more likely to me that 'Dark MAGA' will be some flavor of ultratrad Hispanic.
Yeah, that's a strong possibility. Napoleon wasn't French. I see them joining the white nationalists as "honoraries" and everyone gets to racemixing so that there's no hispanic identity left in America in 2 generations. It's the best thing for them. The smart ones will do it. Who wouldn't want to join the white race?
 
yeah Sleepy Joe was the jalopy that might have been good to get down the road to get some beers if there's no potholes or speedbumps

I've heard there's issues with silver that there's a bunch of mountains in Mexico that are basically a fuckton of silver when the market hits [specific value].
There are places like that for many types of metals and resources. Where you have very large deposits but it is difficult/expensive to extract them so the price will have to reach a certain point before it becomes viable.
In theory, these deposits can act as a ceiling for the price of a resource, but in practice they never do.

Developing these resources might require massive capital investments, such as building a powerplant at the site, building a rail-line to the site, building housing for the miners, building an airfield etc etc. So these resources are not automatically developed as soon as the price reaches the breakeven point, the price will have to go above that point and ALSO analysis should suggest suggest that the price will remain above the breakeven price for the next 10 years.
(No one wants to spend Xb$ to build the infrastructure for the mine just for the price of the resource to drop after 6 months to make it unviable,
just like no one probably wants to build a billion dollar pipeline right now just to have Biden outlaw it.)
 
I have no inroads to know if anyone is planning this, but if I were a Cabal member I'd be eyeing Biden's relations to Ukraine with some... interest right about now.

It's a nuclear option, a guaranteed win to whoever uses it first will win the cabal war.... but also set off some hellish repercussions.

It is simply put not only enough to impeach Biden so long as they stick to similar legal arguments as used on Trump, but also lets them beat the drum of being principled as they were willing to use it in their own. Would be bullshit, but would play very, very well with moderates and independents.

So triggering it gives whichever side pushed the button all the power they need to puppet Harris. They win.


But holy fuck the cost. Midterms could be salvaged in the senate, house still lost but narrower. But the coalition would publcally shatter. It would require a helluva circus. And would break every alliance and agreement they have within the party and govermental apparatus.


So all three are staring at that button.
 
I have no inroads to know if anyone is planning this, but if I were a Cabal member I'd be eyeing Biden's relations to Ukraine with some... interest right about now.

It's a nuclear option, a guaranteed win to whoever uses it first will win the cabal war.... but also set off some hellish repercussions.

It is simply put not only enough to impeach Biden so long as they stick to similar legal arguments as used on Trump, but also lets them beat the drum of being principled as they were willing to use it in their own. Would be bullshit, but would play very, very well with moderates and independents.

So triggering it gives whichever side pushed the button all the power they need to puppet Harris. They win.


But holy fuck the cost. Midterms could be salvaged in the senate, house still lost but narrower. But the coalition would publcally shatter. It would require a helluva circus. And would break every alliance and agreement they have within the party and govermental apparatus.


So all three are staring at that button.
And all have poor impulse control.

Dew it!
 
Has anyone mentioned the new 'Dark MAGA' meme that's starting to spread? It's not exactly mainstream but I think it's pretty hilarious a sentiment I haven't really seen anywhere outside of KF is getting actual memetic traction.
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This looks like a retarded HOI4 mod.
HOI4: Chronicles of the Dark MAGA
 
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